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KDPUP = KDE 3.5.10 + dpup 484 beta 4
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Gnuxo

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 18:20    Post_subject:  

I don't know where to find an older version of kmplayer. Perhaps the ubuntu lucid repos?

But I found this...

http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/

It's rather out of date and it's development is dead, but it has a browser kpart and seems like it will probably work.
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saintless


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jun 2012, 07:13    Post_subject:  

Gnuxo wrote:
I don't know where to find an older version of kmplayer. Perhaps the ubuntu lucid repos?

I've found Kmplayer V 0.10.0c in lenny packages. You need to install 47 Mb of dependencies to make it work with KDPup. Maybe less if you have time to experiment.
I'm uploading an archive with all needed packages in:
http://www.mydrive.ch/
username: guest@saintless
password: download

The archive is: kmplayer0.10.0c_plus_depend.tar.gz

After the installation KDE will give you an error:
Code:
could not find mime type
application/octet stream

It works anyway but to solve this mime type problem you just have to go to home (/root) directory, show hidden files -> .kde/share/mimelnk/application. Open octet-stream.desktop file with geany and change the line hidden=true to hidden=false and reboot.

To be honest maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the point of replacing flash with much more hungry for RAM and CPU resources application like Kmplayer.
Anyway you can have it working on KDPup-484.

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Gnuxo

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Jun 2012, 22:15    Post_subject:  

I wonder if Kplayer is less resource hungry then Kmplayer. VLC has a browser plugin, and there's a new version of Xine-ui and plugin as well.

Anyway, for youtube, there is Minitunes.

What browser is going to be default?
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 00:43    Post_subject:  

Gnuxo wrote:
What browser is going to be default?

KDPup-484 full version has Firefox 3.6.23 (old version but works fine and uses less RAM than the new ones), Dillo2 and Konqueror 3.5.9. You can choose any of them for default browser.
I don't know if you have noticed this, but KDPup is 2 years old puplet. There is not development intention, but in my opinion it is very good the way it is. Read the first post of this thread.

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Eldes


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 22:02    Post_subject:  

I just installed on one of my pc's.
Works very well on Celeron 2.8 Ghz, 2 GB of RAM (DDRI) & Nvidia FX 5200.

The unique bad point its has old Kernel. But all the rest are really good.
Congrats for making this possible.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 08:14    Post_subject:  

Are lenny repos still accessible? I just did a search for kmplayer in debian packages and it only gave me squeeze as oldest version?

@Eldes glad it works for you too

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gnz11

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:08    Post_subject: great to see people are using kdpup  

if you are updating deps from squeeze you may run into conflicts. the big difference will likely be that the kde deps from squeeze will be for kde4 vs 3.5
unless kde is your highest priority, i might suggest using dejan's dpup 485. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67662

it has updated libs and will run most lucid pets and various from slacko . not counting the 485.pets

plus all pets from series 4. i also have few issues running new software in .deb or tar. tar's get extracted to folder and run from there.

glad to see that people are finding the pup that works without all the kernel and xorg issues.. ;}
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 15:37    Post_subject:  

dejan555 wrote:
Are lenny repos still accessible? I just did a search for kmplayer in debian packages and it only gave me squeeze as oldest version?


Hi, Dejan555,

I have access to lenny repos this way:
I boot from Debian live CD version 500 with i486 kernel and do apt-get update. Then I get lenny packages and most of the programs are older versions.

This are the sources from the live CD sources.list:
Code:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main


Gnz11
, thanks for the information. KDE is my wife priority and I have to obey her wishes Smile This is the only way we can both use the same Puppy linux.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2012, 21:51    Post_subject:  

saintless wrote:
dejan555 wrote:
Are lenny repos still accessible? I just did a search for kmplayer in debian packages and it only gave me squeeze as oldest version?


Hi, Dejan555,

I have access to lenny repos this way:
I boot from Debian live CD version 500 with i486 kernel and do apt-get update. Then I get lenny packages and most of the programs are older versions.

This are the sources from the live CD sources.list:
Code:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main


Gnz11
, thanks for the information. KDE is my wife priority and I have to obey her wishes Smile This is the only way we can both use the same Puppy linux.


And if you need them

Code:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
# Security:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
# Volatile:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free
deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2012, 12:51    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the information, James C.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2012, 19:00    Post_subject:  

saintless wrote:
Gnz11[/b], thanks for the information. KDE is my wife priority and I have to obey her wishes Smile


I did not read all the discussion but only the last page of message. I use Puppy and KDE a lot of time because I also consider KDE as one of my priorities (my wife use Puppy without KDE Laughing because she use Puppy since 2004 without interruption now! and it was not possible to install some parts of KDE in Puppy 1.0 Idea ).

but I use a very long time now Puppy with the KDE 4, not with the KDE 3.5 any more as named in the subject of this discussion.

our problem at this time in Puppy is that Puppy does preserve old methods a very long time and don't follow the actual development in Linux, and as Linux himself don't reach to be really equivalent with Windows, the distance between Windows and Puppy don't become shorter.

it would be a good impulse to concentrate all the energy to acquire a large software base (being easily to find in Slackware as Slackware was all the time consequent KDE fan!) to allow the limitless installation of high performance professional software.

what wish you wife to find in particular in the KDE more than the KDE environment? is she using such stuff like KDE office etc.?
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2012, 20:49    Post_subject:  

oui wrote:
what wish you wife to find in particular in the KDE more than the KDE environment? is she using such stuff like KDE office etc.?

She uses KXStitch 8.3 - the only real linux alternative of PMaker for windows. At first I was able to install it only on Slackware 13 and Ubuntu. I had some troubles to make it work with KDPup. The older version KXStitch 7 was easier to install but it has less options. Now we have 8.3 working.
We use Softmaker Office 2008 mostly.
Konqueror and K3b are also our favorites.
Right mouse button click copy and paste option was one of our needs when we've decided to replace windows with linux.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 08:03    Post_subject:  

Saintless? The "right-copy paste" of which you speak can be easily done with the file manager XFE found in the "Additional Software" section of this forum under "File Managers". Not only that but XFE can be made either a two-pane/three-pane file manager, or can even be made to resemble Windows Explorer with the "directory tree" down the left-hand side of the manager and one pane for files on the right-hand side.

Most of the .pets found on the forum here for XFE likewise contain the extra apps which go with XFE, like a document reader/editor as well as an image viewer, screenshot programme, and more. It may be worth looking into perhaps? I've consistently used it ever since MU introduced me to it nearly 6 years ago now and is the very first thing I install on ANY new linux installation. I couldn't survive without it! Smile

I hope this has helped in some small way?

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:19    Post_subject:  

Eyes-Only wrote:
Saintless? The "right-copy paste" of which you speak can be easily done with the file manager XFE found in the "Additional Software" section of this forum under "File Managers".


Thanks, Eyes-Only, I've found the XFE pet package a few months ago and it is my favorite too. I use it with JWM from time to time, when I feel KDE is to heavy for my 512 Mb of RAM.
Thunar is another option for copy-paste with right click. There is Thunar pet package also but I agree XFE is the best.

I found this thread where SFR makes copy-paste right click possible for Rox as well:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77003

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul 2012, 10:13    Post_subject:    

Hey! Thank you for that Saintless! That's one feature I always missed in ROX... although I learnt very quickly that a simple drag from one window to the other opened window did nearly the same thing. But this is really neat and something I've searched around for a long time.

Thank you very much again! Very Happy

Cheers/Amicalement,

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