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Fatdog64-600-rc

#41 Post by majorfoo »

D/L iso and burned to cd-r

Tried to boot on win 7 64bit computer. Boot process starts but only get black screen - no desktop - I tried several of the Pfix parameters and still no luck

HP Pavillion dm-4-2070 laptop
Intel Core I5, 2.3 ghz 8gb memory
screen resolution 1366x768
Intel HD graphics 3000 with up to 1696 mb shared memory

any ideas as to what my problem might be?

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Re: Fatdog64-600-rc

#42 Post by Gobbi »

majorfoo wrote:D/L iso and burned to cd-r

Tried to boot on win 7 64bit computer. Boot process starts but only get black screen - no desktop - I tried several of the Pfix parameters and still no luck

HP Pavillion dm-4-2070 laptop
Intel Core I5, 2.3 ghz 8gb memory
screen resolution 1366x768
Intel HD graphics 3000 with up to 1696 mb shared memory

any ideas as to what my problem might be?
If the boot sequence completes and then it turn black , put boot parameter : '' nomodeset pfix=vesa '' . Maybe a video driver problem ...
If it turn s black and not even a message error show up :

If you have any USB drive attached , it will do so... Pull out the USB drive!
Did you check if the image was burned with no errors ? I mean you did not burned it with windows burner ...if so , you better use Imgburn ( open source) , or do it in Linux !

Also take a look in BIOS at boot order priority...
Try it on another PC !

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Fatdog64-600rc

#43 Post by Billtoo »

I compiled some programs and did a remaster, I added
qt-482,xinelib-1.22,xineui-0.97,umplayer,smplayer,smtube,MPlayer-1.1,and cmus.
Also the proprietary nvidia driver.
The iso is 328mb
It booted up on another pc which has nvidia graphics card and works
fine on that pc.
I booted it up on a pc with intel graphics and got a black screen but
I entered xorgwizard a couple of times and then xwin, it went to the
desktop and everything is working fine except glxgears doesn't work.
I used gparted to resize the hard drive and added a new partition.then
used the fatdog installer to install to the new partition, logged off
creating my new savefile.
Next boot it offers a choice of savefiles to load, the first partition
has an older fatdog install on it, I chose the new install and it
booted up to the desktop.

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 5965MB (253MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Fatdog64 [54d320f566]
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed Jul 4 12:19:02 2012
Display
Resolution 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
OpenGL
Vendor Unknown
Renderer Unknown
Version Unknown
Direct Rendering No

Apart from the glxgears problem it's working fine.

EDIT: I made another remaster with all of the above programs plus a
few others, minus the proprietary nvidia driver.
The new iso size is 268 mb.
Installed to the hard drive.

OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.3
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.433 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.018 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.020 FPS
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#44 Post by Gobbi »

Installed ati_catalyst pet , made a remaster.iso and burned it onto a DVD-RW . Now I'm using 1920x1080 pixels resolution . :D
Thank's :!: :!: :!:
Attachments
Catalyst Control Center.jpg
(192.05 KiB) Downloaded 519 times
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#45 Post by Jim1911 »

jamesbond wrote:
fpm-mirror-choice is not present, fatdog-package-manager.sh is not present at that location, see Pfind results below.
I checked - the filesize and file date of fatdog-package-manager.sh looks old and wrong. Are you sure you're using the correct initrd?
You are correct, I was picking up b2 installed on a separate partition. :oops: Do you know of any changes that could be made to the menu.lst to assure that the correct partition is loaded? The correct save file was loaded. My solution was to delete the b2 installation.

Code: Select all

title Fatdog64-600 RC(sdb5/fatdog64-600)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /fatdog64-600/initrd
  kernel /fatdog64-600/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sdb5:fatdog64-600/fd64save.ext4
  initrd /fatdog64-600/initrd
Thanks,
Jim

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#46 Post by rcrsn51 »

Jim1911 wrote: Do you know of any changes that could be made to the menu.lst to assure that the correct partition is loaded?
Instead of using "find --set-root" use "root (hdx,y)"

It looks like you are using sdb5, so you probably want "hd(1,4)"

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#47 Post by Q5sys »

jamesbond wrote: Final will be released in 24 hours time. This will bring a conclusion to Fatdog64 600 after 6 months of development.
Please let me/kirk know of any major showstopper problems. We can live with minor problems :lol:
I can offer a mirror if you need. (check your PMs)

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Re: Fatdog64-600-rc

#48 Post by majorfoo »

Gobbi wrote: If the boot sequence completes and then it turn black , put boot parameter : '' nomodeset pfix=vesa '' . Maybe a video driver problem ...
If it turn s black and not even a message error show up :

Tried "nomodeset pfix=vesa" - still received black blank screen
If you have any USB drive attached , it will do so... Pull out the USB drive!
Did you check if the image was burned with no errors ? I mean you did not burned it with windows burner ...if so , you better use Imgburn ( open source) , or do it in Linux !
No USB drive attached - Downloaded using puppy and burned iso using pburn 3.60
Also take a look in BIOS at boot order priority..
Bios set to boot from cd first
.
Try it on another PC !
Don't have another 64 bit pc

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Fatdog64-600rc

#49 Post by Billtoo »

The ati-catalyst.pet is working well here, thanks.

OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Version 4.2.11631 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
24238 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4847.483 FPS
24453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4890.521 FPS
24208 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4841.590 FPS
#

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#50 Post by Jim1911 »

rcrsn51 wrote:
Jim1911 wrote: Do you know of any changes that could be made to the menu.lst to assure that the correct partition is loaded?
Instead of using "find --set-root" use "root (hdx,y)"

It looks like you are using sdb5, so you probably want "hd(1,4)"
Thanks, will try it.

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#51 Post by jamesbond »

gcmartin wrote:Hostname processing would benefit by a logoff. The X desktop restart does some of it, but the logoff addresses all of it that are used by most Linux apps. See results below.
I have made sure that none of the scripts in Fatdog uses $HOSTNAME. They all use $(hostname) instead. In addition, when you use the graphical login manager, restarting X automatically means logout also.
Gobbi wrote:Would it be possible to keep the nice boot splash image of Fatdog wich appears in the downloaded wersion in the the new custom versions that one rematers Question
It's not so important but if it's not so difficult ... The logo is too nice to be left out , in my opinion...
Yes, done.
Billtoo wrote:... I booted it up on a pc with intel graphics and got a black screen ...
I think nvidia driver requires /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so the getnvidia.pet will create it (the nvidia pet I'm currently uploading definitely use it). Thus, X no longer dynamically detects the driver and always try to load "nvidia". If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however :)

Lovely background you have there, is that the view from your backyard? Do you mind sharing that? :)
majorfoo wrote:If it turn s black and not even a message error show up :
Did you see Fatdog boot logo at all? I presume you does?
Anyway, try this "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard" - this means do not use any modesetting driver, use the vesa driver instead, and show xorgwizard for resolution selection at boot-up. Are you sure the md5sum matches?
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#52 Post by Billtoo »

jamesbond wrote:
Billtoo wrote:... I booted it up on a pc with intel graphics and got a black screen ...
I think nvidia driver requires /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so the getnvidia.pet will create it (the nvidia pet I'm currently uploading definitely use it). Thus, X no longer dynamically detects the driver and always try to load "nvidia". If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however :)

Lovely background you have there, is that the view from your backyard? Do you mind sharing that? :)
I never tried deleting the xorg.conf, I will try that.

The second remaster boots up on other computers, at least it did on my laptop with ati graphics, so I have one for nvidia and one for everything else.

I found the background on the web, I'll attach it.

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#53 Post by jamesbond »

jamesbond wrote:
No, standard drive icons work fine, however, I prefer to have a clean desktop and use pmount as needed.
Noted. I won't be updating pmount now; not enough time and also I prefer not to make big untested changes near final release.
Against my better judgement :shock: I have written a replacement for pmount. I don't know whether it will be faster or slower than pmount. In case it is not working well, a simple copy of pmount-old over pmount will revert it back to the old pmount.

Billtoo, thanks for the picture :)

Thank you everyone for your participation. RC is now closed and we're cutting the final ISO.

Fatdog 600 final is here: TBD
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#54 Post by Lobster »

RC is now closed now and we're cutting the final ISO.
[Lobster faints] :wink:
The pioneering work you have done will be around for years. I still run a 32 bit Puppy even though I can run (and find it faster and more stable) yours and Kirks efforts.
Many innovations have come from Fatdog.
. . . I will just read the FAQS whilst awaiting the new canine :D
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... s/faq.html
Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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#55 Post by nooby »

Thanks! How many days will it take for the "mirrors" to get the final iso?
So the final really is different from the RC. The PMount is different
but that is the only difference then?

Curious remarks from an absolute noob.

Now that Kirk and JamesBond has made a fully multi-user Puppy.
Why have not the other Developers showed interest in making a
32-bit Puppy that also is multi user. FatDog shows it works as good
as any Puppy.

Even I could use FatDog without any of the problems that I ahve with
Ubuntu and other mulituser distros.

So being root is not problem. Setting up restricted users can be done
for those that need such. I don't have such needs AFAIK now but
if I need it in future then the FAQ of FD will tell me how.

But FD is 64bit and not all of my computers can deal with that.
I trust only 2 out of 5 computers here at home can run on 64 bit.

so a 32 bit multi user versionof Puppy would be most welcome.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#56 Post by jamesbond »

nooby wrote:Thanks! How many days will it take for the "mirrors" to get the final iso?
It really depends on the mirror. I think at most a day.
So the final really is different from the RC. The PMount is different
but that is the only difference then?
Only minor fixes for multisession and broadcom wireless driver, plus few minor fixes.
Fatdog64 forum links: [url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117546]Latest version[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/ke8sn5H]Contributed packages[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/se8scrb]ISO builder[/url]

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#57 Post by majorfoo »

jamesbond wrote:
If you delete that /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X should revert to its default behaviour and load intel drivers. Just my guess, however :)
booted using fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard

x failed to start

deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf

typed xwin and desktop appeared

How can I boot to desktop without having to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

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#58 Post by jamesbond »

majorfoo wrote: booted using fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,xorgwizard

x failed to start

deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf

typed xwin and desktop appeared

How can I boot to desktop without having to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
By default the system doesn't create or use /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all. It is pfix=vesa that creates the xorg.conf. If you system can start without xorg.conf, all you need is "nomodeset".
Fatdog64 forum links: [url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117546]Latest version[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/ke8sn5H]Contributed packages[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/se8scrb]ISO builder[/url]

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#59 Post by majorfoo »

jamesbond wrote:
]By default the system doesn't create or use /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all. It is pfix=vesa that creates the xorg.conf. If you system can start without xorg.conf, all you need is "nomodeset".
That solved my problem
Using "fatdog nomodeset" booted straight to desktop

This is my first time to try a 64 bit puppy. Boot process is a little slow, but the apps are very fast.

Many thanks for your assistance.

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#60 Post by Sage »

Just a minor tidying item for a rainy day:
If Fatdog is inadvertently run on a 32bit machine, the 'wrong machine' message doesn't show up until the initial booting sequence is complete!
Otherwise - masterful, thanks.

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