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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 13:44    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
Do you know of any changes that could be made to the menu.lst to assure that the correct partition is loaded?

Instead of using "find --set-root" use "root (hdx,y)"

It looks like you are using sdb5, so you probably want "hd(1,4)"
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Q5sys


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 14:14    Post subject:  
jamesbond wrote:

Final will be released in 24 hours time. This will bring a conclusion to Fatdog64 600 after 6 months of development.
Please let me/kirk know of any major showstopper problems. We can live with minor problems Laughing


I can offer a mirror if you need. (check your PMs)
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majorfoo

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 14:58    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-600-rc  
[quote="Gobbi"]
If the boot sequence completes and then it turn black , put boot parameter : '' nomodeset pfix=vesa '' . Maybe a video driver problem ...
If it turn s black and not even a message error show up :
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Tried "nomodeset pfix=vesa" - still received black blank screen

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If you have any USB drive attached , it will do so... Pull out the USB drive!
Did you check if the image was burned with no errors ? I mean you did not burned it with windows burner ...if so , you better use Imgburn ( open source) , or do it in Linux !


No USB drive attached - Downloaded using puppy and burned iso using pburn 3.60

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Also take a look in BIOS at boot order priority..


Bios set to boot from cd first
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Try it on another PC !


Don't have another 64 bit pc
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 15:05    Post subject: Fatdog64-600rc
Subject description: ati		  
The ati-catalyst.pet is working well here, thanks.

OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Version 4.2.11631 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
24238 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4847.483 FPS
24453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4890.521 FPS
24208 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4841.590 FPS
#
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 16:37    Post subject:  
rcrsn51 wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
Do you know of any changes that could be made to the menu.lst to assure that the correct partition is loaded?

Instead of using "find --set-root" use "root (hdx,y)"

It looks like you are using sdb5, so you probably want "hd(1,4)"
Thanks, will try it.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 22:27    Post subject:  
gcmartin wrote:
Hostname processing would benefit by a logoff. The X desktop restart does some of it, but the logoff addresses all of it that are used by most Linux apps. See results below.
I have made sure that none of the scripts in Fatdog uses $HOSTNAME. They all use $(hostname) instead. In addition, when you use the graphical login manager, restarting X automatically means logout also.

Gobbi wrote:
Would it be possible to keep the nice boot splash image of Fatdog wich appears in the downloaded wersion in the the new custom versions that one rematers Question
It's not so important but if it's not so difficult ... The logo is too nice to be left out , in my opinion...
Yes, done.

Billtoo wrote:
... I booted it up on a pc with intel graphics and got a black screen ...
I think nvidia driver requires /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so the getnvidia.pet will create it (the nvidia pet I'm currently uploading definitely use it). Thus, X no longer dynamically detects the driver and always try to load "nvidia". If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however Smile

Lovely background you have there, is that the view from your backyard? Do you mind sharing that? Smile

majorfoo wrote:
If it turn s black and not even a message error show up :
Did you see Fatdog boot logo at all? I presume you does?
Anyway, try this "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard" - this means do not use any modesetting driver, use the vesa driver instead, and show xorgwizard for resolution selection at boot-up. Are you sure the md5sum matches?
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 22:56    Post subject:  
jamesbond wrote:

Billtoo wrote:
... I booted it up on a pc with intel graphics and got a black screen ...
I think nvidia driver requires /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so the getnvidia.pet will create it (the nvidia pet I'm currently uploading definitely use it). Thus, X no longer dynamically detects the driver and always try to load "nvidia". If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however Smile

Lovely background you have there, is that the view from your backyard? Do you mind sharing that? Smile


I never tried deleting the xorg.conf, I will try that.

The second remaster boots up on other computers, at least it did on my laptop with ati graphics, so I have one for nvidia and one for everything else.

I found the background on the web, I'll attach it.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 02:03    Post subject:  
jamesbond wrote:
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No, standard drive icons work fine, however, I prefer to have a clean desktop and use pmount as needed.
Noted. I won't be updating pmount now; not enough time and also I prefer not to make big untested changes near final release.
Against my better judgement Shocked I have written a replacement for pmount. I don't know whether it will be faster or slower than pmount. In case it is not working well, a simple copy of pmount-old over pmount will revert it back to the old pmount.

Billtoo, thanks for the picture Smile

Thank you everyone for your participation. RC is now closed and we're cutting the final ISO.

Fatdog 600 final is here: TBD
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 03:02    Post subject:  
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RC is now closed now and we're cutting the final ISO.


[Lobster faints] Wink
The pioneering work you have done will be around for years. I still run a 32 bit Puppy even though I can run (and find it faster and more stable) yours and Kirks efforts.
Many innovations have come from Fatdog.
. . . I will just read the FAQS whilst awaiting the new canine Very Happy
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/web/faqs/faq.html
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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 05:46    Post subject:  
Thanks! How many days will it take for the "mirrors" to get the final iso?
So the final really is different from the RC. The PMount is different
but that is the only difference then?

Curious remarks from an absolute noob.

Now that Kirk and JamesBond has made a fully multi-user Puppy.
Why have not the other Developers showed interest in making a
32-bit Puppy that also is multi user. FatDog shows it works as good
as any Puppy.

Even I could use FatDog without any of the problems that I ahve with
Ubuntu and other mulituser distros.

So being root is not problem. Setting up restricted users can be done
for those that need such. I don't have such needs AFAIK now but
if I need it in future then the FAQ of FD will tell me how.

But FD is 64bit and not all of my computers can deal with that.
I trust only 2 out of 5 computers here at home can run on 64 bit.

so a 32 bit multi user versionof Puppy would be most welcome.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 06:23    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Thanks! How many days will it take for the "mirrors" to get the final iso?
It really depends on the mirror. I think at most a day.
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So the final really is different from the RC. The PMount is different
but that is the only difference then?
Only minor fixes for multisession and broadcom wireless driver, plus few minor fixes.
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majorfoo

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 08:02    Post subject:  
jamesbond wrote:


If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however Smile



booted using fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard

x failed to start

deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf

typed xwin and desktop appeared

How can I boot to desktop without having to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 08:13    Post subject:  
majorfoo wrote:

booted using fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard

x failed to start

deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf

typed xwin and desktop appeared

How can I boot to desktop without having to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
By default the system doesn't create or use /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all. It is pfix=vesa that creates the xorg.conf. If you system can start without xorg.conf, all you need is "nomodeset".
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 08:21    Post subject:  
jamesbond wrote:


]By default the system doesn't create or use /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all. It is pfix=vesa that creates the xorg.conf. If you system can start without xorg.conf, all you need is "nomodeset".


That solved my problem
Using "fatdog nomodeset" booted straight to desktop

This is my first time to try a 64 bit puppy. Boot process is a little slow, but the apps are very fast.

Many thanks for your assistance.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 08:56    Post subject:  
Just a minor tidying item for a rainy day:
If Fatdog is inadvertently run on a 32bit machine, the 'wrong machine' message doesn't show up until the initial booting sequence is complete!
Otherwise - masterful, thanks.
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