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Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Hi all,

I've been building my own Puppy, I've started over 5 times, and I guess I finally have some clarity about what I want to accomplish...

I have switched to XFCE in Lucid 5.2.0, and I love almost everything about it, but it makes a bit of a mess of the drop-down menus.

Is there a menu editing .pet for Lucid? I've seen one for the 4. series, or is there clear directions posted somewhere about how to edit and clean up your menus?

Mainly I'm looking to clean up the drop-down menus on the desktop (right-click) but the bottom left menu button as well.

Thanks. Even though I've become a pretty competent Puppy user, this is all new territory to me... Embarassed

Eathray

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Well, I've made a little bit of progress. I'll post about it when I'm further along, but I could still use some input from some of you guys more knowledgeable than myself about customizing the desktop.

One thing I've learned is that xfce combines several menu lists, so editing one doesn't cut it. I have to find them all. I've found two so far, and I also found out that lxmed will edit the xfce side of the menu... but not the jwm side. I'm going to dumb jwm eventually since xfce can do everything alone, but I don't want to do that until I have everything set up in xfce first.

I'll post again. Input, please. I know most of you have a lot more know how than I do.

Thanks,

Eathray

disciple · Posted: Sat 16 Jun 2012, 08:15 Post_subject:

I don't really understand how or why you can have both an xfce menu and a jwm menu. Are you running the full XFCE? Or just the taskbar or something?

Normally you wouldn't edit the start menu on Linux, because it is all arranged into nice logical categories. But if you do want to edit it, you can change individual menu entries by editing the .desktop files (normally in /usr/share/applications; this is what lxmed does), and you edit the menu structure by editing the files in /etc/xdg/menus

Some window managers like JWM require you to run `fixmenus` and then restart them (or reboot) before you see any changes.

smokey01 · Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1737 Location: South Australia

Eathray try this:
http://www.smokey01.com/saluki/pet_packages-saluki/xmenumaker-2.0.pet

This is what jemimah uses in Saluki and it uses the XFCE window manager.

Worth a try.

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

This is what I got when I tried to launch xmenumaker from the terminal a couple times:

[img]file:///root/my-documents/clipart/xmenumaker-terminal-results.png[/img]

hopefully I did that right Embarassed

Eathray

disciple · Posted: Sat 16 Jun 2012, 13:04 Post_subject:

gtkdialog is probably somewhere else like /usr/bin - check by running `which gtkdialog`.
You can either make a symlink to it in /usr/sbin, or edit the xmenumaker script to use the correct path.

smokey01 · Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1737 Location: South Australia

It may also be possible that the gtkdialog is too old. I think jemimah is using a later version in Saluki.
gtkdialog version 0.8.0 (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011 Thunor

disciple · Posted: Sat 16 Jun 2012, 21:21 Post_subject:

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Disciple and Smokey,

Okay, thanks guys. here's what I found:

In user/bin all I found was 'gtkdialog-splash.'

When I run the command: 'xmenumaker which gtkdialog' I got the following reply: /usr/sbin/xmenumaker

In user/sbin I found 'gtkdialog2' and 'gtkdialog3' but no 'gtkdialog.' 'xmenumaker' is also there, an executable file.

What if I make a blank file called 'gtkdialog' and symlink it to 'gtkdialog2?' Would that work?

Eathray

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Additional:

I just ran pfind and all I got is gtkdialog2 and gtkdialog3 with various files associated... no gtkdialog.

Eathray

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 446

Okay, how 'bout this... Can you guys help me organize my thoughts?

Here's a pic of what I'm dealing with:

See below attachment... pic was too wide to paste

You notice that the drop-down menu on the left does not seem to correspond with what lxmed lists as the catagories (middle).

I don't understand why there's such a dramatic difference aside from xfce is not utilizing it's own list of catagories... is jwm still running that show, or is xfce inter-mixing various lists as the xfce site suggests?

If I were to simply dump jwm, would xfce use it's own list?

Thanks

Eathray[/i]

smokey01 · Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1737 Location: South Australia

I'm pretty sure they look different because the source files are different and have no relationships.

I don't know much about xfce but it should come with some sort of gui to help you manage the menus. I'm sure saluki does anyway. It might we worth having a look at saluki to check.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

disciple · Posted: Sun 17 Jun 2012, 20:47 Post_subject: