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POLL: How old are you?
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ICPUG

Joined: 24 Jul 2005
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Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 08:46    Post subject:  

This got me thinking. When did programming (in high level language) start. As I recall there was a FORTRAN standard FORTRAN66 which presumably relates to 1966. Not sure about COBOL.

There must be a limit on age in Programmer Years (in high level language at least).

Me - I'm 60.

My school, which I finished in 1970, did not have ANY computers or calculators. Slide rules and logarithms were the technology of the classroom! I had some time to kill so used a book to teach myself FORTRAN before going to University later in the year, where I did it properly. These were the days of submitting programs on punched cards and waiting overnight to see if it ran! Getting syntax errors was extremely annoying and caused a delay of a day in running a program so we took more care in those days.

Puppyluvr asks us to remember when the 5 1/4 floppy was such an amazing improvement over the old 8 inch format.. My first Hard Disk was 10 mb, and I was awestruck..

He must be young! I've already mentioned punch cards and then came cassette tape on the first home computers. Hards disks? they were but a twinkle in the eye! I paid £180 to expand my Commodore PET with 8K of static RAM. A twin 5-1/4" floppy came later at £540.

Earlier this year I paid £8 to get an 8GB USB stick.

My computing history?

FORTRAN on an ICL190x mainframe (education and work)
IBM360 (work)
Commodore PET - Commodore 64/SX64 - Commodore Amiga (Home)
CP/M based machine (work)
IBM compatible PC (work and home) in increasing size and power over the years.
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linuxbear

Joined: 18 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 14:34    Post subject:  

The computer thinks I am this old:

111010

-- or --

3A
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tinker

Joined: 06 Dec 2007
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Location: Midwestern United States

PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012, 22:33    Post subject: Why this age distribution?  

I'm not surprised that there's an almost bimodal distribution of ages on this forum. This group isn't like the poll about "who uses Ubuntu"' which might be skewed to a younger more casual crowd. Nobody adapts Ubuntu. You just download it and use it. Whereas puppy is incredibly adaptable, designed deliberately to be adapted by people with different levels of expertise, from simple remastering all the way to building whole new versions from the ground up using woof. Theres a place for everyone here. It's a real community, where real enthusiasts spend a LOT of time working on their own versions, making pets, building kernels, figuring out printing, or wireless, or helping newcomers.

So who's got the free time to spend doing all that? Some young people, with their youthful energy and relatively free schedules (although they're probably neglecting their studies somewhat). Some younger singles, without family obligations, although sometimes they get busy with their jobs. ( jemimah works like a superhuman person when her job isn't busy, but even she has to pull back when it is). Who really has the time - frankly it's going to be retired people, or people who're between jobs. Bless them, that they spend that free time working for the benefit of this community.

People in between, with kids and spouses and jobs and parents, can't always devote as much time.
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Minnesota

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 08:07    Post subject: Eight Kilobites to Twelve gigabites  

Eight Kilobytes to Twelve gigabytes! One meg disk to Terabytes drives. Anyone play or program on an IBM 1130 computer? Eight K.. well actually a sixteen bit word, so by today's terms two bytes per word. Engineering major, was told to take a FORTRAN class, copied the first three programs, was so lost. By the end of the semester, I was playing from eight in the morning till after the janitor left. Following year in 1969 I was programming Payrolls, registration systems, grading systems, all on the 8 K machine. Size of your couch.

Cost was fifty thousand for an additional 8K of core memory. Just added 8 Gig of memory to my new laptop, so now have 12 GB, for forty dollars.

World goes around. One of the neat parts of the 1130 world was COMMON and other USER groups for folks to share programs and ideas. Then bigger systems became the norm. Fewer user groups. BBS's became a bit popular....and finally PUPPY and the Forum... folks like to share and contribute. For me puppy is fun, useful as well. Sixty-Six a few days ago.

Question was asked when higher level languages became popular. I would say mid Sixties. I programmed the 1130 in assembler a bit, mostly in FORTRAN and RPG. I took a COBOL class taught by an IBM instructor at the Junior Collage, COBOL was the popular language for Business and FORTRAN for engineering. A Few other flavors were used as well. That was the age of the IBM 360.

Much faster to program in higher level languages. First database was on the 1130, most of my programming today is in MS Database. Yes still programming commercial applications, in my spare time. Machines change, requirements change, but lots of companies still are manual or semi manual. Bet can be programming the same applications when I am 90! Currently programming an application I programmed similar twenty five years ago.
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ragaman

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 09:57    Post subject:  

49 and as the kids are finishing college, just starting life.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Wed 23 May 2012, 13:18    Post subject: POLL: How old are you?  

8-bit wrote:
If you really have to know, figure it out for yourself.
I was born in 1947.

Really a very good method: Compute age from date of birth (1948) Smile

Who had 8 kiloBytes?
1 k : http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/24/reg_hardware_retro_week_wrap/
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gerry

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2012, 16:23    Post subject:  

I voted (?) back in 2009, thought I'd check to see how the results are going, but I can't see them. Have they disappeared?
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linuxbear

Joined: 18 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 15:56    Post subject: Re: POLL: How old are you?  

L18L wrote:
8-bit wrote:
If you really have to know, figure it out for yourself.
I was born in 1947.

Really a very good method: Compute age from date of birth (1948) Smile

Who had 8 kiloBytes?
1 k : http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/24/reg_hardware_retro_week_wrap/



My Timex Sinclair has 8 kilobytes
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