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smokey01


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 06:49    Post subject: Re: getnvidia-0.2-64  
shinobar wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
I couldn't even get graphics to work after I tried. Had to delete the savefile and start again.

Right.
If i cannot get the desktop at boot, i type next 2 commands on console:
Code:
# rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# xwin




I tried that and it didn't help. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 07:09    Post subject:  
Small problem but annoying.

Note the drive sequence on the attached.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 07:23    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:
Small problem but annoying.

Note the drive sequence on the attached.

Thanks, fixed for next release. If you want to fix it now, edit /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-start.sh, line 13, change:

for p in $(ls /sys/class/block | grep -vE '^loop|^ram|^nbd'); do

to

for p in $(ls /sys/class/block | grep -vE '^loop|^ram|^nbd' | sort -V); do

cheers.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 07:49    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:
Sylvander my FD64-600b1 boots from grub to desktop in 10 seconds. It takes about 3 more sec to show the 10 drive icons.

Will look again at Fatdog as it boots, and see what it's doing NOW.
Still getting to grips with this new PC.
So much to do.
Information overload on this thread alone.

Nooby's point is taken/understood.
Got to get Psip working.
Got it set up in Slacko, but no-one logged in at 12-noon Sun 24th June?
Apparently my sound isn't working. Cannot hear anything.
64-bit version available for Fatdog?

How should I rerun the sound setup in Psip when I missed my 1st chance?
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 09:57    Post subject: getnvidia-0.3-64  
shinobar wrote:
the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist,conf is cleared after boot. Who and when?

There is a time race between the load_sfs.sh and the rc.nvidia(.copy).
OK, fixed for now: was not persistent the nvidia graphics.

getnvidia-0.3-64.pet, NVIDIA driver installer/PET/SFS builder.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/fatdog/
You need fd64-devx_600.sfs . Required internet connection.
Recommended to build with new pupsave, 512MB or larger. I am not quite sure but If your RAM is less than 640MB, needs 500MB swap.
  1. Install the getnvidia.
  2. Run the getnvidia from the main menu > Setup.
  3. Reboot PC. You need to save the session if you have not yet.
  4. Install the devx package
  5. Exit X, go down to the console.
  6. Type 'getnvidia'.

NVIDIA Graphics tip is not essential to build (thanks to pemasu). You can build on another PC if the target PC has not enough power and/or internet connection.
But one problem when you use the sfs built on other PC:
DO NOT right click or choose from the offered when the first time after making save file.
Launch the sfs loader from the control panel and tick on the permanent load when you load the SFS.
I am not used to the FD64, so hope someone find more simple way for the persistent sfs load.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:13    Post subject: Re: getnvidia-0.2-64  
smokey01 wrote:
It appears the Nvidia package in your script is pointing to the wrong location. The modem appears to be downloading but after 10 minutes I killed the script.

Did it say 'Downloading...'?
Before the 'Download' message, it performs ldconfig.
I realized the 'ldconfig' sometime hungs up, or takes too long time.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:29    Post subject: Re: getnvidia-0.2-64  
shinobar wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
It appears the Nvidia package in your script is pointing to the wrong location. The modem appears to be downloading but after 10 minutes I killed the script.

Did it say 'Downloading...'?
Before the 'Download' message, it performs ldconfig.
I realized the 'ldconfig' sometime hungs up, or takes too long time.


It did say Downloading but when I examined your script it look like the wrong location, or a different location to where I normally download the source.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:33    Post subject:  
I've just noticed Picasa is no longer supported for Linux.

Does anyone know of a good replacement.

Shotwell looks interesting, lots of dependencies though.

Geeqie is nice but it doesn't have email capability, well not the last time I looked.

I just can't get my head around fotoxx, maybe I should look a bit closer.

TIA
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:58    Post subject: Re: getnvidia-0.2-64  
smokey01 wrote:
It did say Downloading but when I examined your script it look like the wrong location, or a different location to where I normally download the source.

To see what URL the script will download from, type (if you have getnvidia):
Code:
ndivia-installer -l

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 13:30    Post subject:  
Looked again at Fatdog bootup.
1. Loading initrd takes 65 seconds to load.

2. The sda5/Fatdog/sd64save.ext3 file isn't found, therefore not used. Sad
Not good!
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 13:44    Post subject:  
Quote:
Looked again at Fatdog bootup.
1. Loading initrd takes 65 seconds to load.

2. The sda5/Fatdog/sd64save.ext3 file isn't found, therefore not used. Sad
Not good!


65 seconds when booting from CD would be in the range of normal.

Fatdog64-600 will only automatically load a save file named fd64save from the root of a partition. To use a different file name or location you will need to specify that at boot. Here's some examples from the FAQs - Boot options:

Quote:
Some examples:


savefile=direct:device:sda1 --- use savefile named fd64save.ext4 located in root directory of /dev/sda1, save directly to it
savefile=ram:device:sda2:/fd600/fd64save.3fs --- use savefile named fd64save.3fs located in /fd600 directory of /dev/sda2, use RAM layer
savefile=ram:usb --- use savefile named fd64save.ext4 located in root directory of the first found usb device, use RAM layer
savefile=direct:multi --- use multisession on device /dev/sr0


So you would want to use:

savefile=direct:device:sda5:/Fatdog/sd64save.ext3
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 15:13    Post subject:  
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kirk wrote:
65 seconds when booting from CD would be in the range of normal.

(a) I don't think any other Puppy I've EVER run has taken this long to load... Sad
Not even on my OLD 2003 hardware.
Or is it just unusual to be waiting for a single file that takes that long?

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kirk wrote:
Fatdog64-600 will only automatically load a save file named fd64save from the root of a partition.

This did the trick. Very Happy
Moved the file to the root folder, and deleted the Fatdog folder...
And at bootup it found and used the sda5/sd64save.ext3 file. Cool
Would be nice if I could put it inside its own folder just like the other Puppies.
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BHINTZ

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 15:29    Post subject:  
I have loaded Iron.sfs and get a warning that I am running as root and I have been warned, but the browser does activate. I tried running in terminal as root and get some message about C. I tried as spot and get a message about libORBit.....

Can someone give a clue how to use this browser?

Much appreciated,

bob
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 17:08    Post subject:  
Sylvander wrote:
Would be nice if I could put it inside its own folder just like the other Puppies.

Kirk explained how to do that above.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 17:29    Post subject:  
Any opinions for Fatdog.
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/8-of-the-best-photo-managers-for-linux-692441#articleContent
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