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01micko


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PostPosted: Thu 10 May 2012, 17:13    Post subject:  THINSlacko
Subject description: < 100MB
 

THINSlacko

.. is a 99MB full featured Slacko, based on 533

It uses the 3.1.10-slacko_4gA kernel (no PAE sorry)


What's in
    Firefox 3.6.28 (Namoroka)
    Sylpheed


What's out
    seamonkey-2.9.1
    alsaequal
    caps-libs
    pequalizer
    gutenprint (* that's the important one)


DOWNLOAD

It uses the same compression as FATSLacko, which is just a little more than xz. Firefox Namoroka is from March this year and is current. Flashplayer works with it fine.

Known Issues:
-may be slow to boot on some older gear (< 1GHz processor)
-forgot to mention.. use the Slacko-5.3.3 devx available from ibiblio and mirrors ..link to mirrors

This is the first full featured 99 MB puppy for awhile!

Enjoy!

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Jasper


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PostPosted: Thu 10 May 2012, 17:25    Post subject:  

Hi 01micko,

Please be so kind as to check the Download size and MD5 sum and amend or confirm.

My regards
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PostPosted: Thu 10 May 2012, 17:30    Post subject:  

I guess the absence of Gutenprint means no printing?
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PostPosted: Thu 10 May 2012, 18:04    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
I guess the absence of Gutenprint means no printing?

Not at all. I suspect that the majority of users are now installing their printers using manufacturers' drivers. It just means that Mick will need to make a Gutenprint PET available in a repo for people who need it.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 May 2012, 20:12    Post subject:  

Jasper..

just downloaded and the md5 checks out, you must have got a bad down load.. use this command:
Code:
wget -t0 -c http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/slacko/THINSlacko/THINSlacko-5.3.3t-SCSI.iso


It says 100M on the smokey repo but not here Wink

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DaveS and rcrsn51,

gutenprint is already in the repo in the Setup section.

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PostPosted: Fri 11 May 2012, 03:38    Post subject:  

Hi again 01micko,

I did have a bad download. Thank you for the OS and your help.

Hi all,

I always make a visual comparison when checking MD5 sums, but, in case it may be of some general interest, perhaps there is an automated method?

My regards
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 11 May 2012, 08:26    Post subject: THINSlacko  

I did a manual frugal install to an 8gb flash drive.

Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.3t on Fri 11 May 2012

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller
Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 1Cool
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.388 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.018 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.019 FPS

I fattened it up quite a bit, it's working fine so far.
screenshot2.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri 11 May 2012, 10:40    Post subject: MD5 - AUTOMATED METHOD  

Jasper wrote:
Hi again 01micko,

I did have a bad download. Thank you for the OS and your help.

Hi all,

I always make a visual comparison when checking MD5 sums, but, in case it may be of some general interest, perhaps there is an automated method?

My regards


May I recommend winMd5Sum Portable - a simple MD5 sum checker that allows you to check and compare the md5 sums of files. It's portable, easy-to-use and quickly installs into the PortableApps.com Menu.

In XP I have a number of portable apps installed just on the C: drive - you do not need the portable apps front end. (see top of pic)
The bottom of the pic shows the T-Slacko ISO being checked with the same app running under wine in Slacko 5.3.3
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PostPosted: Fri 11 May 2012, 12:09    Post subject:  

Hi ETP,

Thanks for your MD5 recommendation and also for your screenshot which shows how the comparison works (especially for any users who may be interested in Wine and possibly PortableApps.com).

Thanks also for the link in your signature. You're obviously enjoying Slacko.

My regards
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Volhout


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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 04:53    Post subject: thinslacko
Subject description: nice
 

01micko,

Nice to offer a small pup. Actually, when you think about it a bit more, this could be the normal pup. And fatslacko the large one.
I am a bit puzzled by the choice of apps. Is seamonkey that much larger than separate firefox(older version) and e-mail. I would expect integrated packages to be efficient.

Could Opera be used ? (replace firefox, e-mail, transmission). Perhaps a 10.5 or so.

Regards,

Volhout.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 05:25    Post subject:  

Hello Volhout,

Yes, seamonkey is a 21MB pet, was 19 until the configure option "--enable-system-cairo" became unusable because they updated the cairo requirements. Rolling Eyes .

Seamonkey has Composer (wysiwyg html editor) included though and that's something missing from THINSlacko. Also, there are some CSS issues with firefox-3.6.28, not apparent in all the newer major browsers. HTML5 support is another.


The older firefox is still being developed so that swayed my decision to include it, Opera was an option too but printing from Opera still has issues.

So, there are a number of reasons I stuck with seamonkey in the main version.

I mainly built this for bragging rights.. Rolling Eyes (99 MB full featured Laughing ), still it is a useful pup and some don't like seamonkey.

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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 05:36    Post subject:  

Mick, I wonder about this Firefox 3.6.28 (Namoroka)

Namoroka maybe is different from standard FF but
on some sites they get very upset if one use FF of 3.6 series.
They want a later version due to security issues with 3.6

What is it about Firefox 3.6.28 (Namoroka) that you prefer it to later versions?

(I prefer FF 3.6.24 myself but that is more due to that one is familiar to me by habit. But sites tells me I ahve to update to later versions)

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 05:48    Post subject:  

Nooby

Simple, the size of the pet. At around firefox-5 and seamonkey-2.4 mozilla started including libxul in their builds and this caused the package size to increase dramatically. Firefox-3.6.28 was released in March this year so is still recent and they do address security issues.

Sure, some sites object, but as stated, I wanted to see if it was still possible to get under that magical 100MB mark and not lose too many features. The main features missing are the gutenprint printer drivers (in PPM) and as said a HTML editor. I do have a Kompozer package I built and I should be uploading it to the repo soon.

Hope that answers your query. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 06:19    Post subject:  

I am booted frugally into ThinSlack now.
Surprising message from Mozilla. I try to add attachment.

What do you want me to test? I am on Acer D255 with Atom N450?
1GB intel 915 or 945 kind of chips. Atheros LAN which worked.

older text

Much appreciated I give it a try. Smile
I get back within some 30 minutes or so.

(thnx for having it on fast site. 11 seconds download )
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PostPosted: Sat 12 May 2012, 08:54    Post subject:  

Nooby, I get the same with new firefox on firstrun, it's a bug for sure, but not critical Wink

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ETP wrote:
May I recommend winMd5Sum Portable - a simple MD5 sum checker that allows you to check and compare the md5 sums of files. It's portable, easy-to-use and quickly installs into the PortableApps.com Menu.


Well I knocked up a Puppy version.. let me know if it works the same, I did try the windows version, seems the same Razz

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