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gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2637 Location: Earth

Here's a discussion that we in Puppyland must pay very close attention to. In fact, we must not only open a dialogue, but must address this!

Puppy Linux is not a typical OS because it is built Internet Centric. This means that EVERYTHING about it requires Internet capability for full use. Everything from help screens to having a browser update or Flash or etc.

There is the need for the internet. Further, IP V6 can (and probably should) be deployed on the LAN .... now rather than waiting. If we address it now, there is little need to have to react in the future....ever.

Here an important date ===> June 6th 2012

See this article

Please share your strategies, comments and ideas for the community to see. And, share any ideas for an OOTB solution for the local ethernet system(s)

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scsijon · Posted: Mon 04 Jun 2012, 19:26 Post subject:

I've spoken to a number of isp's relating to ip6 vs ip4 over the last few years.

In all cases they freely admit to use it internally.

However, the backbones between them across Australia, the International hub ports, and the access ports such as the sat's have are ip4 configured only, with "no intention of adding ip6 or replacing ip4 with ip6 at any forseeable stage" to quote a major player. They apparently don't see the throughput or loadings requiring it, "when (physical) bandwidth is so cheap and easy to get in Australia" to quote another.

scsijon

aarf · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend

hmmm saw this in the press. pleased that someone puppy has their mind on it. my limited grasp at quick glance was that it was network stuff that wouldn't affect me personally. so didn't look deeper.

sunburnt · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4006 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.

Well... Tomorrow`s the day! I think being ahead of the pack in this regard is a good thing.

Many things it`s best to let them develop before embracing them, not IP v6.
Being ready in the base Puppies is prudent thinking, then it trickles down to the rest.

disciple · Posted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 01:33 Post subject:

sunburnt · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4006 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.

disciple; I don`t know, I don`t follow the Puppy news much.

But in regards to IP v6, there`s little reason to not be prepared.
It possible that Puppy is prepared to some degree, again I don`t know.

Terryphi · Posted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 11:04 Post subject:

Recent Puppy versions by BK are ipv6 ready. (Domestic router manufacturer's are not!)

The kernel is IPv6 ready but the ipv6 kernel module is not automatically loaded. It can be loaded by typing at terminal:

# modprobe ipv6

Output for # ifconfig then shows an inet6 addr:

To get the ipv6 module to autoload on boot it is necessary to edit /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG .

In line 31 edit ADDLIST=' ' to ADDLIST='ipv6'

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2637 Location: Earth

disciple · Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 21:07 Post subject:

I saw a story the other day on the achievements of the IT department at Beca (one of the biggest engineering firms in this part of the world) in migrating their systems to be IPV6 compatible. It seems the main challenge is/was the systems which need to be "hybrid" because they're using rubbish Microsoft components which only understand IPv4 (e.g. Microsoft "Lync" for their phone systems). You'd think that with all the resources at Microsoft's disposal they could've made things in Office 2010 IPv6 capable, but no, that was apparently too difficult for Microsoft.

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2942 Location: Sydney Australia

' Turn off IPv6, say security experts "

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/turn-off-ipv6-say-security-experts-20120608-2002h.html

Chris.

Terryphi · Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 01:12 Post subject:

gcmartin:

Another issue to consider is that the Puppy Firewall is not IPv6 ready.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=35749414&t=64193

For those using an IPv6 router with integrated firewall presumably this is not a concern.

Monsie · Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 464 Location: Kamloops BC Canada

gcmartin,

There is also Teredo tunneling for those who do not have ipv6 capable hardware and/or an ISP who is not IPV6 ready. This approach provides one with "full IPV6 connectivity" apparently, although ultimately it is considered to be a temporary solution. More information can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling It is important to note that Teredo tunneling is Microsoft technology... but, that there is an open-source program called Miredo for Linux and BSD based systems that utilizes this same technology. The Miredo site is located here and there are software packages for debian as well as source code... the latter which would have to be compiled and tested of course. That said, this could possibly be an option for Puppy Linux users.

I've only begun to read about this, so do not know much about it yet. I thought it would be useful to add to the discussion though possibly one could devote a separate thread on this particular IPV6 (temporary) solution.

Monsie

kooliepup · Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 04:27 Post subject:

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2637 Location: Earth

There are routers on the market that provide IPV6 OOTB. See Linksys's E-series routers. I have deployed this morning 2 of them. The E4200 and the EA4500.

Each,of these units provide IPV6 support, both, to the ISP and on the LAN to the LAN's PCs (DHCP).

I am NOT encouraging anyone to follow suit. I only mention because the IPV6 technology is already showing up. You'll need to be astute when you acquire a new router; you should be aware of what you are doing when you are selecting so that you don't acquire "old technology in a new dress".

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Dingo · Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 15:07 Post subject: