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shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

Hello!

You know? I thought this issue was easy to fix but it seems to be hard. So I will explain it more detailed:

I have a dell latitude c600 and a TV lg plasma 50pt250r. Also I purchase a VGA cable (RGB) and a S-video cable (TV has these ports). So It would be fantastic to use this TV like the monitor (for example to watch videos)

I had installed on the laptop Windows XP SP2, Lucid Puppy Linux 528 (last version 005), Slacko Puppy Linux 531

Also I installed the Graphic Card Driver (Slickpet test the graphic card and suggest the best driver: "mesa" or "xorg-high"). I installed mesa on Slacko and Xorg-high on Lucid. And I installed lxrandr too.

First I do all the wired connections between tv and laptop then I turned them on, then appears GRUB. When I press a few times FN + F8 then GRUB can be displayed only on TV.

- If I chose Windows XP Sp2, I could see the desktop only on TV (everything else was ok)

- If I choose Lucid or Slacko, I can see the desktop on TV only if Xorgwizard has VESA, I mean go to prompt / xorgwizard / vesa / probing video hardware - automatic probing of your monitor was unsuccessfully / then I have to choose between some generic (LCD, CRT,...): for example "C h31.5-48.5v40-70 LCD Panel 1024x768" / then I choose again 1024x768x24 / TEST / TEST X NOW / and the summary says "1024x768 pixels, 48,56 Khz Horizontal Syn frequency, 61,00 hz Vertical refresh frequency, driver VESA" / finally press FINISHED / write xwin / then appears the desktop. This way when I play a video for example with VLC media player and default configuration the full screen mode is wrong there is some pauses, lines, etc. sometimes in normal mode too)

- If I choose Lucid or Slacko, I can't see the desktop on TV if Xorgwizard has xorg (again the desktop is displayed on the laptop). I mean go to xorgwizard / xorg / probing video hardware - automatic probing of your monitor was unsuccessfully / then I have to choose between some generic (LCD, CRT,...): for example it's ok if I choose "C h31.5-48.5v40-70 LCD Panel 1024x768" / then I choose again 1024x768x24 / TEST / TEST X NOW / and the summary says "1024x768 pixels, 48,36 Khz Horizontal Syn frequency, 60,00 hz Vertical refresh frequency, driver r128" / finally press FINISHED / write xwin / then appears the desktop (only on laptop). This way when I play a video for example with VLC media player and default configuration the full screen mode is perfect (there isn't any kind of error)

- If I use the S-video cable the quality is the worst, so I only use VGA cable (RGB)

When Lucid Puppy Linux use vesa driver:

- Quickpet / File / Report Video / and show:

Video report: Lucid version 528
Chip description:
oem: Ati Mobile M3
Driver used by Xorg:
vesa
Video Mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

- Quickpet / Driver / Test Graphic Card / and says "...the best addon driver is Xorg-High (for Lucid) and mesa (for Slacko). A few days ago I installed Xorg-High, but there is the same problem.

When Slacko Puppy Linux use vesa driver, the command "lspci -nn" shows:

# lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge [8086:7190] (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge [8086:7191] (rev 03)
00:03.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller [104c:ac51]
00:03.1 CardBus bridge [0607]: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller [104c:ac51]
00:07.0 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA [8086:7110] (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE [8086:7111] (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB [8086:7112] (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI [8086:7113] (rev 03)
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator [125d:1998] (rev 10)
00:10.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Actiontec Electronics Inc Mini-PCI bridge [1668:0100] (rev 11)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x [1002:4c46] (rev 02)
08:04.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 [8086:1229] (rev 0 Cool

08:08.0 Communication controller [0780]: Agere Systems WinModem 56k [11c1:0448] (rev 01)
#

When I go to prompt / xorgwizard / appears to choose "Xorg", "Choose", "vesa" ("...for the correct driver..."). Then I select "choose" / "r128 ATI", but again appears 3 options "Xorg", "Choose", "vesa" ("...for the correct driver..."), but there should appear to select the monitor... I can repeat the procedure, but there is the same problem (obviously I can select "vesa" but later there is no option to select "r128" driver, so in the end the driver will be "vesa"

When I go to prompt / xorgwizard / vesa / and I choose the option "Select If you know monitor frequency specs" by default appears: 31.5-48.5 KHz (Horizontal syn frequency), 56-72 Hz (vertical refresh frequency), then I change the ranges for example to 48.2-48.3; 59-60 / select 1024x768x24 / TEST / but the final values for vesa always are: 48.56 KHz, 61.00 Hz

When I go to prompt / xorgwizard / xorg / "Select If you know monitor frequency specs" / the ranges can't be changed as I explained previously.

QUESTIONS:

- Can anybody tell me why this TV can't show the desktop if Xorgwizard has xorg-r128 (by default)? I guess It's not a problem with drivers or resolution or freshrate, because the desktop can be displayed on TV if xorgwizard has the generic driver vesa.

- How could I fix this problem? I hope the descriptions are enough and somebody knows how to fix this issue!

Thanks a lot for reading this long post! Bye

FeodorF · Joined: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 70 Location: Heidelberg, Germany

Hi!

How about going through the 'Technical Specifications: Dell™ Latitude™ C600/C500 User's Guide' at:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latc600/en/ug/specs.htm#video

Cheers!

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

hi FeodorF!

Those tables show the best resolution, refresh, etc. to use under MS Windows. Anyway as I told I can't change the refresh values.

bye

bigpup · Posted: Fri 04 May 2012, 12:16 Post subject:

From the Dell manual:

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

hi bigpup!

Many many times I did it. I have been following the instructions but this issue can't be solved (as I described it). That's the reason I have done this new post, to find someone who can help me.

bye

bigpup · Posted: Fri 04 May 2012, 13:01 Post subject:

From r128 support documents.

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

Maybe, maybe not!.

There must be people who bought this kind of tv... Anyway I will be searching more info by myself.

postfs1 · Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 831

1)http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=459013#459013

Windows program can give an information about monitor's characteristics, which are needful for "Xorg.conf".

2)Perhaps: "monitor-edid" w/o additional options can show the name of DISPLAY.

[2.1]"Quirky-1.40 OS"(booting from the CD): When the "xorgwizard" program has appeared after other programs, the "Xorg" button is my choice over there, and then "Probe", and then "OK", and then "EXIT".
So that, i don't have a configuration file for X-system as in those cases where i typed the "pfix=nox" option.

[2.2]Correct installation of "monitor-edid" is important.

[2.3]After correct installation "monitor-edid" will show something.

3)Perhaps: "ddcprobe" w/o additional options can give info about VIDEOCARD.

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

hi postfs1!

I don't have windows xp anymore. So I cant use the SIW program

I can't find "monitor-edid"

Also you say ddcprobe gives info about videocard, but Is It not enough the info I described about video card?

thanks anyway

postfs1 · Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 831

4)Another "Linux OS"("Ubuntu" or "Fedora" or another) with the similar kernel: Live-CD with "Gnome" or Live-CD with "KDE", or "Parted Magic", or "GParted", what perhaps will bring the "Xorg.conf" file to you.

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

hi postfs1!

Do you think I can Install Ubuntu or Fedora or Slackware on Dell Latitude C600 (850 MHz, 384 MB Ram, 8 MB Video, 60 GB Hard Drive?

Thanks! bye

Semme · Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 2028 Location: World_Hub

Shoutcrown- the pkg to which Postfs1 refers is read-edid. ddcprobe is pkg'd with xresprobe- both in PPM..

postfs1 · Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 831

In the beginning i would have tried to use "Parted Magic", then "GParted", and then "Ubuntu", where there is a lightweight window manager which is available through "apt-get" and yet there is a display settings wizard(i assume that there is such a thing for "Gnome" or "KDE").

I still store the two first CD-discs which are from the set of disks for installation of DVD-version of "Fedora-9". I can install "Fedora-9" just for getting the "yum" program, but in such a case i have to have an earlier created text file with information for "yum" package manager and an earlier created text file with commands which will give me an internet.

Downloading and installation eat lots of time. Maybe display settings wizard from "Parted Magic" or "GParted" will help.

Oh, by the way, in your case the most best operating system is "Linux Muzzy". Muzzy likes to eat clocks. It was a joke.

shoutcrown · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 77

hello!

Semme · Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 2028 Location: World_Hub

5.28? Swap Wary with 5 official..