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Marv


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 22:51    Post subject: Multiple save files  
Geoffrey wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:

I just tried adding another save as a backup by copying and renaming the save file which is located in the /mnt/home/saluki.
When I reboot it finds both save files and gives me the option to load:
0 none
1 lukisave.4fs
2 lukisave-bak.4fs

If I select either 1 or 2 neither are loaded, so it clean boots, this on a usb install, so it appears to have a problem

Just thought I'd ask if anyone else is have a similar problem with multiple save files


Repeated above procedure, this time on a usb frugal install of 021 (fat32 part, syslinux, .2fs save files ). No problem switching between save files here either.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 23:59    Post subject: Re: Multiple save files  
Marv wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:

I just tried adding another save as a backup by copying and renaming the save file which is located in the /mnt/home/saluki.
When I reboot it finds both save files and gives me the option to load:
0 none
1 lukisave.4fs
2 lukisave-bak.4fs

If I select either 1 or 2 neither are loaded, so it clean boots, this on a usb install, so it appears to have a problem

Just thought I'd ask if anyone else is have a similar problem with multiple save files


Repeated above procedure, this time on a usb frugal install of 021 (fat32 part, syslinux, .2fs save files ). No problem switching between save files here either.


Thanks for testing that Marv, I'll have to try it on another usb stick, I have been using the same one only updating the required files for the newer versions of Saluki.

I don't use CD's I extract the files from the ISO, as long as the usb is bootable it should work every time,
the only difference from yours I see is that mine are .4fs save files, I wonder if that might have something to do with it?

Mean while back at the ranch...........

Well I've tried everything, no success, I burnt the ISO to dvd booted from it and then created a USB,
it booted made a save file rebooted works ok, copied the save and renamed, reboot see's the two saves but won't load either one,
I tried with 2fs and 4fs save files, tried this on two different usb sticks a verbatim 4gig and a imation 2gig no joy oh! the USB's are formated fat32, any idea's?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 05:36    Post subject: Re: Multiple save files  
Geoffrey wrote:

If I select either 1 or 2 neither are loaded, so it clean boots, this on a usb install, so it appears to have a problem

If you have time I would probably suggest trying the same process with Racy 5.2.2 and/or Racy 5.3 as they are quite similar to Saluki in many ways.
I think it would be a good comparison to see if this is a bug or not.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 06:06    Post subject: Bug in Gnumeric  
Sorry, first posted in wrong place.


Hi folks,
in Saluki there is a bug in gnumeric. When you cut certain cells and want to paste it in another worksheet the clipboard is empty, but the selected cells in the source worksheet are also gone. They can't be restored with undo.
I have seen this bug in other puppies ( lucid 520 with gnumeric 1.10.12 ), but it doesn't happen in lucid 528 with gnumeric 1.10.13).
Otherwise: Saluki is great, especially the custom puplet builder.
Regards:

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 06:40    Post subject: proposals  
first of all: thank you for xfce-verve

trying to read up, i doubt its is the best time to post some requests or proposals...
but since the work on saluki is astonishing and im full of admiring and thank you, i do:

a necessary tool, ready for the repos:
- set-time-for-puppies http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=12690
(couldnt change it per date command, which im used to)

a mediaplayer, which is rather unique (doesnt need connect to lastfm) and is very convenient (with large music libraries)
- quodlibet exfalso

found a minimalist playlist-player which works, is maybe ready for repos and is no dependency-h*ll
- xhippo http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=306017#306017

2 games which may be "suitable", or not
- urquanmasters
- planeshift[/url]
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 08:22    Post subject: Multiple save files  
Quote:
Well I've tried everything, no success, I burnt the ISO to dvd booted from it and then created a USB,
it booted made a save file rebooted works ok, copied the save and renamed, reboot see's the two saves but won't load either one,
I tried with 2fs and 4fs save files, tried this on two different usb sticks a verbatim 4gig and a imation 2gig no joy oh! the USB's are formated fat32, any idea's?


Geoffrey,

This is the kind of nit that usually bedevils me! As you do, I just extract files needed from the iso..a marvelous luxury. All of my cards and sticks are Transcend. Shouldn't matter at all. Try giving the first save file a parameter also, -xxx -021 or so. Again, shouldn't matter unless there is some odd search bug in the script. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 08:33    Post subject:  
The mystery of the save files solved, it seems that the C-Media USB Headphone Set I have, which plugged in permanently into a rear usb port is the cause of the problem,
removing it allows the save files to load, this is most likely the cause of my failed save file upgrades also, so Saluki is in the clear Very Happy

Code:
C-Media USB Headphone Set
Vendor       0xd8c
Product ID 0xc
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 11:42    Post subject:  
harroxelas wrote:
Hi all,

Saluki is fantastic! It's impressive how such a beautiful system can be so fast and responsive. Being my favourite WM, I've been looking forward to try a "xfced" puppy.

I do have a question though:

I installed Saluki 021 on a usb stick, chose the "copy to ram" option and chose to save sessions only on shutdown (using PupSaveConfig). I tried but I couldn't unmount the usb stick after the system has loaded. Is it possible to unmount the usb stick after the system has loaded?

Congratulations on this awesome work.

Thanks in advance.


NO !

Not yet implemented ...

A svefile of 512 MB would require 1GB RAM at least for 2x~125MB puppy_main.sfs plus devx,zdrv,(adrv),... to be loaded into RAM .

I think it would be possible to alter the initrd.gz to make such possibility real like lets say if RAM>=2GB then cp_savefile2ram=yes ...

For now the possibility to load to ram to be able to unmount the host-partition/drive is only given for the puppy_main.sfs without any extras .

sfs_load_on_the_fly might be able to merge/load an existing savefile to ram if booted with pfix=ram .. ?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 13:52    Post subject:  
Karl, thanks for the response, it clarified things for me. Since you can unmount the host partition on "usual puppy" (using lucid puppy) I thought I could do the same on Saluki, that's why I asked.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 14:39    Post subject:  
harroxelas wrote:
Karl, thanks for the response, it clarified things for me. Since you can unmount the host partition on "usual puppy" (using lucid puppy) I thought I could do the same on Saluki, that's why I asked.

BIG ? Question
Of course you should be able to unmount the host partition (at least manually) .

I am not sure if you confuse first boot or pfix=ram with something else : You cannot unmount the hostpartition your save file is on , but of course you can and disable pup_event_frontend_d save interval and such experiments i have read to shutdown not to save to save-file . I think it is theoretical possible .
Have no time and space to run every Puppy . Lupu-511 works fine for me (no ntfs problems) and i came here for pemasu's/jemimah's tip on the kernel hibernation possibility . Crazy things go on linux , but the lupu guys may have provided some codes to do such as you describe (still can't believe it) ..
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 17:30    Post subject: Updated Broadcom WL driver  
Updated Broadcom wl driver v5.100.82.112 for Saluki is now included in an All-In-One pet that supports many kernels

Updates:
- creates wlan% instead of eth%
- has latest rerwin initialisation logic

Background and pet download

Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 18:13    Post subject:  
Karl Godt wrote:
harroxelas wrote:
Karl, thanks for the response, it clarified things for me. Since you can unmount the host partition on "usual puppy" (using lucid puppy) I thought I could do the same on Saluki, that's why I asked.

BIG ? Question
Of course you should be able to unmount the host partition (at least manually) .

I am not sure if you confuse first boot or pfix=ram with something else : You cannot unmount the hostpartition your save file is on , but of course you can and disable pup_event_frontend_d save interval and such experiments i have read to shutdown not to save to save-file . I think it is theoretical possible .
Have no time and space to run every Puppy . Lupu-511 works fine for me (no ntfs problems) and i came here for pemasu's/jemimah's tip on the kernel hibernation possibility . Crazy things go on linux , but the lupu guys may have provided some codes to do such as you describe (still can't believe it) ..


Fluppy actually had the init script changes to enable save file RAMbooting. I didn't get the impression it was terribly popular though. Plus it was a bit finicky and always tricky to ensure the save file was cleanly copied back to disk on shutdown.

I think it is better to remaster saluki how you want it, then run without a save file.

The init script also has this code which I have never tested.

Code:
#101127 pakt: code adapted from bchafy's Xin
#his description: "A precfg area for faster re-mastering, no need to regenerate a .SFS
#every time you want to change the core, and no need for a hard drive to store customizations"
if [ -d $PUPSFSDEVMNTPT/precfg ];then
 echo -n "Overlaying preconfig files..." > /dev/console
 SRC="$PUPSFSDEVMNTPT"/precfg
 DEST="/pup_new"
 cd $SRC
 for i in `find . -not -type d -print`; do
  BASEFILE="$i"
  SRCFILE="$SRC/$BASEFILE"
  DESTFILE="$DEST/$BASEFILE"
  DESTDIR=`dirname $DESTFILE`
  MASK="777"
  if test -f "$DESTFILE"; then
   MASK=`stat -c %a $DESTFILE`
  fi
  mkdir -p $DESTDIR
  cp -f $SRCFILE $DESTFILE
  chmod $MASK $DESTFILE
 done
 check_status 0
fi
#END PRECONFIG STEP


Technically, if you have a linux filesystem on your boot media, you could possibly extract your save file to /precfg and it will all load to ram. But it wouldn't save back to /precfg on shutdown anyway, so you might as well just remaster.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 18:19    Post subject: Re: proposals  
canin wrote:
first of all: thank you for xfce-verve

trying to read up, i doubt its is the best time to post some requests or proposals...
but since the work on saluki is astonishing and im full of admiring and thank you, i do:

a necessary tool, ready for the repos:
- set-time-for-puppies http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=12690
(couldnt change it per date command, which im used to)

a mediaplayer, which is rather unique (doesnt need connect to lastfm) and is very convenient (with large music libraries)
- quodlibet exfalso

found a minimalist playlist-player which works, is maybe ready for repos and is no dependency-h*ll
- xhippo http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=306017#306017

2 games which may be "suitable", or not
- urquanmasters
- planeshift[/url]


Time setting is in the System section of the control panel.

I won't have time for requests this week but probably next week.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 18:23    Post subject: Re: Updated Broadcom WL driver  
peebee wrote:
Updated Broadcom wl driver v5.100.82.112 for Saluki

Updates:
- creates wlan% instead of eth%
- has latest rerwin initialisation logic

Background

Cheers


Thanks. Added to the repo.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 May 2012, 00:30    Post subject: updated sfs_load-1.9.3  
Small improvement from 1.9.2:
#1 Mar 2012 v1.9.3: fix was clean up whiteout do not see pup_z, incleased RESERVHDD/RAM, version info, jwm -reload without flicker (01micko)
Jemimah's refined messages are in the English NLS Wink in the main PET to keep the compatibility with old langpacks.
/usr/sbin/extrasfsfind now saluki compatible.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354
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