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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 17:30    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:

Shotwell looks interesting, lots of dependencies though.


Shotwell is available in the precise repos in precise puppy beta 2, I just took a quick look at it (I had to start it with gexec with the runs in terminal box checked) but it seems to work okay, slideshow works at least.
If you have room for a puppy precise install on one of your pcs.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 17:55    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Kirk explained how to do that above.

If I understood correctly...
He explained how TYPE a rather complicated command at the command prompt, at the 5-sec pause, during startup.
Too much of a hassle for my liking.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 18:05    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
smokey01 wrote:

Shotwell looks interesting, lots of dependencies though.


Shotwell is available in the precise repos in precise puppy beta 2, I just took a quick look at it (I had to start it with gexec with the runs in terminal box checked) but it seems to work okay, slideshow works at least.
If you have room for a puppy precise install on one of your pcs.


Thanks Billtoo, I will have a look.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 21:18    Post subject:  

BHINTZ wrote:
I have loaded Iron.sfs and get a warning that I am running as root and I have been warned, but the browser does activate. I tried running in terminal as root and get some message about C. I tried as spot and get a message about libORBit.....
Can someone give a clue how to use this browser?
Much appreciated,
bob

Bob, iron doesn't currently run as spot. Not if you do it through the usual "su spot" stuff. You need to be logged in properly as "spot" (or any other user) - the easiest way to do it is by using the user manager.
Don't worry about those C stuff if the browser runs Smile

Sylvander wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:
Kirk explained how to do that above.

If I understood correctly...
He explained how TYPE a rather complicated command at the command prompt, at the 5-sec pause, during startup.
Too much of a hassle for my liking.

If that is too long, just type "search=2" instead. This will look for savefiles in stored at 2 levels deep. It will find savefile in /fd600/fd64save*. If you need deeper level, type "search=3", this will find /mysavefile/fd600/fd64save*. Remember as you go deeper, the more scanning the system has to do *for every drives*; it will slow down the boot process a lot. Best is still to do what kirk recommends - specify the exact location of the savefile. If you find that typing is too long, create a remaster and type that inside syslinux.cfg when asked to - it will become your default settings.
Note remaster has a problem with running as non-root, this is fixed in the next release.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 01:36    Post subject:  

Newer versions:
Fatdog 600 beta2 is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79265

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:45    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
If that is too long, just type "search=2" instead.

I must be getting lazy in my old age.
Think I'll stick with the method I'm using at present...
Which is to type nothing at all.
I moved the file into the root folder...
And the Puppy finds it without any command being issued. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:59    Post subject:  

Nice, it has two obvious fixes:

1. There aren't many missing icons in the menu, like in Alpha 2. This doesn't really affect functionality, but it looks much nicer in Beta 1.

2. The wallpaper setter doesn't cut off certain wallpapers like in Alpha 2, as noted that it's fixed in the o.p. of this thread as well.

Speaking of wallpapers, I made one a while ago:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36334&start=1140
and here are two more from futwerk, older ones, the blue one works well as a tile too:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36334&start=990

Some things I am having problems with though are Audacity and Wine. They simply don't run, and didn't in Alpha 2 either, although they are in the menus. (edit: oh, damn, I just now noticed beta 2, I'll have to try that)
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:31    Post subject:  

Many thanks, jb.
Beta1 took 6hrs to d/l but worth every penny. This one seems to be heading that way, so might look at the mirrors if it's still going tomorrow morning.
Update: just over the hour! Tested on beta2 thread, having sound problems.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 16:39    Post subject: INITRD includes FATDOG's SFS, now.  

I see posts on FATDOG600 thread about the time increase at boot for initrd.

I just wanted to share some info that might help in understanding what is being done in FATDOG600. Up until now, this technology was only used in the Netboot technology that is in all the 32bit and 64bit Repos for each respective distro.

Rather than have initrd call an external file SFS, the intrd in the ISO have the SFS buried within. This provides some minor savings in boot time, but it guarantees that the could be reduced confusion on where to look for the SFS that is being used at boot.

So, should one understand that, we see a combined initrd doing what use to be separate initrd and sfs files at boot-time....not separate times.

With the Netboot facility, this provided some obvious advantage (and, probably was a good testbed for the building of Puppy PXE technology and use.)

I hope this makes sense and provides some level of understanding. With this, it provides some observance of how this is useful on stand-alone booting as well as PXE booting for any one of us. Hoping soon to get a new document (and also we may see some simple instructions forthcoming) to show how easy it is to PXE boot FATDOG600 ("Fatdog600 Netbooting").

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun 2012, 20:15    Post subject: wine sfs does not work
Subject description: also please skype sfs
 

downloaded and loaded wine sfs for fatdog 600

it says '/usr/bin/wine not found' when run from terminal

which is strange because it shows up in file manager

any chance for a skype 4.0 sfs?
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2012, 01:12    Post subject:  

I would try with Beta 2 instead of the old Beta 1 in case
a lot of things is better in Beta 2?

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2012, 07:11    Post subject: Re: wine sfs does not work
Subject description: also please skype sfs
 

Anniekin wrote:
downloaded and loaded wine sfs for fatdog 600

it says '/usr/bin/wine not found' when run from terminal

which is strange because it shows up in file manager

any chance for a skype 4.0 sfs?


Wine is 32-bit application and requires 32-bit compatibility library. Skype 4.0 has "ads" in it, why do you want it? Most people I know stick with the old one and will probably stick to it until it stops working Very Happy

As nooby said, please check out beta2 (though it doesn't address your above two problems, sorry) Very Happy

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Anniekin


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2012, 19:39    Post subject:  

Thanks for the responses,

I am using beta2 just posted the wrong thread : p

I got Skype 4 to work via sfs with the slacko 32bit libraries

If anyone wants I posted it @ http://dimensions-web.com/downloads/skype_static-spot-4.0.0.7_600.sfs

It runs as user spot via su -c spot

let me know if there are any problems

someone tell me how to install proprietary ATI drivers (radeon) so that I can post that too?
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2012, 21:45    Post subject:  

Thank you Anniekin for the skype sfs, I will take a look.

For ATI (you mean the Catalyst driver? "radeon" driver is the open source driver and Fatdog comes with it already) - we'll release one for final if you can wait (won't be that long anymore from now).

Newer versions:
Fatdog 600 beta2 is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79265
Fatdog 600 rc is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79424

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2012, 21:57    Post subject:  

Hey James,

Skype 4 seems to be working well, haven't seen any ads yet, unlike in the Windows version

The new fatdog comes with the new kernel no-xorg.conf by default, what do I do to enable opengl to play windoze games Very Happy

is this enough to have as xorg.conf?
Section "Device"
Driver "radeon"
EndSection

or do i need to put more than that?

glxgears works with my current config (no-xorg) as well as glxinfo indicating rendering is on, yet Guild Wars complains about 3dx / direct x

Directx 8 should be included in wine already, did you strip it?

Also unrelated but PCM audio channel is not present on my new acer aspire 722, do i have to add some package?

Window manager locks up alot on boot, not sure if it is because I plugged in a wireless mouse,

pls advise,

thanks
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