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Fatdog64-600b1

#41 Post by Billtoo »

I used the fatdog installer to install fatdog to an 8gb flash
drive,checked the small initrd box.
I then used grub4dos 1.8 to install the boot loader to the flash drive.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4045MB (366MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Fatdog64 [bb155f4388]
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Fri Jun 15 12:04:37 2012
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Input Devices
Power Button
Power Button
Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0
Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0
Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v8.0
PC Speaker

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.59
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
32084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6416.749 FPS
32106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6421.148 FPS
32083 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6416.583 FPS

Working great so far. :)
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#42 Post by rcrsn51 »

tronkel wrote:What I have locally installed is the DEBBI printer installer DEB as originally built by rcrsn51.This may well be the cause of the problem?
Probably. It was built with the old PET packaging system.

I will update it.

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#43 Post by tronkel »

@rcrsn51

Sorry it was a PET package not a DEB you made - silly me!

Thanks for the prompt reply and the offer to rebuild it for FATDOG.

Best regards

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#44 Post by rcrsn51 »

tronkel wrote:Sorry it was a PET package not a DEB you made
Debbi is a PET package. In any case, I have repackaged it here with the newer PET packaging format.

Could you test it in FD600? I'm assuming that you are installing a 32-bit Brother driver.

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#45 Post by nooby »

Ooops so sorry I asked a Q in the other older thread for Alpha 1
and this is for Beta 1
I will move the text here and indicated this?
I Set it up as easy as I could so maybe
the grub4dos menu.lst is too simple?

title fatdog
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /fatdog/initrd
kernel /fatdog/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 psubdir=fatdog pfix=fsck
initrd /fatdog/initrd


It reported it could not find a certain file but it went by
too fast for me to read. Anyway I am using it now but it
fail to make use of simplfied html files. Could be the browser
being too picky and unrelated to fat dog as such.

But I found not way to install firefox on it. No ppm.

Am one supposed to do some apt-get or what?
that simplified html file that I use as my "home page"
lies on my sda2 file and have tested it on some 25 different
OS and many many puppies and only fatdog with this SM
failed to read it. So that where odd.
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#46 Post by tronkel »

Yes, the reason for using it is to install the Brother DCP7030 driver. Brother only provides a 32 driver version for the printer component of this multi-function device. The scanner driver is provided as 32 bit and 64 bit versions though.

Thanks for doing this. I'll test this in fd-64600B1 over the weekend and let you know how it goes.

Thanks again.

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#47 Post by rcrsn51 »

I just tested this with my HL2070N.

1. I fixed the CUPS backend permissions.

2. I hooked in the 32-bit compat pack and did the CUPS start32 setup.

3. I downloaded and debbi'd the two Brother driver packages.

4. The USB printer that was auto-installed worked OOTB.

The 32-bit Brother setup is much simpler than the Canon.

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Re: Fatdog64-600b1

#48 Post by Jim1911 »

Billtoo wrote: OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.59
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
32084 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6416.749 FPS
32106 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6421.148 FPS
32083 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6416.583 FPS

Working great so far. :)
Billtoo, what's your secret for installing the NVIDIA driver? When I execute

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sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run
it naturally complains about the nouveau driver being in use. Every time I try to get rid of it I manage to trash the save file when I delete nouveau files. Xorgwizard-old only allows selection of proper resolution, option to choose the vesa driver never appears. Putting "pfix=vesa" in my menu.lst and rebooting after deleting nouveau files also trashes the save file. So I wind up having to restore the save file with the nouveau driver. :( What file do I need to edit so that vesa will be selected?

Thanks,
Jim

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01micko's get_libreoffice-0.16.pet

#49 Post by Jim1911 »

01micko's "get_libreoffice-0.16.pet" successfully creates a sfs of LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 which works great including printing.
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#50 Post by 01micko »

Re Printing:

So I fixed permissions:

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# chmod 0500 /usr/lib64/cups/backend/*
and added the tiff symlink, did nothing else and I can print and so can unprivileged user. I didn't need to reinstall the printer,

/dev/usb/lp0 still is the same as before crw-rw---- or 660. I guess if I switched back the group from lpadmin to root in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf I'd need to reinstall the printer? I'm happy with it as is and I learned something!

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#51 Post by rcrsn51 »

@01micko: Good news! The latest release of Gutenprint supports your Canon MP490. I have posted the 64-bit version for FD600 here.

So you don't need the 32-bit compatibility stuff.

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#52 Post by kirk »

Thanks rcrsn51. Could you test this pet? I compiled it to be smaller.

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Re: Fatdog64-600b1

#53 Post by Billtoo »

Jim1911 wrote:Billtoo, what's your secret for installing the NVIDIA driver? When I execute

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sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run
it naturally complains about the nouveau driver being in use. Every time I try to get rid of it I manage to trash the save file when I delete nouveau files. Xorgwizard-old only allows selection of proper resolution, option to choose the vesa driver never appears. Putting "pfix=vesa" in my menu.lst and rebooting after deleting nouveau files also trashes the save file. So I wind up having to restore the save file with the nouveau driver. :( What file do I need to edit so that vesa will be selected?

Thanks,
Jim
Hi jim,

When the installer warns about the nouveau driver it then offers to
try to remove it, I answer yes to that, and then hit enter once
more to get back to the prompt.
Once back at the prompt I enter reboot, after rebooting and getting
back to the desktop I exit to the prompt again and rerun the Nvidia
installer, once it has finished I answer yes when it asks to update
the xorg.conf.
Now just enter xwin to get back to the desktop and the driver is
working.

The screen is a little garbled when running the Nvidia installer so
it's pretty hard to see the prompts, I always say no when it asks to
install the 32 bit compatability stuff.

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Re: Fatdog64-600b1

#54 Post by jamesbond »

Billtoo wrote:The screen is a little garbled when running the Nvidia installer so
it's pretty hard to see the prompts
:lol: So I'm not the only one.
I always say no when it asks to
install the 32 bit compatability stuff.
Yes, this is important. /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 points to the same location, so if you install 32-bit library it will bork your installation. Always say "no" when asked about 32-bit library.
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#55 Post by jamesbond »

01micko wrote:Re Printing:

So I fixed permissions:

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# chmod 0500 /usr/lib64/cups/backend/*
and added the tiff symlink, did nothing else and I can print and so can unprivileged user. I didn't need to reinstall the printer,

/dev/usb/lp0 still is the same as before crw-rw---- or 660. I guess if I switched back the group from lpadmin to root in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf I'd need to reinstall the printer? I'm happy with it as is and I learned something!

Thanks
Mine was mode 0600 (default because udev rule doesn't specify settings for the mode), owned by root:lp (as it should be, as specified by udev rule). When the backend mode are set to 0500, they all will run as root, so non-root device discovery/printing should be okay.

I still don't understand what SystemGroup is for, I've read and re-read the doc a couple of times, but still don't get it :oops:
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#56 Post by jamesbond »

Jim1911 wrote:Xorgwizard-old only allows selection of proper resolution, option to choose the vesa driver never appears
Correct.
Putting "pfix=vesa" in my menu.lst and rebooting after deleting nouveau files also trashes the save file{/quote] :shock: It shouldn't do that. All it does is delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace it with a copy that has vesa driver in it.
. So I wind up having to restore the save file with the nouveau driver. :( What file do I need to edit so that vesa will be selected?
Have you tried pfix=vesa,xorgwizard?
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#57 Post by rcrsn51 »

kirk wrote:Thanks rcrsn51. Could you test this pet? I compiled it to be smaller.
Looks good.

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#58 Post by jamesbond »

nooby wrote:I Set it up as easy as I could so maybe
the grub4dos menu.lst is too simple?

title fatdog
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /fatdog/initrd
kernel /fatdog/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 psubdir=fatdog pfix=fsck
initrd /fatdog/initrd
Boot parameters have changed, please read the FAQ. The equivalent to the above is:
kernel /fatdog/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sda2:/fatdog/fd64save.ext4
It reported it could not find a certain file but it went by
too fast for me to read
Probably saying it can't find the savefile, which is okay.
But I found not way to install firefox on it. No ppm.
PPM is inside Control Panel - System :) Firefox is in the package repository.
that simplified html file that I use as my "home page"
lies on my sda2 file and have tested it on some 25 different
OS and many many puppies and only fatdog with this SM
failed to read it. So that where odd.
Fatdog runs the browser as spot. Spot does not have access to your sda2 (by design). If you don't like this, edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and change "seamonkey-spot" to just "seamonkey".
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#59 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:Mine was mode 0600 (default because udev rule doesn't specify settings for the mode), owned by root:lp (as it should be, as specified by udev rule). When the backend mode are set to 0500, they all will run as root, so non-root device discovery/printing should be okay.
For the vast majority of printer setups, this is a non-issue. The old Patriot Canon PETs auto-install a printer using /dev/usb/lp0, so permissions can be a problem. But if you let CUPS install the printer, it does it correctly.

The 32-bit Brother drivers also do an auto-install, but they get it right. None of my 64-bit printer driver PETs in the repo do an auto-install.

FWIW, I took 55-cups.rules out of a regular Puppy and inserted it into 54-fatdog-permissions.rules. This gave /dev/usb/lp* a more general ownership/permission and all the problems went away, including the 0500 backend issue.

But this may violate the security model you want for FD.

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#60 Post by jamesbond »

rcrsn51 wrote:FWIW, I took 55-cups.rules out of a regular Puppy and inserted it into 54-fatdog-permissions.rules. This gave /dev/usb/lp* a more general ownership/permission and all the problems went away, including the 0500 backend issue.

But this may violate the security model you want for FD.
Thanks, I'll take a look, but I guess it will grant mode 0666 for all lp* device nodes. There used to be 55-puppy-default.rules that sets mode 0660 to *all* devices; I modified it when I started multi-user work (that file still lives on as 55-fatdog-action.rules but the part that manages permission is commented out). As you say, there is no point of running as non-root when non-root users can access (and possible screw up) every thing just like root does :wink:
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