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nooby

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 12:07    Post subject:  

Salix people got really upset when I whined about
them not allowing me to be root. If you can tell me
how to be root on Salix that would be great.

Haha When I tried being root then a Box popped up saying "Meh!"

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 12:32    Post subject:  

Had to create an user
had to SU all the time. Sad

Feels like AntiX without the Debian Bloat.
Midori works well - even has speed dial.
Everything Worked out-of-the-box Very Happy

Miss using Pburn and other small apps like pfind, PWget and others. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 07 May 2012, 05:08    Post subject:  

I'm writing this from within Solus OS dl from DistroWatch this Monday.
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07238

I booted it using the code in the iso from isolinux.cfg translated to grub4dos

But it does not allow me access to the NTFS HD it booted from in frugal install.

If any of you can tell me how to change it so it allow root or at least access
to NTFS sda2 that would be nice.
Loading of FF took a very long time so most likely it did an update before starting it.
[code]title SolusOS a Debian variant
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/solus/live/vmlinuz config boot=live live-media-path=/solus/live union=unionfs --
initrd (hd0,1)/solus/live/initrd.lz [/url]

Debian for Raspberry Pi seems to also ahve problem with root.
http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Passwords

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/absolute-beginners/debian-admin-password/#p66659
User GizmoB73 says
Quote:
Interestingly (and probably rather dangerously) I have found that you can run:

$ sudo su -

#

to get logged in as root without knowing the password!

I guess he mean that he does this either on command line or in a terminal?

Is that something someone here can test.
Having a Swedish keyboard I have no idea where the # is on a UK or US kbd.
the - I am unsure of where it is too. Would be cool if someone tested this.
And how does one get the GUI Windows Manager running as Root in Solus?

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PostPosted: Mon 07 May 2012, 23:33    Post subject:  

Read/write root access:
-Plop Linux 422
-SlackelLive KDE 4.8.2-1


Swiftlinux 0-2-0-reg base on Mint can boot off very fast
Boot time comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTdWCoOo8dE
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PostPosted: Wed 09 May 2012, 06:19    Post subject:  

I am posting this from Bloathi (Bodhi with additional apps - which I'm running live from a computer in my local community centre). I really like it but so far I've not been able to run it from my own machine at home because it boots from a DVD.

Great distro anyway. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 09 May 2012, 08:08    Post subject:  

Thanks, Surprise that that version of Bloathy produce ä and ö
on an English keyboard?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 May 2012, 17:38    Post subject:  

Being a twice-daily Bodhi 1.2 remaster-for-the-Net user for the last year, I tried 1.4 to see what was new.
Not much, so I still use 1.2.

Tried Bloathi 1.4 out of curiousity, and can't get anything but 1024x768 res. Strange.
And a missing lib for Envision. Sloppy.
Everything else is perfect (normal for Bodhi).

8 out of 10 for Bloathi.
9 out of 10 for Bodhi.
I have never given anything a 10.
Slacko may be the first 10.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 08:58    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Thanks, Surprise that that version of Bloathy produce ä and ö
on an English keyboard?


Yes, oops! It must have selected the wrong keyboard when it loaded. Sorry to anyone who struggled to read my post. It's a good distro anyway even if I can't use it at home at the moment.

I'm testing out Solus and Saline at the moment, two distros based on Debian. Saline uses XFCE as its desktop manager whereas Solus uses Gnome 2 instead. I like the look of Saline a bit better (lovely wallpaper of a school of dolphins swimming underwater, for a start), but Solus comes with Firefox as standard whereas I couldn't find a way to install Firefox from the live disk, so Solus was the one I installed.

It's my first day of using it but already it looks very impressive.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 10:28    Post subject:  

I envy you. I want to try out SolusOS and SalineOS too
but like most Debian they either is very dependent
on that my NTFS HD is defragged by Ms Windows first
or that one make a linux partition or make use of USB
or DVD and I prefer to do frugal install on the HD.

I wonder if it is possible to "cheat" using PussyLinux
vmlinuz or initrd to do the boot and still end up loading
the Solus or Saline squashfs.sfs? something?

PussyLinux allow me to boot as root. Saline and Solus
do not.

But Solus OS let me boot as Debian "single" which maybe is a kind of root
but it does not start the Gnome Windows Manager.

How can one call up or load Gnome from the Command Line Interface?
Maybe one have to mount the sda2 before it works due to not running in RAM?
or how to get Firefox going or the File Manager whichever that is?


Ubuntu like distros almost all of them allow the following cheat boot.


title LM12 LXDE 2012 frugal iso boot of LM12 LM12LXDE
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso
kernel /LM12LXDE/casper/vmlinuz rw file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram kmap=se LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8 keymap=sv-latin1 noeject noprompt persistent --
initrd /LM12LXDE/casper/initrd.lz

While none of the Debian does allow it and if they do then they lock the HD
so one can not listen to the music files or see the picture files or read html either. No access.

So Ubuntu for sure is not Debian Smile That LM12 allow me to write text files and html files so almost as good as a Puppy. But real slow to load programs not being in RAM

SolusOS link on DW
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solusos

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 14:43    Post subject:  

Sorry me so annoying. I looked in the SolusOS forum
and the only post that looked like a description
where this one from UK Brian.

http://forums.solusos.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=434#p3553
He says
Quote:
I use this entry in my fsab

Code: Select all
Code:
    LABEL=500-data       /home/user/500-data   ntfs-3g  defaults,uid=1000         0      0



Where "500-data" is the partition label and "user" is your user name.
You must create a folder in your user folder named whatever you use for your windows label.

Maybe use "Windows" as the label which will appear at the bottom in nautilus hence my use off "500-data" which lists at the top

What you want really is a symbolic link in your "home/user" folder to your "C:\my documents\username" but i can't help you there.Image

Imagepisses me off
I am not allowed to enter a label on the partition i am installing to and it doesn't even default to using the "HOSTNAME" i've taken the trouble to type in,
after the install i've gota go in gparted to add a label, "sd?" means jack sh*t to me, i'm just a poor suffering thick user.
ImageBl**dy devs

Only pclos allowed me, a user to do this when I took the trouble to try his distro out


I would still have the problem of booting into root
not knowing the Admin Username and password.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 14:56    Post subject:  

Yeah, sorry you can't test out Solus or Saline but there may be a clue in the fact that I don't have a Windows partition at all as I don't run Windows. Both my partitions are ext4 (apart from the swap).
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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 15:34    Post subject:  

I can test the live in so far that I can boot it to the Gnome Desktop like I have now
and I can write in the forum but I can not access my NTFS HD due to "HD is busy
or owned by boot" something.

So how did Sickgut do to make his debian allowed to be root.
How can one borrow that ability from him and put into SolusOS
and do a remaster or patch or whatever to name it. I'm writing this
using SolusOS now. But I am a restricted "Live user"

Why do they set it up like this? As a user one want to chose
if one want to be root or not. To not have root available is to
force us to skip that distro. Yeah I know he who made it is the Boss.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2012, 08:57    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
I can test the live in so far that I can boot it to the Gnome Desktop like I have now
and I can write in the forum but I can not access my NTFS HD due to "HD is busy
or owned by boot" something.

So how did Sickgut do to make his debian allowed to be root.
How can one borrow that ability from him and put into SolusOS
and do a remaster or patch or whatever to name it. I'm writing this
using SolusOS now. But I am a restricted "Live user"

Why do they set it up like this? As a user one want to chose
if one want to be root or not. To not have root available is to
force us to skip that distro. Yeah I know he who made it is the Boss.


I agree nooby, and that inability to be able to log in as root is one of the problems I have with Denian-based distros. They seem to treat their users like children.

That is a nuisance, but it can be lived with. The other and I think more serious problem is that most of the ones I've tried can't get Flash working reliably, or sometimes even at all, so you can't watch Youtube videos in them.

Mint 12 Debian is the exception in that Flash does seem to work well in Firefox there, so you can watch videos easily in Mint Debian.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2012, 15:45    Post subject:  

Firefox now has an extention that allow one to look at youtube
and other flash videos we have it in thread here in Murga forum
but I don't remember the name of it but got posted very recently.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2012, 15:48    Post subject:  

I am downloading this one now.

Bridge Linux XFCE but have no idea if it boots on NTFS Frugal.
It is an Arch that have much more included from scratch
DW has a hint about it in the Weekly.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bridgelinux/files/Xfce/2012.4/bridge-xfce-2012.4-i686.iso/download

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