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From XP can I run Puppy from USB stick w/o USB_Boot option?
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
If I put Puppy Linux on a USB stick (using this or some other method: http://voices.yahoo.com/how-install-puppy-linux-onto-usb-flash-drive-2250648.html), is there some way I can run PL on a PC that has XP installed, but without needing to make changes to XP's files? The PC has no FDD, no working DVD, and has no "boot from USB" option in its boot sequence. I have in mind booting to Windows, then going to the command line and typing something that causes magic to happen and Puppy Linux to run. 
I'm away from home and fretting without my Puppy. 
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dk60902
 Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Posts: 199 Location: In front of my computer |
You can try this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16822/boot-from-a-usb-drive-even-if-your-bios-wont-let-you/) http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/plpbt.bin.html) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78880) If you have a working CD drive, you can burn this iso. When you start up the computer, you'll come to a menu that will allow booting from a USB stick. |
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
Sorry. It has no CD or DVD drive. |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2980 Location: Sydney Australia |
For a start... Copy the XP root files with Puppy. I call the folder >>> System XP This gives you a backup to copy back to if you stuff up. """""""""""" I always Copy >>> NOT MOVE....these XP >>> root files. AUTOEXEC.BAT boot.ini CONFIG.SYS IO.SYS MSDOS.SYS NTDETECT.COM ntldr :::: Edit the >>> boot.ini Save it Nooby has these. I saw something this morning here.... I will try and find it and edit this later. I think it was a >> bigpup post. Open up the Puppy ISO in Windows >> with 7ZIP..... http://www.7-zip.org/ To a folder on your hard drive. 7 Zip properly >> extracts the files properly in lower case. Chris. |
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dk60902
Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Posts: 199 Location: In front of my computer |
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dk60902
Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Posts: 199 Location: In front of my computer |
It may be worth to try the lin n' win http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step01-4steps.htm |
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rcrsn51
 Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 7834 Location: Stratford, Ontario |
If you don't have any other working boot device, I think that the answer is "no". |
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Monsie
 Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 470 Location: Kamloops BC Canada |
Shep, Have a look at this article: http://agnipulse.com/2009/11/linux-live-usb-creator/ It just might be the solution you are looking for. Apparently, it's known to work with Puppy LInux. Monsie _________________ My username is pronounced: "mun-see". Derived from my surname, it was my nickname throughout high school. |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2980 Location: Sydney Australia |
Here is a way perhaps. How to multi-boot puppy from xp (frugal install into XP) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75257 As noted....defrag Windows first. I only use a 256 Save file if I'm not installing much... A browser and Flash etc. Others have different opinions. If the save file is working properly.... back it up to another folder. Use >> Copy.....never >>> move """""""""""" I read you....no Floppy option... This is for those that do. no "boot from USB" option PLOP where usb can't work. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78880 Chris. |
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Shep
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 840 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA |
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BDX
 Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
I say go for the lin'n'win.........i use it all the time 
_________________ Puppy linux fact:Life is experiments......Download and try,Don't search and cry. |
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Shep
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Aitch
 Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK |
Shep Have you considered the possibility of just installing puppy as a windoze program...it can be installed/uninstalled as an .exe file by windoze add/remove programs, leaving the setup as was.... http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404 You can keep a backup save file on a usb stick, but my setup just puts the savefile in the created puppy folder It does modify the windoze boot.ini but is totally and safely reversible, as a backup is automatically created...there is no fumbly user intervention needed to mess it up I have a Slacko 530 PAE-SCSI running happily for 10 months on an old server box....trouble free, apart from a Browser/Flash update needed It's also possible to have multiple puppy versions, as it will just add to the menu.lst. It checks C:\ and C:\boot\grub for a menu.lst, and adds itself to it. Aitch
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ICPUG
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1278 Location: UK |
If the machine does not have the capability to boot from USB you cannot have Puppy Linux on the USB and expect it to boot! All OS have to boot somehow. If your machine has no boot devices then there is no way you can boot anything other than Windows from the hard drive without changing SOMETHING of Windows XP. The key is to make the changes minimal and not upset Windows! 2 ways to go (1) Install grub boot loader (which overwrites MBR of the Windows machine) and then boot your installed Puppy or Windows from grub. (2) Make minor changes to the Windows XP boot mechanism (basically the menu file boot.ini) so that you add the option to boot a frugal install of Puppy. I prefer the latter and Lin'N'Win previously mentioned, (which I wrote), was specifically written to cope with your situation. If the Puppy you want to use has a Windows Installer (so you don't have to follow the procedure referenced by Aitch) then this is the same as Lin'N'Win but done automatically for you. |
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rcrsn51
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 7834 Location: Stratford, Ontario |
That's easy to say. But consider the number of forum posts that start like this: " I really wanted to demo Puppy Linux on my friend's computer. But now his Windows won't start any more. What should I do?" |
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