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Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.4.12 with 3.4.2 kernel.
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Terry H

Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Posts: 54
Location: Pickering, ON Canada

PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 16:15    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:


Creating an empty .3fs save file with SimpleSave then booting with that works ok - wifi is detected and works on second boot.



I downloaded the simplesaver pet and created a.3fs save file, however when i shutdown/reboot, I still get the create save file dialogue and resultant errors and requires hard shutdown.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 4768
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 17:20    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install of latest 5.X.3.4.2.4 on Athlon XP box.......no problems. Ext4 savefile on ext3 partition (internal hdd)..... no problems.
Fresh frugal install of latest on the P4 test box.... no problems. Ext4 savefile on ext4 partition internal hdd) ...... no problems.
Upgraded frugal install from 5.X.3.4.2.3 to 5.X.3.4.2.4...... no problem.Another ext 4 savefile on ext3 internal partition ..... no problems.
Lastly, live cd with ext4 savefile on NTFS internal hdd partition....no problems.

The way this forum is messing up today I hesitate to post much....afraid the post may just disappear........ Laughing
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5175
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 17:40    Post subject:  

We have snail song in Finland for these kind days...I hope my 1Mb upload get through...
I am still at loss with the savefile problem. It should not be due to my ntfs-3g upgrade because stu90 did the saving to the ext4 partition.
What I have traced...I did download the latest aufs-util after working 5.X.3.4.2.1 and I have used that or new download of the same aufs-util git.
So...I compiled my older aufs-util which I had. It has been compiled as static which should be more stable that shared libs compile. I am not sure if you can downgrade the aufs-util on the fly....but if you are willing you could test this pet...if it makes change. If I could reproduce the problem...It would help me a lot to nail the problem.

It is hard for me to ask to test....because it seems to need hard poweroff. I know how dangerous that is....even if you use journaling ext4. So....do the tests if you want. I cant ask you to do it....

Terry H. That broadcom should be happy with wl driver module...am I not right. And it should be the default choice for you. I am not sure what goes wrong. I need to check that I had used rerwins latest files.
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Terry H

Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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Location: Pickering, ON Canada

PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 19:26    Post subject:  

I tried the aufs pet, but still unable to create a save file.

Regarding the bcm43, as I can't get a save file created to then be able to reboot, I can't tell if it will work or not. Wifi does however work when I use a save file created using 5.X.3.4.2.2.
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stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 23:35    Post subject:  

Terry H wrote:
stu90 wrote:


Creating an empty .3fs save file with SimpleSave then booting with that works ok - wifi is detected and works on second boot.



I downloaded the simplesaver pet and created a.3fs save file, however when i shutdown/reboot, I still get the create save file dialogue and resultant errors and requires hard shutdown.


Hi Terry H,
Did you add squeezesave- prefix to the start of the save file name? squeezesave-somename.3fs
Creating save file in current session will not save that session as the save file is not loaded until the next boot.
Or you can create the save file for 5.X.3.4.2.4 while running another pup just prefix it with squeezesave- and put it in 5.X.3.4.2.4 frugal directory then boot.
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 00:59    Post subject:  

Feelsub and other single core processor users. I have compiled Mplayer2 with more conservative tuning. This version should be good for intel Celeron.
http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/mplayer2-uniprocessor-090712-git.pet

It has been compiled from latest git. the installed pet overwrites the existing multicore optimized version.

Skype-4.0 pet and abiword-2.8.6-gnumeric-1.10.17-goffice-0.8.17-dpup.pet has been uploaded. They were missing, even though mentioned in Packages-puppy-exprimo-official database file. I have to bundle this abiword version because it uses different goffice version than is in repo separately.

I might downgrade to the mplayer2 to this singlecore version if it seems behave.

Packages-puppy-exprimo-official has been uploaded also. So you can update the database file using PPM. You can update only it, by bypassing the other database files. Especially squeeze database files takes ages to be converted to the puppy format. Only addition so far is the Mplayer2 for single processor though.

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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 04:45    Post subject:  

Gnuxo. Thank you of the Dooble-1.31 pet. It seems to be nice Qt - webkit browser. I am posting from it. Youtube with flash works. Saved bookmarks are not remembered...at least not oob.
I have uploaded it to the exprimo repo....after some tuning.

Bear with me....I try just to school you to be master contributor.

First...I stripped your pet..and the installed size reduced from 23 Mb to 13 Mb ! Pet size reduced from about 7.3 Mb to 3.3 Mb.Stripping removes from the executables and libs somekind debugging and other unneeded symbols which are not needed when you just use the app. You wont get full debug information after that...but who cares.

Secondly I included the pinstall.sh script to the pet which asks if you want the browser to be default browser.

Thirdly I did run splitpkg and removed development headers also. Not needed with just using the app.

Preferable place for the launching script or executable is /usr but in dooble case, the stuff is its own folder and dooble.sh is just wrapper script so..../usr/local is ok. Nice wrapper script by the way. Simple...do its job.

So.....
---- new2dir make install or strippkg and splitpkg. You really need to strip your compiles. Sorry of my lecturing note....I just cant help myself....

And great job with compile. Dooble works just fine. It needs qt basic with webkit to work. Packages-puppy-exprimo-official database file has been updated.
Download link: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/dooble-1.31.pet

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Terry H

Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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Location: Pickering, ON Canada

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 09:45    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:


Hi Terry H,
Did you add squeezesave- prefix to the start of the save file name? squeezesave-somename.3fs
Creating save file in current session will not save that session as the save file is not loaded until the next boot.
Or you can create the save file for 5.X.3.4.2.4 while running another pup just prefix it with squeezesave- and put it in 5.X.3.4.2.4 frugal directory then boot.



Thanks for the assistance, I forgot to change the prefix to squeezesave. I just reran it now using another puppy, logged back in to exprimo, then rebooted and all is OK, wifi working.
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5175
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 12:57    Post subject:  

Good to hear you got latest dpup working. Of course it is unsatisfactory that the problem exists. But...I need more clues. I suspect aufs-3.4 - kernel state - some module handling problem atm.

But....I noticed this thread about Mixxx: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73108
666philb did it again. I dont understand from where he finds out these nice apps. Previous great finding was that gtk-youtube-viewer. Thank you 666philb.
I didnt test his compile...but I compiled it from source in dpup exprimo.

Download link for Mixxx:
http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/mixx-1.10.1.pet
http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/mixx_NLS-1.10.1.pet

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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 15:26    Post subject:  

I spent almost whole yesterday in nearest big city....where my just graduated daughter rent her first own room. I spent several hours in furniture shop, ordereded her 3g modem stick, sim card for it and and the contract to use them. Plays fine. 13.90 euros / month, no download limit, up to 21 Mb/s, not hsdpa connection though, I think it is umts contract with that price only. HD video from youtube plays without glitch. She needs them....her boyfriend started Finnish Army yesterday....army widow...

She has a view to harbour. Really great first apartment I would say. I also attached 4 lamps to the the roof and my shoulder really ached after that. But I got them wired and working. I tuned the cable TV stations and brought her bicycle, acguired a lock for it. Yeah...in our village she never locked it and the key had vanished. Lol.

Well....I wanted to see what her view and surrounds looks from google earth and I downloaded the latest deb and packaged it as pet. Above was just prelude for this latest offer.

I dont know if it needs other libs, probably not. I had so much installed after my compiles, that cant be sure. Xorg-high I had installed.

Google-earth-6.2.2 download link: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/google-earth-6.2.2.pet
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recobayu


Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Posts: 87
Location: indonesia

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 08:08    Post subject: aurora gtktheme
Subject description: square dots boundaries in rox does not appear when select with arrow on keyboard
 

hi everyone, just making more perfect to this dpup, i want to tell something i feel. when i use "aurora" gtktheme (default in exprimo). when i open rox and then i press arrow key in keyboard to select a file, i can't see a square dot around my file/folder. it makes me a little confuse. but when i change my gtktheme to "stardust" or "polished-blue", the boundary dots appear. i think it's better if the nice looking "aurora" gtktheme can do like that. Wink
thanks
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 09:49    Post subject:  

I have created experimental build which reverts rerwins patches to the 5.X.3.4.2.1 state. It has also my previous shared aufs-util. All the else is up to date...in fact fbreader has been updated to the technosaurus`s latest version.

And....I have got positive feedback from Terry H that the savefile problem has been fixed. So...my main suspicion is that the new firmware.dep - modulesconfig file - all-firmware folder new ssb - b43 - wl loading schematics has a problem. It makes kernel hang when those modules should be unloaded and inhibits of course the savefile creation. This is of course a hunch and suspicion only. But....my aufs-util as shared compile should not do that. It is in fact less safe than static compile but...I did this experimental build as I it was in working build.

So....broadcom chip owners which had savefile creation problem and kernel crash and need to do hard power off....here is the build for you....of course it works for others also:

Download link for 5.X.3.4.2.5: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/dpup-test/DpupExprimo5X3425/
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stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Posts: 1401
Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 09:59    Post subject:  

Hi Pemasu,

Here is a .pet for PaulStretch for testing.
http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/

You will have to work your magic on these .pets to strip and also add the jack-audio-connection-kit.pet as a linked / needed dependency for the Paulstretch.pet


paulstretch
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3009188/paulstretch-2.2.2.2.pet
Jack-audio
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3009188/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.121.3-i486.pet

Just a heads up if any one does not here the audio playing with Paulstretch try enabling the 'capture' option in Retrovol tray icon.

thanks.
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:33    Post subject:  

Stu90. Thanks. It stretched the audio just fine. Now I can create atonal music for my family Smile
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Jim1911

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Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 11:37    Post subject:  Exprimo 5.X.3.4.2.5  

Frugal installation on an ext4 partition is running fine except for a problem installing NVIDIA driver using the getnivdia-0.5.pet which does not recognize the devx file.

I continue to be amazed at how fast you continue to put out your fine distributions.

Cheers, Very Happy
Jim
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