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Trouble booting from Live CD
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Nexus

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 04:05    Post subject:  Trouble booting from Live CD
Subject description: Can I make do without one?
 

Hi everyone,
I am trying to resurrect an old Dell Dimension 2400.
Unfortunately I am unable to boot from the Live-CD. The computer has a CD drive, which broke years ago, and a working DVD drive which does not show up in the boot menu.

I do have internet access on that machine.

Is there any way of getting Puppy Linux to work?


Thanks.
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Burn_IT

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Location: Tamworth UK

PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 04:55    Post subject:  

How much memory and does it have the option to boot from USB?

That is higher spec than this Latitude C840 that I use every day with multi boot into Window 7 ,XP Pro , and Puppy, (plus others).

What is already on there that works - even a DOS boot helps.?

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Sylvander

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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 06:04    Post subject: Re: Trouble booting from Live CD
Subject description: Can I make do without one?
 

Nexus wrote:
unable to boot from the Live-CD...a working DVD drive which does not show up in the boot menu.

If there is a working FDD fitted...
And you can boot that prior to any other device...
[Because it's listed 1st in the boot menu in the BIOS Setup]
You could boot a "Smart Boot Manager" [SBM] bootable floppy.
That would display [in a list] all of the bootable devices found [including all optical drives seen]...
And you could choose to boot [the "live" Puppy CD in] your DVD drive.
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cthisbear

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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 07:06    Post subject:  

" and a working DVD drive which does not show up in the boot menu. "

You probably need to go into the Bios

disable the cd-rom

and enable the DVD >>> to be able to boot Puppy.

If the dvd is working...Assuming it's windows

the answer should be simple.

Press F2 and looked at the primary and secondary hard drives

or optical drives.

:::::::::::::

Specs.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1610

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz processor, 400Mhz FSB (100MHzx4)
Chipset: Intel 845GV chipset
Videocard:

Integrated Intel Extreme graphics
Sound:

Integrated Soundmax Sound
Memory:

256MB PC-2700 DDR memory (one module)
Networking:

Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 40GB ATA/100 7200RPM hard drive
CDROM: Hitachi 48X CD-ROM drive
Monitor: 19" Dell brand M992 monitor (max 1600x1200 @ 75Hz, .24 Dot pitch)
Software Setup

WindowsXP Home Edition
Accessories

Logitech MX500 optical scroll mouse
Altec Lansing 2 speaker system
Dell PS/2 keyboard
PCI 56K modem
Microphone

"""""""""

OR

Unplug your computer from the electrical outlet before opening the cover.

Removing the Computer Cover

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/rmvcvr.htm#1105421

Removing the Front Panel

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/fpanel.htm#1106381

Removie the Front-Panel Insert

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/fpanel.htm#1106472

Adding or Replacing a CD or DVD Drive

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/drives.htm

""""


Pull the 2 cables off the other dead cd drive.

See if it boots.
If not >> pull out dvd...if it's set as Master...that should be OK
stick the other flat cable on it...it should boot.

If not...change the back pin at the rear of DVD
to Cable select

"""
I don't do that myself...but maybe that's what is happening.

Ensure that the jumper setting on the new drive is set for "cable select" (see the documentation that came with the drive for information).

Chris.
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 17:52    Post subject:  

I'm on a Dimension 2400 right now, with WinXP.
Despite the common model name, specifications may vary.
This one originally had 128MB RAM.
(Sometimes I run Wary on it.)
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RetroTechGuy


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 17:58    Post subject:  

Dewbie wrote:
I'm on a Dimension 2400 right now, with WinXP.
Despite the common model name, specifications may vary.
This one originally had 128MB RAM.
(Sometimes I run Wary on it.)


Why would they take that much processor and stifle it with that little memory?

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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 18:05    Post subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:
Quote:
Why would they take that much processor and stifle it with that little memory?

Maybe the bean-counters hijacked the shipping department. Laughing
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Nexus

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 22:12    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
" and a working DVD drive which does not show up in the boot menu. "

You probably need to go into the Bios

disable the cd-rom

and enable the DVD >>> to be able to boot Puppy.


Thanks for the suggestion. I got it working by disabling the broken drive, which was set as "Secondary master" and after that it was able to boot from the "Secondary slave" DVD drive, and that's good enough for my purposes.

Cheers.
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 05:30    Post subject:  

" Thanks for the suggestion "

"""""

Hey! Nexus.

I'll add it to my scorecard.

Now it reads 1 out of 100.

Who said you don't get better with age....>> dementia joke.

Thanks for posting back...and enjoy Puppy.

Chris.
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infromthepound

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 06:12    Post subject:  

Dewbie wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:
Quote:
Why would they take that much processor and stifle it with that little memory?

Maybe the bean-counters hijacked the shipping department. Laughing


How much was RAM at the time the computer was built?
It's cheap now but I don't think it was then.
JB
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 16:57    Post subject:  

infromthepound wrote:
Dewbie wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:
Quote:
Why would they take that much processor and stifle it with that little memory?

Maybe the bean-counters hijacked the shipping department. Laughing


How much was RAM at the time the computer was built?
It's cheap now but I don't think it was then.
JB


It's really been pretty cheap for the last dozen years.

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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 01:00    Post subject:  

When 128MB was considered a decent amount of RAM--about 10 years ago--it was much more expensive. Nowadays, a seller would be lucky to get $5 (U.S.) for it.
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 03:17    Post subject: Trouble booting from Live CD  

Hi all,

Last fall, I picked up a stick of 128 mb sdram for my Pentium 3 and paid $5.00 for it. However, only 5 1/2 years ago, the same stick of ram for a similar system cost me $49.00 plus tax "up here" in Canada --I just found the old receipt with my computer related stuff. If memory serves me correctly, this stick was over $100 in 2000-2001. For me, that was a noticeable chunk of change... In fact, I can remember getting two sticks of 16mb EDO ram for my Pentium 1 (166 mhz) in 2000 and our local computer centre and paying $147.00 for it in total. Needless to say: I bet there was considerable mark-up on such computer components and accessories at that time, but much less so now of course.

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