XFE (X File Explorer) - file manager for Lucid 525

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#21 Post by Sylvander »

nooby wrote:So is this the latest then?
So many versions going around.
Here in Lupu-528.005...
I installed the version included in the "Puppy Package Manager" [PPM]...
Which is...
xfe-1.32.2-lucid52

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#22 Post by nooby »

Thanks maybe best if I use that one instead then.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#23 Post by `f00 »

Yep, only a *.**.2-4 change - funny, I cobbled together a 'duo' with both 1.19.2 and 1.32.2 just so I could have the luxury of two separate xfe fms and their distinct add-ons (works great but F3 always gives the 132 for a new instance) .. 119 might be a trifle quicker but it's a wash with 132's features/gui. Kind of a brown theme for 119 and greenish for 132

'way adaptable, even got it working in pup104 barebones :lol:

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#24 Post by Sylvander »

@f00
Any chance of you fixing the problem with the "Open with..." feature? :D

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#25 Post by `f00 »

That one is a sleeping dog for me (since so far I can't rebuild the gui to only have a dropdown box, ideal would be a context menu branch if it could be done which I doubt in a simple hierarchy). Normally I simply edit a nice selection of 'History' apps for anything that fits a personal openwith kit for the dropbox and leave the other button alooone .. dog sleeps nice enough.

Some like to 'associate' filetypes, I find it easier to edit the rc - tip! to make it easier to find ext-lines, sort the filetypes section in medit or any text editor that has the sort function .. it gets unsorted afterwards but helps for when you're working there (search is another, but sometimes gives too much). One of the few pitbs to making xfe universal is the wide array of different apps in different pups (like media players and bare html viewers).

xfe needs a general discussion catchall thread :D

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#26 Post by nooby »

I feel so out of the loop :)
What is this "Open with" everybody talks about.
I'm totally lost ...You mean it is not added to the Menu?
Does one need to go to terminal and call it up with parameters?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#27 Post by Sylvander »

2. If I'm running Xfe...
And I right-click on a file...
Lets say it's a PET file...
The context menu displayed includes "Open with..." as one of the listed choices.
So...

2. If I then click on "Open with..."...
A dialog opens that aught to offer the means to choose a program to use to "Open" the file.
[Also offers a tick-box to associate the program to always automatically be used to open that file type.]
But...

3. Unless I apply a workaround...
The drop-down-box is EMPTY!
[The workaround populates the drop-down-box with programs that I specify]
So...

4. In the case where the drop-down-box is empty...
I would be forced to manually navigate to a suitable program [e.g. petget to open a PET file]...
Which is an inconvenience.

5. Right now...
Having applied the workaround...
My Xfe->"Open with..." drop-down-box includes:
leafpad, abiword, epdfview, ffconvert, foxit, geany, gnome-mplayer, md5sum, mplayer, mtpaint, notepad.
Note that petget isn't included! :(
Must get around to adding that to the list.
Tried to do it right now, but it fails to take for some reason. :?

6. Here's a post [in my Puppy Linux thread at the PC-Guide forums] with a link to the workaround method I'm using.

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#28 Post by capicoso »

Hi. I wonder if you can help me...
I use Lucid Puppy 5.28-004 and JWM. I installed XFE from the PPM. I wanted to make it my default file manager so i downloaded Sylvander's pet to make it default instead of ROX.
Everything is ok, except the drive icons on my desktop. When i click them, XFE opens, that's ok. But they don't refresh. If i connect i.e an external HDD, it won't figure on my desktop because it's not refreshing, also, i don't know when they're mounted or not... any solution?

Thanks

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#29 Post by Sylvander »

1. "I use Lucid Puppy 5.28-004"
(a) How about updating to the latest version = lupu-528.005?
What kind of install are you running?
"Live" CD, and pupsave file?

2. "I wanted to make it my default file manager so i downloaded Sylvander's pet to make it default instead of ROX"
(a) Is THIS the kind of thing you used to make Xfe the default file manager?
That's rather ancient now, and I no longer use it, because it's something of a pest to have Xfe open each time a partition is mounted by being clicked on the desktop.
I leave the Puppy as originally set up, so that ROX opens by default...
Then I just close ROX and open Xfe instead if I prefer [and I usually do].

3. "But they don't refresh. If i connect i.e an external HDD, it won't figure on my desktop because it's not refreshing, also, i don't know when they're mounted or not... any solution?"
(a) If it were me...
I'd uninstall the program used to make Xfe the default file manager...
Or by any means you prefer->[restore a pupsave backup], go back to using ROX as the default file manager.
Then...

(b) Update to lupu-528.005.

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#30 Post by `f00 »

3) yep, leave rox as the default fm for desktop driveicons (a bit involved to change that so it works correctly with anything else) - an alternative is pmount, not so hard to edit so that it doesn't automatically load rox when mounting (search 'rox' after you open pmount in a text editor and try some selective commenting out of lines 'til you get the one that doesn't auto rox when it's #'d). Either way works (pmount is a bit less convenient than desktop driveicons, but if you don't use the rox pinboard .. it all depends on how much you use something as to how convenient it is).

xfe132 should display mounted drive-fs in /mnt with a fairly obvious icon (at least it's not a folder image), rclick to get unmount or use pmount or.. (pmount should 'refresh' itself as part of probe if used) - to refresh an xfe panel ctrl+r, or F1 for the very useful built-in tips ;)

for sfs, 2-4fs filetypes I have filemnt as the 'open' operator in xferc's filetypes section - rclick->'open' to mount, 'open' again to unmount (almost like the clickon in rox). These are a somewhat special case, especially sfs types (older/newer can "fail to mount" depending on compatibility with the running pup .. then you have to clear it to unmount the parent drive-fs)

@capicoso - you can always put xfe in the rox openwith (can't recall offhand which xapplication***etc so it gets inode proper :? , rox/mimetypes is fun that way :lol: )

@Sylvander - lately on the saluki thread, there's a request for xfe :) interesting..

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#31 Post by capicoso »

Hey, thanks for the answers.

@ Sylvander its a frugal install, i didn't read the benefits of 005, i'll check now. And i used that method you said.
Is it safe to remove the .pet? Will i have rox work as always?
If i can't make XFE the default, can i at least use the desktop drive icons but without poping up ROX-filer?

@ `f00

I didn't understand very well... doing that would work as i wanted?



thanks.

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#32 Post by `f00 »

desktop driveicons are pretty much as they were originally set up to work with rox by BK (in other words, not for the faint-of-heart-nor-skill to change) but you can try if you're the adventurous type.

editing pmount is safer ;)

rox is basically good to go in the original sfs of your pup. "work as always" depends on what changes you've made, but it's fairly robust so.. (haha, I just remembered doing some things that fubar'd gtk a long time ago & that rendered rox and many other gtk-based apps temporarily useless but not xfe since xfe uses fltk)

the rox->openwith->xfe dodge I mentioned just in passing, there's a particular way to make it work properly as expected if I recall (why the :? emoticon, I've only done it rarely)

good luck and have fun
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a few this'n'that, fwiw:

lines for filetypes section of xferc to enable 2-4fs and sfs open(mount/unmount):
2fs=filemnt;2fs file system;2fs_32x32.png;2fs_16x16.png;;
3fs=filemnt;3fs file system;3fs_32x32.png;3fs_16x16.png;;
4fs=filemnt;4fs file system;4fs_32x32.png;4fs_16x16.png;;
sfs=filemnt;Squash file system;sfs_32x32.png;sfs_16x16.png;;
SFS-=filemnt;Squash file system;sfs_32x32.png;sfs_16x16.png;;

typical filetype entry etc:
png=gqview,gview,mtpaint;PNG Image;png_32x32.png;png_16x16.png;;
<ext>=<open>,<view>,<edit>;<a description>;<bigicon>;<smallicon>;;
note - full path(s) for open/view/edit may be used if desired

pmount I use (from q142) as a SAMPLE:
rename your original /usr/sbin/pmount to pmountOEM, then
rclick->Properties, Permissionstab and tick the execute flags to try this
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#33 Post by capicoso »

I just edited pmount and now it doesn't open rox everytime i click on mount... but i want to make use of the drive icons on the desktop, i'd like to make them behave like pmount, when i click on a drive icon, mount it but don't open rox nor xfe. But that seems hard... so i think i'll just leave it as always.

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#34 Post by Sylvander »

1. "Is it safe to remove the .pet?"
Yes.

2. "Will i have rox work as always?"
Yes.

3. "If i can't make XFE the default"
At some time in the past...
I DID make Xfe the default...
And it worked OK...
But, when I didn't want it to open, it was such a HUGE window...
So I uninstalled it, so as to go back to ROX opening instead [its a nice/small window, and easy to close].

4. "can i at least use the desktop drive icons but without poping up ROX-filer?"
I've no idea how to do that.

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#35 Post by don570 »

can i at least use the desktop drive icons but without poping up ROX-filer?"

When the Rox desktop icon is clicked ------->
I think this can be done by changing the desktop file
in /usr/share/applications/

Image

or else change the description of the desktop icon

Image

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#36 Post by Sylvander »

don570 wrote:When the Rox desktop icon is clicked ------->
I think this can be done by changing the desktop file
in /usr/share/applications/
What should that setting be changed to?
If I wanted NOTHING to auto-run when I clicked on an icon for a partition on the desktop/pinboard.

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#37 Post by capicoso »

Hey, i managed to make it work as i wanted. I don't know if it's allright or what, but i modified AppRun, which is in .pup_event, there are 4 lines about rox, changed 2 of them so when i click on the drives XFE opens, and the icons still refresh

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#38 Post by kooliepup »

-now with *fs mounting-

I have been using XFE for years, and the thing I have always wished it had is partition mounting.
Recent versions have partition un-mounting, so it will probably happen some day.

Using 1.32.4, and still not there.

Some of the whizz coders here could surely help the developer out by implementing mounting, I reckon.
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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#39 Post by backi »

I have been using XFE for years, and the thing I have always wished it had is partition mounting.
Recent versions have partition un-mounting, so it will probably happen some day.

Using 1.32.4, and still not there.

Some of the whizz coders here could surely help the developer out by implementing mounting
So some years later ..........
I want to ask ......is there any Method how to mount /unmount Partitions with
XFE ?

Thanks in Advance !

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#40 Post by wiak »

https://sourceforge.net/p/xfe/feature-r ... /?limit=25 says:
In Xfe 1.42, there is now the possibility to enter custom mount / unmount commands in the Preferences / Program dialog.
Also see:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/question ... 175550594/

It appears you might need to add some entries to /etc/fstab unless things have changed:

http://www.leonardoborda.com/blog/how-t ... stab-file/

And, Ctrl-M according to:

http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/index.php?page=docs

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