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01micko


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 05:28    Post subject:  FATSlacko
Subject description: Slacko with extras
 

FATSlacko

..is Slacko with extras
    Libreoffice
    Java Runtime Environment
    Mesa (aka xorg_high)
    QT Libraries
    VLC
    Foxit Reader
    Samba with kerberos support
    Inetd daemon for Samba documentation


Get it here 325 MB

Checksum <-- ae02cfe235696f576e1884f1e59620a0


devx

Checksum <-- 6b71839521e439ba7e07a8b38f36ff84

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FIXES

- PPM fix applies to FATSlacko too.
- Mesa fix for glx, FATSlacko only
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FATSlacko is NOT an official product but a puplet. It is directly based on the upcoming Slacko-5.3.3. It is also the PAE version which will see your large RAM and as such is recommended for higher end machines.

Minimum system requirements <-- Pentium III 1 GHz processor, 768 MB RAM.

Recommended <-- 1.5 GHz processor, 1 GB RAM


Technical

The main sfs is xz compressed as well as having the extra compression of the '-Xbcj x86' option of mksquashfs to save another 10 to 15 MB off the iso size at a cost of decompression speed.

It is built entirely from woof, not a remaster, however you could achieve near identical results with the Slacko updated remaster tool.

Removed
    Abiword
    Gnumeric
    libgsf
    Epdfview


Many thanks to pemasu for his java pet and playdayz for the Libreoffice integration files, shinobar for many contributions, zigbert for his many contributions, jemimah for the icon theme, Barry for the Puppy/Woof concept and all testers and developers who had the remotest input to Slacko.

If you have a slightly older machine, you are better off waiting for the official Slacko-533 release which will be available in standard and PAE versions, hopefully Friday. All the packages are available for Slacko from the repo and most (soon all) are pets and sfs.

Enjoy!
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 07:26    Post subject: FATSlacko  

Running from the live dvd with a save file.

Mon 30 Apr 2012 Operating System:Slacko Puppy-5.3.3x Linux 3.1.10-slacko_paeA
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280[Radeon 9200](rev 01)
oem: ATI RADEON 9200

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string:Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5961)20090101AGP 8x x86/MMX/SSE2TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.10.2

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Core 0: 2800 1: 2800 MHz

# glxgears
7886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1577.193 FPS
7912 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1582.270 FPS
7893 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1578.529 FPS

On first boot I exited to the prompt and ran xorgwizard-probe and
chose the correct resolution,then xwin to get back to the desktop,
glxgears worked properly then.

Working well so far.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 10:23    Post subject: FATSlacko  

Running from live dvd with savefile.

Mon 30 Apr 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.3x Linux3.1.10-slacko_paeA
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)
oem: NVIDIA product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: ION/integrated/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.40

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330
Core 0: 1599 1: 1599 2: 1599 3: 1599 MHz

# glxgears
9599 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1919.615 FPS
9598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1919.595 FPS
9645 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1928.960 FPS

05:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe

I tried to compile smplayer 0.8.0 and smtube 1.1 but they wouldn't
compile, pets of them that I made in racy 5.3 worked.

EDIT: I installed kdegames from ppm and I expected that would break
vlc, it didn't but it did break smplayer and smtube so I took another
stab at compiling the source (after removing the broken pets in ppm)
and this time it compiled okay. I made new pets and installed them,
smplayer is back in business using qt 470 Smile
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Jim1911

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Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 11:48    Post subject:  FATSlacko  

Hi mick,

Frugal installation on an ext4 partition. Updated a 4fs save file from 5.3.2.9p. Used your fine nouveau_unload and then installed the latest Nvidia driver. Next using PPM, installed Bibletime-2.9.1s (Thank you for providing Bibletime).

Everything appears to be fast and rock solid at least on my desktop computer. I have also installed some favorite Windows programs, Bible Analyzer, e-Sword, and theWord.

Cheers, Very Happy
Jim
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 12:26    Post subject:  

WOW! This is one of the most advanced 32bit PUPs....ever!

With this distro's implementation, once booted, there is little to no need add anything. This implementation does everything we have used or expected in a Microsoft/Apple/AIX/HPUX/top5-LInux distros.

And, all seemingly is surviving over a save-system reboot! This is especially important to those of us who use Live media RAM based system operations.

90+% of new users of this distro will have little need for additional subsystem or program installation to address 95% of most home-office needs.

Everything is included! This is all-inclusive and is the most complete 32bit distro ever assembled in Puppyland. .... ever!

THANK YOU 01MICKO for such a forward-thinking solution for those of us, here, in Puppyland who still use 32bit PCs!

P.S. Below I am showing resultant FirstRUN, JAVA (from terminal), and SAMBA operations and a Hardinfo report of system with 4 Seamonkey Windows open, each with 3-5 tabs on a LAPTOP 32bit system. This is very, very responsive!

Hope the reports are helpful
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 15:12    Post subject:  Laptop installation  

Working great on my laptop using Mesa video driver! Very Happy Wifi connection was established using Frisbee, SNS did not work. Also, was able to connect to my wifi default printer, HP Officejet 6500, so that problem has been corrected.

This is an awesome distribution, fast and rock solid.

Thanks again for the updated Bibletime.

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 16:56    Post subject: JAVA  

JAVA, as reported earlier, is working great from a terminal.

As well, I have installed
  • AngryIP (DPUP5520)
  • muCommander (Pemasu)
These 2 JAVA apps from Puppy developers are working as expected in SLACKO. And, AngryIP is still much faster than anything else we have seen in Puppyland for device discovery on the LAN not to mention its ease of use.

These 2 apps PLUS FATSlacko complete everything I would ever need managing everything on any LAN from Puppy's desktop.

Here to help
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l2ulinux


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 19:44    Post subject: FATSlacko
Subject description: Don't get no better
 

I have not given Slacko the credit it has earned.
I tried it when it first came out and I can't say I disliked but was not crazy about it. The other day I download the 5.3.2.8 release and my whole outlook changed and when I seen the FATSlacko this morning i just had to try it.
No problem so far been up and running about 6 1/2 hours on a usb install.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 00:11    Post subject: FATSlacko
Subject description: Memory
 

Computer
Summary
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz
Memory 2048MB (709MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 30 Apr 2012 11:05:33 PM CDT


Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.1.10-slacko_paeA (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Mar 13 16:04:32 EST 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Unknown distribution
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc11644
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
Misc
Uptime 4 hours, 54 minutes
Load Average 0.43, 0.25, 0.21


This is download streaming music and checking around the net also a few games of xpat2 during this time. A message would come up telling it was saving to the savefile.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 00:31    Post subject: Re: FATSlacko
Subject description: Memory
 

l2ulinux wrote:

This is download streaming music and checking around the net also a few games of xpat2 during this time. A message would come up telling it was saving to the savefile.


Yes, normal activity, but be aware with large activity in a usb install RAM can fill up quickly and cause a RAM crash, it's the case with any usb install.

I see you were missing deps by directly downloading Bible time, should have checked PPM Wink . QT is already there, you just need to find sword (ibiblio) and clucene (type it in PPM search box after you click the settings button at top left, hover and you see "configure package manager". enable salix, slackware and slacky checkboxes in the config window, close PPM and restart PPM)

HTH

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 01:26    Post subject: FATSlacko
Subject description: Which is better
 

I want to know which is better?

Billtoo wrote: Running from live dvd with savefile.
Jim1911 wrote: Frugal installation on an ext4 partition.
l2ulinux wrote: Install to USB drive

Want to learn best way.
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Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 03:00    Post subject:  

Quote:
Want to learn best way.


There is only what is best for you. Smile

I know from what is being said that FatSlacko is worth its weight in OS Gold . . . Cool
For now I am sticking with the release candidate of Slacko
as I am familiar with it and have it set up to support my needs.

BarryK at the moment is using Lucid
Others are using [insert fav Puppy]
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyVersionIndex

Thanks Mick
Look forward to getting Fat (so to speak) in the future Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 05:30    Post subject:
Subject description: FATFrugal fine, but Libre stalls on my FATFull? Conflict with my pets!?
 

G'day,

I installed a Full FATSlacko, using my Frugal FATSlacko for the Universal Installer and its /home directory as the source of the FULL installation files. To a wiped partition of 2.7GB of which I now see about 730MB free (after also adding my usual pets - wine+programs is pretty big).

Everything looked OK.

My normal pets installed and ran well as far as I went (e.g. wine with a few programs, gimp, pwidgets, some games and extra file managers, even the temp-icon pet).

But nothing happens with LibreOffice. Running from a console reported:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeExce

Any ideas as to my problem?

Thanks,
David S.

(PS: just found vlc is not running in the FATFull but did in the FATFrugal.)

PPS: Just tried fresh FATFull install from my FATFrugal but with none of my extra pets installed. Just installed over the wiped earlier troubled FATFull.
With nothing added, took about 1200MB leaving 1500MB for stuff I can't run from my mounted-at-boot data partition.

LibreOffice is now GOOD (happily takes my A4 based templates as with past LibreOffices)
VLC is also running, but I can't work out how to set up our local DVB channels (I have a channels.conf file) so I can pick which channel to watch on my TV card. Seems only to want a playlist?

Anyway, it looks like one of my pets was upsetting LibreOffice & VLC, so it was not a problem in FATSlacko Full installs as such. I'll see if I can work out which pet by trial and failure.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 06:18    Post subject:  

Hi David,

It may be a decompression issue, will check, but that partition does seem small for a full install.

This thing is pretty huge.. it would be well over 400M if I had have used normal gz compression expanding to well and truly over 1GB.. I haven't done any calculations on that. I know working with large stuff and decompressing you seem to need a bit of room to move, probably as much as the install will take and then some.

Maybe try again, see if it is reproducible. Best I can offer atm.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 08:37    Post subject:  

G'day 01micko,

Thanks for the prompt feedback to my above post about the Full-from-Frugal install & LibreOffice not running.

After the grandkids went home after dinner tonight, I wiped the Full partition and re-installed the Full back to the same 2.7GB partition, but did not install my extra pets.

Libre Office is now fine Smile , and VLC also runs Smile .

So I need to see which of my personal pets is causing the problem and work out what to do.

Thanks again,

David S.
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