Slacko 5.3.3.2 alpha (shooting for 5.3.4)

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firstrun translation

#81 Post by shinobar »

vicmz wrote:The 'Personalize - Settings' application is not properly translated. I made some corrections but was unable to use them in Slacko.
Thanks, vicmz. Maybe the po file used for the base is outdated. Use the updated one:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 691#638691
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rxvt-color-fix

#82 Post by shinobar »

On the (u)rxvt, type 'ls /dev' shows yellow character on white background, hard to read.
Made a pet replacing the /root/.Xdefaults.
rxvt-color-fix-20120706.pet
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See also another collection for slacko:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 599#638599
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PupControl

#83 Post by shinobar »

Radky's most recent PupControl-2.1 seems fine.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61961

But i made a small change for the frugalinstaller:
PupControl-2.1.20120706.pet
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/opt/

EDIT: PupControl-2.2.pet is now available.
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Testing 5.3.3.2 alpha

#84 Post by ETP »

Fresh manual frugal install to FAT32 USB2 flash. Ext4 save - syslinux 4.04 boot.

Initial boot to desktop with working sound & wired ethernet. Correct res of 1280x1024 with nouveau driver.
Installed T'bird, wallpaper and extra fonts. The following pets were then loaded & tested:
  • === /root/.packages/user-installed-packages ===

    chromium-19.0.1072.0-slacko|Browse the Web
    nvidia-glx-295.59-k3.2.22-4g|NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver
    fontwizard|Configure fonts for LCD
    flashplayer11-11.2.202.236|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
    tempiconsvg-0.11-i486|temperature monitor
    xdotool-2.20110530.1-3|no description provided
    faenza_lrx_new|
    Blue-Tripack|JWM themes
    lxtask-0.1.3-i486|Manage running processes
    Roxterm-1.17.1-Lucid|Use the command line with copy & paste
    PupClockset-1.9|PupClockset manager
    PupControl-2.1|PupControl Panel
    PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit|PupSnap screen capture
    wine-1.5.6-i486_v1|Wine Windows Program Loader
    winesmooth|Wine font smoother
    tickr-0.6.0-i486|GTK-based highly graphically-customizable Feed Ticker
    smplayer_standalone-0.6.9-i686|A great MPlayer front-end
Happy to report no problems. In particular shinobar's Nvidia pet which he produced with his getnvidia-0.5 worked a treat.

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artificial bold

#85 Post by shinobar »

Do you know the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf on the slacko has the 'Artificial oblique, so you can remove the file DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf from /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF?

The fonts-conf-artificial-bold-1.pet replaces the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf to enable also 'Artificial bold', so that you can remove DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf, DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf and DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf, that is you need only 1 file - DejaVuSans.ttf.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/opt/

Only one problem is the Abiword cannot support Bold nor Italic for Sans and the DejaVu font.

You need to run 3 command to refresh the fomt.dir and fonts.scale after you remove the fonts:

Code: Select all

# fc-cache -f
# mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF
# mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF
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#86 Post by playdayz »

The Help -> Contents in Gnumeric is not working for me. I don't understand why. The error message is that "yelp" is not present. But as I recall it worked in Lucid from the beginning (before the gvfs fix)--didn't it also work in previous versions of Slacko? And of course Slacko does not use the same gvfs as Lucid--rather Slacko uses a fix to glib, as I understand it. Could this be a compile option? A really dirty hack is to create a file "yelp" that starts defaultbrowser pointed at http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/doc/gnumeric.shtml which works but would give a problem if any other program tried to use yelp.

I am afraid I may have forgotten something about how we fixed it in Lucid, but I can't find any preferences or rc files. One program needed "sensible-browser" as a link to defaultbrowser but I think that was Gimp, and Lucid doesn't have it anyway and the Help in Gnumeric still works. Maybe someone knows....

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#87 Post by bigpup »

Slacko 5.3.3.2 frugal install + save file to hard drive.

Grub4dos Bootloader has 3 entries:
menu->System
menu->System->System status and Config
menu->Setup

menu->Utility->Icon Browser
This program runs, but does not seem to do anything. What is it suppose to do?
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menu entries

#88 Post by shinobar »

bigpup wrote:Grub4dos Bootloader has 3 entries
modified Grub4DosConfig.desktop reduces but 2 places :wink:
BTW, /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-player.png. It can be a link to the /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/gnome-player.png, but shall we need the files under /usr/share/icons (1.9MB)?
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net-setup-20120707

#89 Post by shinobar »

The puppy has many network tools and it makes somewhat complex.
We know the issue on the compatibility between network-wizard and the frisbee, but also between the SNS and Networkwizard is a bit complex.

Japanese editions take the Dugal's Networkwizard as the standard, and the SNS and Frisbee optional.

net-setup-20120707.pet has a modified connectwizard that supports easy to install the optional network tools. See the screenshot.
Need to place the optional pets at /usr/local/Frisbee and /usr/local/simple_network_setup. Then the connectwizard finds the optional pets.

net-setup-20120707.pet also has a slight update at /etc/rc.d/rc.network, wait the eth0 interface settles. You also need to modify the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit to enable this improvement.

net-setup-20120707.pet is available at:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/opt/
rc_sysinit-net-setup.patch, Frisbee_beta-2.4-spup.pet and sns-120324.pet is at:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/misc/
Of course you need to remove all the contents under /usr/local/simple_network_setup to disable SNS. and the file /usr/local/Frisbee_pack1,tar.gz is not usable.
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Remastered Slacko

#90 Post by shinobar »

i made a remastered slacko so that you can see how it works.
61ab170d775746c14208d369865aafec slacko-5.3.3.2r1.iso
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?pu ... emastered/

It is pre-installed all (but before 08-Jul-2012) the PET's here:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/opt/
And some tweeks here:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/misc/
The Live CD has graphical boot menu following the article:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61132

Add some but nothing removed from the original. The reason the size is smaller is maybe the difference of the compression.
I guess i can slim it down, the fonts, icons and etc.

EDIT: A mystery for me, some stuff under /root in Extract-makepet-1.0.pet is missing in the remastered.
Recommended to re-install the Extract-makepet-1.0.pet.
Also install new arrived gdmap-right-click-1.pet and transmission-2.51-i486-supx.pet.
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#91 Post by bigpup »

Computer has a Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti video card

First boot with live CD of Slacko 5.3.3.2

Boot locks up at point of starting x sever and using whatever video settings were auto set by boot process.

If boot with option puppy pfix=nox and run xorgwizard at prompt.
Choose probe -
locks up. Just get black screen lockup.
Select choose -
None of the Nvidea driver options work. Just get black screen lockup.
Select Vesa driver-
That works OK and can make usable settings and get to desktop.
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti

#92 Post by ETP »

bigpup
The fact that you were able to reach the desktop tends to discount a bad burn &
I speculate that the nouveau module does not like your particular card.
I suggest you blacklist nouveau in BOOT MANAGER, create a save file somewhere
and after re-booting install shinobar's nvidia-glx-295.59-k3.2.22-4g.pet which
does, according to nvidia.com support, your card.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?pu ... o-5.3.3.2/
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#93 Post by bigpup »

ETP,

Thank you for the helpful advice and useful link. :)
My post was more about testing results, than how do I correct this.
01micko needs to know what problems you may have.

Again thanks for willingness to help!! :D 8) :wink:
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pfix=nox

#94 Post by shinobar »

bigpup wrote:If boot with option puppy pfix=nox and run xorgwizard at prompt.
Choose probe -
locks up. Just get black screen lockup.
Select choose -
None of the Nvidea driver options work. Just get black screen lockup.
Select Vesa driver-
That works OK and can make usable settings and get to desktop.
Some hardware fails to get the graphical desktop automatically.
Need to pfix=nox as bigpup did. But it is not easy to type for new comers.

That is why i propose graphical boot menu with 'Safe mode'(pfix=nox,ram).
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Re: pfix=nox

#95 Post by bigpup »

shinobar wrote: Some hardware fails to get the graphical desktop automatically.
Need to pfix=nox as bigpup did. But it is not easy to type for new comers.

That is why i propose graphical boot menu with 'Safe mode'(pfix=nox,ram).
There are other times this would be useful too.
However, I wonder if a new user would know what to do, when this safe mode, booted him to the prompt?
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Re: pfix=nox

#96 Post by shinobar »

bigpup wrote:However, I wonder if a new user would know what to do, when this safe mode, booted him to the prompt?
Yes, is a problem. the lupq-511 and the japanese versions offers 'xorgwizard' with dialog automatically.
Image

And i am not sure he find the 'Advanced menu'.
The document is on the CD but who reads?
Document on the lupu-528JP, coming soon)

One idea is to make the menu to be self explains.
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#97 Post by bigpup »

While you are talking about a boot menu. What about an entry that would do the same as if you hit F2? Take you to the boot options screen.
Something like:

Helpful Boot Options

Boot Problems (Help With Alternate Boot Options)

Boot Process is Broken. Help is Here. These Boot Options Can Help.
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pfix=nox

#98 Post by shinobar »

bigpup wrote:While you are talking about a boot menu. What about an entry that would do the same as if you hit F2? Take you to the boot options screen.
Maybe Japanese difficulty.
1. Hard to read long explanations in english.
2. Japanese keyboard layout is different with us, the boot loader assumes. That is, we need to type '^' in Japanese keyboard instead of '='.
Must be more difficult with other keyboard layouts. Even typing 'xorgwizard'.
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/usr/share/include

#99 Post by shinobar »

@01mico
Why there is /usr/include (2.7MB)? And /usr/src...
And i think the NLS for gphoto2 and gtklp is better to be optional.
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Re: /usr/share/include

#100 Post by 01micko »

shinobar wrote:@01mico
Why there is /usr/include (2.7MB)? And /usr/src...
And i think the NLS for gphoto2 and gtklp is better to be optional.
Bad redirect in woof, it's already fixed for next version.
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