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#421 Post by Gnuxo »

I was trying to install Pyroom. And when installing libfontconfig, e17 would crash periodically.

Two times I tried uninstalling and reinstalling libfontconfig1 and e17 crashed.

Also when I tried a .pet of Focus Writer, saving my work would cause everything to freeze and nothing would respond. Except trying to switch x sessions through ctrl+alt+f2/3/4...etc;

In which I case I found that switching x sessions into the tty was not possible due to the login.

I finally got a .pet of pyroom that works so I'm fine now but it's still sad how e17 crashes. I hope that bug will be fixed in newer versions of e17.

Speaking of which? I was wondering about Macpupv2.

Is that mainly a development version? Or a final?

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#422 Post by runtt21 »

It's unusual for a crash like that. When that happens in macpup it's because a .pet has something in it that is already in use and then tries to overwrite it during the install. Where do you get these .pets?

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#423 Post by Gnuxo »

The puppy package manager.

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#424 Post by runtt21 »

Are you using the ubuntu repos? I can't find those at ibiblio

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#425 Post by Gnuxo »

Yeah, the ubuntu repos.

Unfortunately. I needed plenty of dependencies for the install. Luckily I found a pet which didn't need that many.

Would be nice if the PPM had a autoremove feature for those unneeded dependencies.

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#426 Post by runtt21 »

Another new theme . The MP528-Lucax-4.pet is now in the macpup 528 folder on my macpup page. Enjoy !! The wallpaper is animated Logo and text fade in and out on mouse over.

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[url]http://macpup.org/runtt21[/url]

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#427 Post by Roger Hunter »

Hi;

I've tried both 525 and 528 on my P4 running XP with no luck.

525 just fails and 528 stops at a grub prompt.

I have no idea how to proceed, being a complete dunce with Linux but I have installed and run nearly every puppy around - except these two.

Roger

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#428 Post by runtt21 »

Do either of them make it to this screen? 525's has a different background but the same thing. You do a md5sum on the downloads right?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/ ... enshot.png

The reason I ask is that our .iso's use the stage2 grub bootloader to boot the cd. Cause we like a pretty boot screen. Once in a while a computer dosen't like it and the cd wont make it to that screen. If you didn't get there I will need to explain a work around.
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#429 Post by Karl Godt »

runtt21 wrote:Another new theme . The MP528-Lucax-4.pet is now in the macpup 528 folder on my macpup page. Enjoy !! The wallpaper is animated Logo and text fade in and out on mouse over.

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Just my taste ! :COOL:

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For Grub people have to watch out when they SWAP OR ADD HDDs,
GRUB keeps part of it's syntax
especially for hd0

but the kernel not !

If HDD-0 becomes HDD-1 but bootorder is HDD-1 first,
Grub in HDD-1 still thinks it is on hd0
but the kernel needs root=/dev/sdbX instead of /dev/sdaX .

Otherwise Grub may recognize the new order for new HDD-1 and HDD-2 so root (1,1) may have to be root(2,1) for File not found error .

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#430 Post by runtt21 »

@Karl did you try the silk-4 theme?

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#431 Post by Roger Hunter »

No, I get a black screen with a grub prompt. Seems to be a bash prompt.

Roger

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#432 Post by Karl Godt »

No, I get a black screen with a grub prompt. Seems to be a bash prompt.

Roger
Then apparently (hdx,y)/boot/grub/stage2 is found
which is actually something like /usr/sbin/grub
with few more internal functions/commands or help output ,

but /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing .
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]
grub> help configfile
configfile: configfile FILE
Load FILE as the configuration file.
So :
grub> configfile (hda,b)/path/to/menu.lst

could do it if menu.lst is somewhere .

To find menu.lst :

grub> find /boot/grub/menu.lst
(hd0,1)
(hd0,2)
(hd0,5)
(hd1,1)
(hd1,2)
(hd1,5)
(hd1,7)
(hd2,1)


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Runtt21 : Silk4 is running on 511 (with a lot of F1 Recover xmessage s without the funny TUT TUT TUT fix your code error messages in xerrs.log :) ... hmmm seems i have to fill up -lfridge with liquids :lol: ) .

The fading of the logo is awesome !!

Next might be to put it somewhere probably to the lower right corner

like the logo placement in A-Plat-Red-Macpup theme,
that i managed to make it scale by adjusting the .edc file a little ..
devil os, wont edje_decc now, seems i have to open all older themes
and make an archive of them to be able to _cc them on later e17s ...

[edit]
edje_decc for Silk-4 goes but edje_cc not :
# edje_cc default.edc ../MP-Silk-4-511.edj
ERR:EDJE_CC edje_cc_parse.c:115 new_object() edje_cc: Error. <stdin>:13555 unhandled keyword min

So the internal words have changed or more have been added to newer enlightrenment svn s or edje version 1.0|1.1|1.2 ..
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#433 Post by Karl Godt »

MP528-Lucax-4.pet also with the fading/shading logo runs well on MP511 contrary to MP528-Silk-4 :
:D

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Boot failure

#434 Post by Roger Hunter »

Karl;

grub> find /boot/grub/menu.lst

gives me

File not found

It should be on the CD but I don't know what the CD drive is called in Linux.
For that matter it should find it there anyway since that's what it's booting from.

Roger

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#435 Post by Karl Godt »

Roger, as far as i know, the live cd/iso uses a different grub :

How to have a graphical GRUB (Updated Package Available)

by CatDude :?:

Might be its' syntax is different and probably does not get the DRIVES syntax right . I don't boot the live cds often, nearly never, cos i am using Full Installations of Macpup_Foxy_3 and -Opera_2 as my main OSs together with a Lupu-511 development preview and Macpup511 once a while . Newer Pups i usually boot frugal from HDD by installing "manually" . There had been times when people had been too stupid to find the menu.lst and now the puppyinstaller should open the menu.lst by default. That feature was added i think later than Lupu-5.1.1 , so Macpup-528 should have that .

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#436 Post by Roger Hunter »

by CatDude :?:

There had been times when people had been too stupid to find the menu.lst and now the puppyinstaller should open the menu.lst by default. That feature was added i think later than Lupu-5.1.1 , so Macpup-528 should have that .
That would be me all right but MacPup isn't finding it either.

Roger

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#437 Post by Karl Godt »

Sorry to say that, but somehow you seem to simply have no menu.lst anywhere on the installed drives . I would suggest to post this in the Users Section of the forum, maybe forum member rsnsn51 or whatever his name may recognize you . There are stickies also in the Beginner Section for installation .

I suggest to post there because it involves to post a lot of diagnostic output about your drive(s) setup .

Cheers

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#438 Post by Roger Hunter »

Karl Godt wrote:Sorry to say that, but somehow you seem to simply have no menu.lst anywhere on the installed drives . I would suggest to post this in the Users Section of the forum, maybe forum member rsnsn51 or whatever his name may recognize you . There are stickies also in the Beginner Section for installation .

I suggest to post there because it involves to post a lot of diagnostic output about your drive(s) setup .

Cheers
Ok, but that shouldn't matter. it should be on the CD at the very least.

I just booted up Racy5.2.2 without a hitch from the CD.

Roger

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#439 Post by Karl Godt »

[edit]
It is not too long ago since runtt21 responded to a similar happening (3 month ago):http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 784#616784
Very rarely the stage 2 grub boot loader we use wont like someone's hardware and it will give a promp like what you are saying
Guessing the burn of multiple .iso to a multi boot dvd of some magazines might not work in some circumstanes
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Thats odd !

The live cd uses normally a cpio archive, which has here a name called "bottom"

if i cat ../cpio -d -i it, i get a menu.lst called gfxboot.cfg which should run normally the bootsplash screen :
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#440 Post by Roger Hunter »

HA!

Found the problem.

Menu.lst is right where it should be but there's nothing in it.

Now what?

Roger

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