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Macpup 525 & Macpup 528 & 528v2
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Gnuxo

Joined: 09 Feb 2012
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 19:42    Post subject:  
I was trying to install Pyroom. And when installing libfontconfig, e17 would crash periodically.

Two times I tried uninstalling and reinstalling libfontconfig1 and e17 crashed.

Also when I tried a .pet of Focus Writer, saving my work would cause everything to freeze and nothing would respond. Except trying to switch x sessions through ctrl+alt+f2/3/4...etc;

In which I case I found that switching x sessions into the tty was not possible due to the login.

I finally got a .pet of pyroom that works so I'm fine now but it's still sad how e17 crashes. I hope that bug will be fixed in newer versions of e17.

Speaking of which? I was wondering about Macpupv2.

Is that mainly a development version? Or a final?
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runtt21


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 19:55    Post subject:  
It's unusual for a crash like that. When that happens in macpup it's because a .pet has something in it that is already in use and then tries to overwrite it during the install. Where do you get these .pets?
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Gnuxo

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 20:45    Post subject:  
The puppy package manager.
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runtt21


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 21:46    Post subject:  
Are you using the ubuntu repos? I can't find those at ibiblio
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Gnuxo

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 21:49    Post subject:  
Yeah, the ubuntu repos.

Unfortunately. I needed plenty of dependencies for the install. Luckily I found a pet which didn't need that many.

Would be nice if the PPM had a autoremove feature for those unneeded dependencies.
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runtt21


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 17:03    Post subject:  
Another new theme . The MP528-Lucax-4.pet is now in the macpup 528 folder on my macpup page. Enjoy !! The wallpaper is animated Logo and text fade in and out on mouse over.


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Roger Hunter

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 20:34    Post subject: Boot failure  
Hi;

I've tried both 525 and 528 on my P4 running XP with no luck.

525 just fails and 528 stops at a grub prompt.

I have no idea how to proceed, being a complete dunce with Linux but I have installed and run nearly every puppy around - except these two.

Roger
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runtt21


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 21:45    Post subject:  
Do either of them make it to this screen? 525's has a different background but the same thing. You do a md5sum on the downloads right?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/runtt21/528bluew-screenshot.png

The reason I ask is that our .iso's use the stage2 grub bootloader to boot the cd. Cause we like a pretty boot screen. Once in a while a computer dosen't like it and the cd wont make it to that screen. If you didn't get there I will need to explain a work around.
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 22:09    Post subject:  
runtt21 wrote:
Another new theme . The MP528-Lucax-4.pet is now in the macpup 528 folder on my macpup page. Enjoy !! The wallpaper is animated Logo and text fade in and out on mouse over.



Just my taste ! :COOL:

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For Grub people have to watch out when they SWAP OR ADD HDDs,
GRUB keeps part of it's syntax
especially for hd0

but the kernel not !

If HDD-0 becomes HDD-1 but bootorder is HDD-1 first,
Grub in HDD-1 still thinks it is on hd0
but the kernel needs root=/dev/sdbX instead of /dev/sdaX .

Otherwise Grub may recognize the new order for new HDD-1 and HDD-2 so root (1,1) may have to be root(2,1) for File not found error .
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runtt21


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 22:15    Post subject:  
@Karl did you try the silk-4 theme?
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Roger Hunter

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 22:46    Post subject: Boot failure  
No, I get a black screen with a grub prompt. Seems to be a bash prompt.

Roger
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 00:59    Post subject:  
Quote:
No, I get a black screen with a grub prompt. Seems to be a bash prompt.

Roger


Then apparently (hdx,y)/boot/grub/stage2 is found
which is actually something like /usr/sbin/grub
with few more internal functions/commands or help output ,

but /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing .

Quote:
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]


grub> help configfile
Quote:
configfile: configfile FILE
Load FILE as the configuration file.

So :
grub> configfile (hda,b)/path/to/menu.lst

could do it if menu.lst is somewhere .

To find menu.lst :

grub> find /boot/grub/menu.lst
(hd0,1)
(hd0,2)
(hd0,5)
(hd1,1)
(hd1,2)
(hd1,5)
(hd1,7)
(hd2,1)


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Runtt21 : Silk4 is running on 511 (with a lot of F1 Recover xmessage s without the funny TUT TUT TUT fix your code error messages in xerrs.log Smile ... hmmm seems i have to fill up -lfridge with liquids Laughing ) .

The fading of the logo is awesome !!

Next might be to put it somewhere probably to the lower right corner

like the logo placement in A-Plat-Red-Macpup theme,
that i managed to make it scale by adjusting the .edc file a little ..
devil os, wont edje_decc now, seems i have to open all older themes
and make an archive of them to be able to _cc them on later e17s ...

[edit]
edje_decc for Silk-4 goes but edje_cc not :
# edje_cc default.edc ../MP-Silk-4-511.edj
ERR:EDJE_CC edje_cc_parse.c:115 new_object() edje_cc: Error. <stdin>:13555 unhandled keyword min

So the internal words have changed or more have been added to newer enlightrenment svn s or edje version 1.0|1.1|1.2 ..
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 01:31    Post subject:  
MP528-Lucax-4.pet also with the fading/shading logo runs well on MP511 contrary to MP528-Silk-4 :
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Roger Hunter

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 09:39    Post subject: Boot failure  
Karl;

grub> find /boot/grub/menu.lst

gives me

File not found

It should be on the CD but I don't know what the CD drive is called in Linux.
For that matter it should find it there anyway since that's what it's booting from.

Roger
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 10:09    Post subject:  
Roger, as far as i know, the live cd/iso uses a different grub :

How to have a graphical GRUB (Updated Package Available)

by CatDude Question

Might be its' syntax is different and probably does not get the DRIVES syntax right . I don't boot the live cds often, nearly never, cos i am using Full Installations of Macpup_Foxy_3 and -Opera_2 as my main OSs together with a Lupu-511 development preview and Macpup511 once a while . Newer Pups i usually boot frugal from HDD by installing "manually" . There had been times when people had been too stupid to find the menu.lst and now the puppyinstaller should open the menu.lst by default. That feature was added i think later than Lupu-5.1.1 , so Macpup-528 should have that .
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