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ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

Regarding Unetbootin failing, let's try a couple things:

A little more detailed description than it doesn't work would help - exactly what happens during the boot process?
double-check the md5 of the iso that you downloaded - the correct md5 is in the first post, a bad md5 could potentially cause a lot of these issues
disable AV while you're installing on the thumb drive with unetbootin
Validate that unetbootin successfully copied files to your USB - the files should be the same as what's on the iso plus a couple additional files.
try a different USB installer: Pendrive Linux

RayCtech · Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 31

@ldolse,

When trying to verify the various issues on the Gigabyte motherboard I become ´lost´ and investigated much more closely and discovered several issues that have influenced my previous results.

1. Connecting to tunes.local is obviously strange vs. version 1.7 and 1.7.1 of MPoD/MPaD,
and in 1.7 tunes.local or IP works as MPD server,
in 1.7.1 I do not know what works as after 1.7.1 have connected once,
then I can remove the server name or put anything there ???.
2. I figured out that I could not boot from CD / USB Flash on the two different systems directly,
and compare valid results due to the way mpdPup uses savefiles.
3. On the Gigabyte board I then re-partitioned and formatted the local SATA drive partition
mpdPup used for save/load, and created a new Sony 4GB USB flash with Unetbootin.
I then re-partioned and formatted the imation 16GB USB flash and used Unetbootin once more.
I disconnected the internal SATA drive to be sure nothing influenced.
This time I only tested on the Gigabyte system.
The Sony 4GB (bought new for the test) boots and mpd starts with ´nice -15´ in the 20.mpd file.
The imation 16GB hangs in the boot before/during loading SYSLINUX.
4. Thus the Unetbootin problem is related to the USB flash devices - some work - some don´t.
5. On the Gigabyte board X works and mpd starts and tunes.local work with static IP if the MPoD/MPaD version is 1.7,
and not if the version is 1.7.1.
6. Then the difference between the Atom DN2800MT board and the Gigabyte is:
On the Atom DN2800MT X works randomly and keyboard/mouse randomly stop working in X,
mpd do not start with ´nice -15´ in the 20.mpd file.

The strange thing is that the Atom DN2800MT have worked with Voyage MPD and various other Linux (both 32bit and 64bit) and various X desktops, and the only issue have been that X sometimes started in only 1024x768.
In addition to the imation USB flash I started to use another 16GB device that was a working boot device that did not work with Unetbootin - before I switched to the imation and then to the new Sony device.

My conclusion is: The Atom DN2800MT board is useless with mpdPup,
and that only the STATIC IP/DHCP and tunes.local issue needs to be looked into.
And that the tunes.local functionality is complicated by the way MPoD/MPaD works and works different in different releases.
For me the upgrade to MPoD/MPaD 1.7.1 simultaneously with testing mpdPup have caused a lot of confusion.
Luckily I have one old iPod 32GB that was not upgraded so I could discover the strange/buggy behavior of the 1.7.1 version...

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

Glad to see we're making progress.

RayCtech · Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 31

RayCtech · Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 31

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

I can't tell if the latest Intel drivers are included in the kernel - I'll create a test build with the latest 2D drivers and run it by you to see if it fixes things.

bonalux · Joined: 20 Jun 2012 Posts: 20

Hi Idolse, there is any project on compiling Mpdpup for the Raspberry Pi board? It has an ARM processor and all the things necessary to run an Mpd server, not to mention the ridicoulous low cost Wink

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Link: www.raspberrypi.org

Thank you.

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

Hi, right now I'm not working on ARM at all, as there is no officially released variant of Puppy Linux for ARM at this time. That said, if you want to keep an eye on ARM development you can watch the main Puppy dev blog here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/
As you can see there from recent posts, Barry has been working on ARM support - specifically around Raspberri Pi, and when he says it's ready I may go after a release of mpdPup based on that work.

That said I really want to make mpdPup into a proper version controlled release that is easy for others to contribute to, and I haven't seen an easy route to doing that if I follow the main branch of Puppy development. An alternate build platform I've been considering is based on the work of another Puppy Linux dev (Iguleder), and you can keep track of his work on this site:
http://www.dimakrasner.com/roar-ng/
I haven't played with roar-ng/subito yet, but I've been watching it with interest - the build system is theoretically capable of supporting ARM and Intel, and it's hosted on Github so it should be pretty easy to spin off a variant which is easy to contribute to. I suspect it needs more work for Linux neophytes though, so I've been waiting until it's a bit further developed.

Douwe01nl · Joined: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 14

Hi Idolse, a question about nrpacks=20 which sounds so great.
I didn't succeed implementing it automatically. I tried two ways:

1: options snd-usb-audio nrpacks=20 to the end of the file alsa-base.conf
2: sticking an init script in /etc/init.d/

QUOTE
something like this:
#!/bin/sh

case "$1" in
start)
modprobe -r snd-usb-audio
modprobe snd-usb-audio nrpacks=20
;;
esac
And name is something like 00.usbnrpacks, so it's executed before mpd.
UNQUOTE

I still have to do it by hand each time.
Any ideas?

Douwe01nl · Joined: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 14

@Walter
Maybe here you can find a way to set lower cpu-frequency in linux in stead of bios.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

wlowes · Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Toronto, Canada

Thanks Douwe01nl. I'll do some digging into the cpu frequency options.

i2k · Joined: 22 Jun 2012 Posts: 24

Hi Idolse,

First of all, thanks for this wonderful release. I have zero knowledge on Linux and I can make the puppy sing, so it shows how easy to use mpdpup.

I cannot comment yet on the SQ as I only tested it with onboard sound card & a headphone, but I'm sure it's got potential. My amps & speakers are currently away, I'll post my comments on SQ once they're back.

Some question :
How to make the server poweroff by push the power button ?
Where is the alsa configuration file ?
How to make the name of my flash USB boot device and ext USB hard disk permanent ? (eg: flash boot device always as "sdb1" & ext hdd always "sda1")

Like I said, I'm a total noob so pls bear with me.

Thanks

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 358

Hi i2k, glad you were able to get things up and running easily enough.

i2k · Joined: 22 Jun 2012 Posts: 24

Wow, that was very fast reply. Thanks a lot.

I understand pressing the power button for a few second will force the machine to turn off, but a more "elegant" shutdown would be nicer, but I understand your reason. BTW, I uses Intel Atom D410 board with 1 GB RAM powered by PicoPSU, it's 100% silent.

I notice that after the prompt appears after a reboot / power on, it takes several second before MPD starts to update the database & starting, is that normal ?

Do mpdpup able to stream music ? I tried to stream music with MPdroid client on a Samsung Gio android but there was no sound. I don't know if it was a problem of the server or the client.

The reason why I asked how to permanently named the USB devices is because sometimes my boot flash disk named as sdb1 and ext USB hdd as sda1 and the other time could be the other way around.

Last, I really interested to buy Soundgraph Imon. What will be displayed by this thing ?

Thanks & greetings from Indonesia.