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Slacko 5.3.3 full install: .pets fail to install first time
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ldp

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 02:55    Post subject:  Slacko 5.3.3 full install: .pets fail to install first time  

I'm a relative newbie and I couldn't see my issue anywhere so forgive me if this isn't the right place but I'm having a problem installing PETs.

I have a full install of Slacko 5.3.3 on a Sony notebook (along with WinXP). I've been using Puppy most of the time since installing and enjoying (!) it. I've had problems, notably X windows failing to start on a couple of occasions and scripts disappearing following this, but I have managed to recover copy damaged/corrupt/missing files from the Live CD.

Whether the following is related I don't know, but the first time I try to download and install a PET from the package manager I get an error, if I try again I succeed. The Puppy Package Manager shows both attempts in the 'uninstall' list.

Is it the package manager itself? The repository URLs appear okay and I don't appear to have a problem downloading anything, just installing.

Can I copy the Puppy Package Manager from the Live CD to fix?
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 06:20    Post subject:  

Ldp- sounds like you need Wink this.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 12:55    Post subject: Re: PETs fail to install first time
Subject description: Problem with installing PETs
 

ldp wrote:
full install of Slacko 5.3.3 on a Sony notebook (along with WinXP)...X windows failing to start on a couple of occasions and scripts disappearing following this...managed to recover copy damaged/corrupt/missing files...the first time I try to download and install a PET from the package manager I get an error...I don't appear to have a problem downloading anything, just installing.

1. Is the full Slacko install on the same partition as XP?
If so, which [CORRUPTED?] partition_file_system is in use?

2. If the partition_file_system IS corrupted, then...
You need to scan&fix it.
Not sure how you do that with a full install [I don't use full installs].
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 03:21    Post subject:  

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I have a full install of Slacko 5.3.3 on a Sony notebook (along with WinXP).

If this is truly a full install. It has to be on a separate Linux formatted partition.
If you only have one partition, with Windows on it, you have to have a frugal install of Puppy.
Before doing a frugal install to a partition with Windows, you must defrag the partition using the Windows defrag program.
Keeps the Puppy frugal install from being fragmented.

From the problems you describe. I would delete Puppy and do a reinstall. Your problems indicate a bad install.

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ldp

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 10:28    Post subject:  

It is a full install on a second partition (sda2), XP is on sda1, grub to boot.

It was all working fine until one day a couple of weeks ago X crashed and then failed to start - after playing about with wbar if I remember. I managed to get things working again quite quickly (subject of another post) by retrieving working versions of scripts from the Live CD.

Anyway I will look at semme's suggestion in detail when I'm at home and see if the patch indicated there fixes my issues. I don't really want to do a reinstall as I have just got things setup nicely!

Thanks to you all for you contributions. Will let you know how it goes .....
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jun 2012, 11:33    Post subject:  

ldp wrote:
It is a full install on a second partition (sda2), XP is on sda1, grub to boot.

It was all working fine until one day a couple of weeks ago X crashed and then failed to start - after playing about with wbar if I remember. I managed to get things working again quite quickly (subject of another post) by retrieving working versions of scripts from the Live CD.

Anyway I will look at semme's suggestion in detail when I'm at home and see if the patch indicated there fixes my issues. I don't really want to do a reinstall as I have just got things setup nicely!

Thanks to you all for you contributions. Will let you know how it goes .....


A more comprehensive repair of a full install can quickly
be achieved by using the install cd.
Rerun the full install; but chose "upgrade" instead of "wipe".
Doesn't remove existing setup or require running grub again.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun 2012, 00:44    Post subject:  

Just to make it clear what rjbrewer is suggesting:
Boot with the live CD of Slacko
Use boot option puppy pfix=ram
At desktop select install icon
Select button to run Universal installer
Do a full install of Slacko to the same location as the none working full install.
Very important
During the setup for the full install you will get option to upgrade
Choose that option upgrade
Do nothing to bootloader. Old settings will still work.
When installer is finished remove CD
Reboot to the full install.
(Because you where running the live CD, it will ask about making a save file. Say no.)
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It was all working fine until one day a couple of weeks ago X crashed and then failed to start -

Could have caused some file system corruption.
So do this also.
Boot with the Puppy live CD
Use boot option puppy pfix=ram
Select console on desktop
Run a file system check on partition Puppy is installed to.

File system check at terminal
Drive to be checked must be unmounted.
Drive id to reflect what drive to check.
Type this code in console.
Hit enter.

e2fsck /dev/sda2

Reboot to full install after running file system check.
Remove CD prior to reboot.
( because running Puppy from live CD it will ask about making save file. Say no )

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