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Pussy: potentially a Puppy with a perfect package manager
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449 |
Clinton with two possible candidates: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4337654/Bill-wanted-the-thrill-Ex-President-ASKED-for-porn-star-snap.html |
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greengeek
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1217 Location: New Zealand |
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449 |
Yeah, what we need is someone who can muster bipartisan support. (sorry for getting OT for the Pussy thread) |
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greengeek
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1217 Location: New Zealand |
Well I guess the Clinton reference demonstrates the way the old dog (Puppy) gets on well with the new Pussy on the block. Kinda sad that this thread is winding down, but oh well, an attempt at humour doesn't hurt... 
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greengeek
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1217 Location: New Zealand |
(before you forever disappear off to the Pi in the sky topic...) |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope |
Much appreciated john3voltas that you share this info with all of us. Very important. Some of the devs of Debian seems to be adamant to protect us at all cost so such info some of them seem eager to keep to themselves? Hope this description now will allow us to make progress to have a Debian that can be root. That would be a very good thing for RPi too and so on. _________________ I'm a noob so I use Google Search of Puppy Forum |
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saintless
 Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 481 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, John3voltas, With all do respect "just finding where the "live-boot" does this mounting" is far more complicated process. If it was so easy I'm sure SynrG would tell you the path to this script him self. Read this thread and the answers on the first page from JBV and Emil: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75668 What has to be done is inside initrd.img file and possible inside the vmlinuz file, but it is not simple change from ro to rw with sure. So my advice to Sickgut is not to waste his time with this. _________________ KDpup-484 FoxyRoxyLinux Pussylinux BackUp forum |
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sunburnt
 Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4016 Location: Arizona, U.S.A. |
Mozart didn`t put in any time when he played the violin at age 5.! The prediction for a black president was for the time we are living in now... |
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449 |
Of course he did! "His father (1719–1787) was from Augsburg. A minor composer and an experienced teacher, he was deputy Kapellmeister to the court orchestra of the Archbishop of Salzburg." His father played musical games with him, etc, at a very early age. What are you thinking, at 5 he just picked up a violin and started giving concerts ?? Anyway, who said that there aren't child prodogies, and what does that have to do with fortune tellers? |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope |
So it is that difficult? I wonder what changes that Ubuntu made to the Debian code/script that allowed my cheat booting learned from d4p and maybe others. title LM12 LXDE 2012 frugal iso boot of LM12 LM12LXDE find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso kernel /LM12LXDE/casper/vmlinuz rw file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram noeject noprompt -- initrd /LM12LXDE/casper/initrd.lz This worked up to LM12 but not on LM13 so they changed back to a more restricted code/script maybe due to my cheat. I told them about it on several forums. So maybe they at last did something about it. The cool thing is that it allows me to treat LM12 as if it is a almost identical to Puppy without having to be root at all. I can write to the NTFS HD without having permissions. So a kind of loop hole or whatever. Wish Debian had such a loophole too.
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 481 Location: Bulgaria |
Nooby, you can be sure the changes they made are in initrd.img file and vmlinuz file. Most likely they did it by accident and they can't tell you what exactly makes the rw access to boot NTFS partition possible. You can try to tease them with a question like that but I doubt they will help you with answer what exactly and where has to be changed.
Yes, there is a loophole for full rw access to all your NTFS partitions, but you will need at least 512Mb RAM on your computer. 1. Merge all the squash files in one big squash file. (I'm doing this for my needs anyway and I can upload the result if you want to test this NTFS rw method). 2. Move this merged big squash file inside the live folder with initrd.img and vmlinuz files. Don't leave any other files inside the live folder. Just initrd.img, vmlinuz and 01-merged.squashfs (lets assume this is the name of the merged squash file). 3. Add this at the end of your kernel line in the menu list:
My boot code looks like this:
This will copy only the squash file into RAM. 4. Reboot the computer. Now Pussy linux is running in your RAM and your NTFS partition is ready to be mounted with RW access. With my merged copy your NTFS partition will be mounted from boot because of the auto-mount-all-drives script from Emil, which is included for my needs. If it is mounted as read-only with this auto-mount script you will have to unmount and mount it again with ntfs3g driver. Anyway you will have RW access to all your NTFS partitions, because the system will boot from the live folder on your NTFS partition but it will be running in your RAM letting you to do whatever you like with your NTFS partitions. You can even format your entire hard drive if you like. I suppose this will be convenient enough for you to use Pussy linux or any Debian live CD. Edit: You can also test this with this HotROX merged file from JBV. It contains the first two squash files from pussy linux. Download it from here: http://www.thepussycatforest.info/linux/custom-packages/jbv/1-hotROXpussy.squashfs _________________ KDpup-484 FoxyRoxyLinux Pussylinux BackUp forum Edited_time_total |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 481 Location: Bulgaria |
OK, Nooby, tested with 1-hotROXpussy.squashfs and it works like charm. You will need only 200 MB of RAM with hotROX. Download link here: http://www.thepussycatforest.info/linux/custom-packages/jbv/1-hotROXpussy.squashfs Put in the live folder 1-hotROXpussy.squashfs, vmlinuz and initrd.img and add this at the end of the kernel line in menu list:
Here is mine full code:
Then reboot. Your NTFS partition will not be even mounted. You can mount it and you have rw access and much more - for the experiment I just deleted my entire partition: containing the live folder with 1-hotROXpussy.squashfs, vmlinuz and initrd.img. Hope this is enough cheat code for your NTFS problem. _________________ KDpup-484 FoxyRoxyLinux Pussylinux BackUp forum |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope |
Thanks I give it a try It boots but I have no way to find the harddisk. "You can mount it " How do I mount it? it is sda2 I also fail to get firefox going I added that sqfs file too from the older hotrox How does one call it up? Lynx I have no idea how to tell it to go to www Networks seems to fail too. Nothing happens when I click on it But if I use the same code and use the older 1-hotrox.sqfs from Mars 3 instead of the lastest one then both firefox works and access to Drive works. Have not tested to write anything yet I am in pussy now. Edit Leafpad can not write with the older 1-hotrox so good that you have tested to change that but no good that it failed to start firefox and no access to the HD drive is nowhere to be seen. Very odd thanks for the try though. Would could I do wrong ? _________________ I'm a noob so I use Google Search of Puppy Forum |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 481 Location: Bulgaria |
Nooby, with this Grub code you can load only one squash file in RAM. You can't load easy another squash file from the hard drive. If you manage to load the firefox squash file from your live folder you will go back to your NTFS problem, because the firefox squash file will make your NTFS partition to give you the error:"can't mount the device, the device is bussy", or something simillar. To have firefox working yo need to merge firefox squash file with 1-hotroxpussy squash file. They have to become one file. This is easy to do so don't waste your time with this now. Try to mount the sda2 this way. It will mount the partition in /mnt folder:
This works with NTFS partition created with GParted. I'm not sure if it will work with partition created by Windows. For Windows NTFS partition may be this command will work better:
Once you confirm you can write on your NTFS partition I will write you how to get firefox working. You have internet connection. Type in terminal:
and you will see. _________________ KDpup-484 FoxyRoxyLinux Pussylinux BackUp forum |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope |
okay thanks I give it a short try now it is too late for anything more 10.53PM Yes that worked well. Using Iceweasel now åäö even works. But I should have prepared the savefile now I will lose everthing when I shut down
And now I can write to the hd too. Ooops should take a last look Hold your breath. Yes it works to write using leafpad. Jay thanks Saintless. AFAIK it did not work using the old one. So this is real progress. I have now created a save file but are not sure if I have to rename it for it to work and if I should place it in hotroxpussy dir or on home? Root? / _________________ I'm a noob so I use Google Search of Puppy Forum |
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