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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 15:25    Post subject:  Allwinner A10 chip + A13  

There's a good description of the Allwinner A10 chip
and the newly announced A13 chip HERE

The A10 chip is the one that Barry Kauler is so excited about.

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A10 is around $7 for 5 numbers purchase and around $12-14 for smaller quantities.

In April 2012 Allwinner released the A13 strip down version of A10 which is same
but without SATA interface and HDMI, targeting purely the Tablet market.
The new chip is $5 if you by any chance decide to buy one million chips
from Allwinner and can be purchased for $10 in smaller quantities.]
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 15:35    Post subject:  

Here's a circuit diagram of the A13.

It doesn't support HDMI though

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 16:21    Post subject:  

Not a circuit diagram Wink that's a functional block diagram, which is different -- it tells you what it does, but not how (no individual components).

What display output *does* it have...?

Also, HDMI is kinda useless to a lotta folks (me included) since everything I have is VGA -- my TV's composite/component inputs don't work, even!

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 17:06    Post subject:  



A10 has vga

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 11:46    Post subject:  

Olimex.com has already put together a preliminary board
using the A13. It has VGA output and quite inexpensive.
http://www.olimex.com/dev/


Here's a pic

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 15:40    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
Also, HDMI is kinda useless to a lotta folks (me included) since everything I have is VGA -- my TV's composite/component inputs don't work, even!

Apparently you can go via a PC running VNC... (see last post here)

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PostPosted: Fri 04 May 2012, 08:31    Post subject:  


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PostPosted: Sat 05 May 2012, 23:49    Post subject:  


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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 13:19    Post subject: laptop using A10  

http://www.shanzhaiben.com/60/n-6060.html
in chinese
Here are pictures of the first A10 processor notebook developed for
the consumer market. Apparently it does not have a hard drive!!
It looks like it was designed with the
cheapest PC components that are available in China.
10.1-inch screen
1024x600 512MB/4GB,
It runs Google Android 4.0 and supports HD video playback,
WiFi, and Ethernet connections.
The mini-laptop has an SD card slot, 3 USB ports, audio jacks,
and offers up to 5 hours of battery life.


The price is 500 yuan (about $80US) . This is presumably the
price that a big department store in the US could buy it.

A factory worker in China can make
1000 to 2000 yuan a month so this is very affordable.



http://www.shanzhaiben.com/60/n-6060.html

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.... Following this product is very popular
in the domestic low-end flat-panel A10 processor, based on the Cortex A8
architecture, clocked at 1.1GHz, 512M memory, built-in 4G memory,
using the 10.1-inch 1024 x 600 LCD screen. To run Android4.0.3 system,
the wealth of Android apps can be installed to support 2160P HD video
playback, can be relatively smooth to play online video, with the front
camera for video calls, the body is equipped with three USB ports,
you can easily connect a variety of outside set, RJ45 Ethernet port,
3.5mm audio input and output, a standard SD card slot, battery life
of 4-5 hours.:


Edit: liliputing has an article in English about this laptop

http://liliputing.com/2012/05/10-inch-netbook-with-allwinner-a10-cpu-android-4-0-hits-china.html

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 16:04    Post subject: A10 notebook in April  

Charbax discovered an A10 notebook in April.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/16/sunlike-umpc-1021-85-usd-allwinner-a10-based-10-2-android-4-0-netbook/

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 16:09    Post subject: Arm profits surging  

ARM quarterly profits up 45% year/year
January 31, 2012
ARM just published their Q4 2011 numbers:

Q4 2011 – Financial Summary
------------------ Q4 2011 Q4 2010
Revenue ($m) 217.0 179.6
Revenue (£m) 137.8 113.9

Profit before tax (£m) 69.0 47.6 45% increase
Earnings per share (pence) 3.71 2.90 28% increase

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PostPosted: Tue 22 May 2012, 21:24    Post subject: another Allwinner A10 mini computer  

The MK802 is slightly larger than a thumbdrive and has a microSD card slot to add to its built-in 4GB flash storage. Wi-Fi is also supported.
A Chinese-made computer that's slightly larger than a typical thumbdrive can now be purchased online for just $74.

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/563764893-New-released-Android4-0-IPTV-google-tv-smart-android-box-allwinner-A10-Model-MK802-Notice-just-full retail plus shipping.html
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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 13:03    Post subject:  

Here's an article on the Chinese government's plans to back a processor...

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/127791-china-plans-national-unified-cpu-architecture
Quote:
According to reports from various industry sources, the Chinese
government has begun the process of picking a national computer chip
instruction set architecture (ISA). This ISA would have to be used for any
projects backed with government money China has a long history
with MIPS and Alpha.

There are at least five existing ISAs on the table for consideration —
MIPS, Alpha, ARM, Power, and the homegrown UPU


According to EE Times, there are some 34 ARM licensees in China, but at
$5 million for a single Cortex-A9 core license, it’s unlikely that ARM will be
China’s choice. The Power ISA is cheaper, but lacks the software
ecosystems that ARM and MIPS enjoy. ShenWei/Alpha is also a possibility,
but again it cannot compete with MIPS’ installed base.


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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 15:22    Post subject:  

APC is using a less powerful chip by VIA ---> WM8750
It uses Android 2.3
$49
It needs a special power adaptor.
One of the other amazing aspects of this system is that at load it only
consumes 13.5 watts of power and hardly anything at idle coming in at
just 4 watts. The system will ship with just a small 15 watt external power
supply.
http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/via-launch-a-49-android-pc-20120522/


WonderMedia is a fabless SoC company headquartered in Taipei, Taiwan.
[1] It is a subsidiarity of VIA Technologies.[2] It is notable for creating the
low cost processors used in a large number of Chinese Android devices.
The SoC designs are collectively called the WonderMedia PRIZM platform
and are based on the reference implementations provided by ARM.[3]

Products

Wonder Media System on Chips
Model ARM Core ARM Architecture CPU Freq Graphics
WM8505[4] ARM926EJ-S ARMv5 300Mhz
WM8650[5] ARM926EJ-S ARMv5 600MHz
WM8750[6] ARM1176JZF ARMv6 800MHz
WM8950[7] ARM Cortex-A9 ARMv7 800MHz ARM Mali-400
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