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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 09:59    Post subject:  

I was able to update the ppm - it took nearly two hours but is rather flaky in alpha2. Try and hang on for alpha3 when there should be improvements from Barry.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 11:14    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
I was able to update the ppm - it took nearly two hours but is rather flaky in alpha2. Try and hang on for alpha3 when there should be improvements from Barry.


Yes, it seems to have worked. I am part-way through compiling Python. The tk bits seem to have been found this time Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 13:37    Post subject:
Subject description: python3
 

I have Python 3.14 working, with tk (so I have IDLE).
Next ... pygame.
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I'm pleased with how fast Puppy boots.
It seems to run a bit slower than Arch though. It took a long time to compile Python ....

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Building pygame. Hope to have a pet for you to try soon.

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Pygame is installed. No time to test tonight, so I won't share the pet yet. Also I am going to attach a couple of pics. A Python calculator I am working on and a little game that should be in the next MagPi.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 18:06    Post subject: SDHC Image
Subject description: Thank you 01micko and BarryK for help
 

Hi
Thank you 01micko and BarryK for pointing out that when writing the image to the sdhc I should only use sdb and not sdb1. I had spent hours on this problem. With this error corrected the process worked a treat. I can now boot my raspberry pi board and I am impressed with how good it is at such an early stage in its development. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 01:47    Post subject:  

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It seems to run a bit slower than Arch though.


Yes that is Debian. Solid but older.
Congratulations on your Python efforts.

I have a feeling that sound works in Python and RacyPy?

In another month or two, buying multiple motherboards will be possible. Leaving a Rpi to compile for a day or two will not be so much of an issue. In fact Sickgut already seems keen on the idea of a server farm of Rpi's. Sounds good.

Hopefully today or tomorrow Barry will release Alpha3 of Puppi Sap which with the devx will have Python support as well as the potential of the Woof build system for Puppi SLR.

My xcowsay promo script is progressing nicely. May be able to turn it into a Puppi intro/tutorial. I hope sneaky Linux, Icyos and other reviewers have Rpi's on standby.

The great thing is being able to develop script on x86 (I am in an Alpha x86) and then move to the still unstable but rapidly evolving ARM architecture.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 02:58    Post subject:  

Yes, sound on Arch is working. I will investigate the sound issues when I next boot up into SAP.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 06:25    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
I was able to update the ppm - it took nearly two hours but is rather flaky in alpha2. Try and hang on for alpha3 when there should be improvements from Barry.


I have released alpha3, but didn't get around to looking at the PPM. That is high on the to-do list.

Though, there was a file named 'find_cat' that was missing from alpha2, that the PPM uses when creating the Puppy standard database files. So, maybe the problem has fixed itself.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 06:27    Post subject:  

Here it is, Squeezed Arm Puppy alpha3:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02899

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 06:53    Post subject:  

alpha3, pwallpaper is segfaulting, don't know why. (was for me in alpha 2 too, don't know about alpha one)

I am working on a simple alternative, I wrote awhile ago, but it doesn't work ootb on the Pi, so I'm going to fix it, also add the code for screen cropping calling "background_reshape"

More in a bit...

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In other news.. my slr based on armed slack has stalled. I can build a distro ok but still get a kernel panic, unless I link /bin/init to busybox (yes wrong I know!) then it starts to boot but not all commands seem to work. For example it goes into an endless loop trying to find mingetty. I don't think the main filesystem is mounting properly as the work arounds for cross build don't run either. I'm using the July 7 filesystem.

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I got sws (simple wall setter) working but there is a catch. The first time it runs you get a rox pinpoard error , a reboot seems to fix it. After reboot I tested all wallpapers in the /usr/share/backround dir and an added one, changed back and forth. I don't know if rebooting before trying to change the wallpaper will fix it. If not then i guess this will be no good.

Widescreen cropping was as easy as inserting a few lines of code from Nathan's wallpaper setter. Works too.

Anyway, it's here if you want to try it. Usual warnings apply. (try at own risk, etc)
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 12:20    Post subject:  

The Python 3.1.4 and Pygame that I compiled seems to be working well. I will upload the pet for someone to test in a bit.

The sound problems are going to be awkward. Can anyone give me an idiot's guide to the story so far? I don't seem to have alsa working.
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Downloading Alpha3. Smile

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Here's a link to my Python and Pygame pet. You'll need tcl, tck, sdl, sdl-image, sdl-mixer and sdl-ttf.
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This isn't quite right yet, the Python and Tk stuff works, but not the Pygame. I'll get back when I have fixed it.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 16:22    Post subject:  
Subject description: Barry You are a Genius!
 

Running the new Alpha on my Pi. Unlike all the other distros I have tried, this one works with my (ath9k_htc) wireless usb.
This is brilliant as the router isn't in my room and it's been a major hassle getting online!
thanks Barry.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 16:39    Post subject: Alpha 3 report & Going for the Holy Grail
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Barry

First off you have done a fantastic job with the Alpha versions so far. Alpha 3 is working nicely. Here are a few suggestions that maybe should be in the default install or be very easy to install.

Have an SSH daemon available on the Pi that would allow ssh, scp and ssh -X from a remote (more powerful machine) I think dropbear would suffice?

Install the omxplayer because it shows off the power of the Pi's GPU (mp4 graphics accelerator)

Very Holly Grail -- Consider linking up with the Raspbian developers to have a future Puppy that takes advantage of the "Hardware floating point processor"
and the OPENssl assembly optimizations. [
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=8433
among others.

Questions: I am running Puppy from /root on an external USB drive to improve performance. I also have a swap partition on the external drive, how do I make Puppy use it?

I modifed the cmdline.txt to /dev/sda1 which then uses /root on the USB external drive. It would be nice if there where a way to have the cmdline.txt wherewithal ask which device has the /root and swap partitions (probably not possible?). I plan to boot three ways exclusively from the SDHC card, have /root & swap on a USB stick and finally with /root & swap on an external USB spinning/SSD drive. Modifying the cmdline.txt file would work to switch between these boot options but is not very elegant.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 17:36    Post subject: Alpha 3 feedback
Subject description: Alpha 3 feedback
 

Alpha 3 looking great.
On 1st bootup waited over two minutes at "recognising media devices ... optical input."
I rebooted without mouse (Standard wired type) and it booted fast. Popped in mouse and it instantly recognised it.
Connected to wired internet no problem. The odd second or so freeze when browsing the net.
Nice one Barry and others..
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 21:26    Post subject:  

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The sound problems are going to be awkward. Can anyone give me an idiot's guide to the story so far? I don't seem to have alsa working.


HDMI in alpha 2
- working for some (with some break up)
- noise from HDMI monitor but not recognizable (that was my condition)
- no sound from HDMI (Barrys monitor)

HDMI in alpha 3
- not working for me at all now for HDMI, even when changing settings in config.txt
modprobing etc
- sound from headphone socket is the new default for alpha 3? If so I have not tested

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 22:06    Post subject:  

Hi Guys Smile

First boot up = slow
Known
being addressed by Barry in Beta 1
Second boot up was way too fast . . .[if such is possible] however I may have had part of Puppy in memory, after a quick restart, so will report again after a few more boots.

Firewall symbol lost on iconbar (it was present in alpha 2)
New audio mixer not running from command line

On menu there is a GTKaria (I think that is right - under graphics) that is not working Alpha 2 and 3 - never heard of that before . . .

Which programming languages are in devx? Not tried in any SAP.

Sorry to hear woof not yet producing SLR - the better drivers would make a difference, same for a Puppi based on Arch

My initial impressions of Alpha 3 were of improvements in the internals (something I am not able to gauge as well as others)

It may interest you to know I was able to produce a pie (or pi) chart in gnumeric. Beautiful and useful piece of software.
Invaluable for documenting your ARM powered cyber k9's
or other plans Wink

I make use of notecase (under personal). Working well.
This kind of support structure makes Puppy versatile.

Being kind to trees - we all need friends - I am largely paperless. Unable to test Cups. Any more feedback?

Anyone planning on plugging in phones, ipads, USB hardrive (own power supply), tablets? I am in the future [so to speak]

Our first general purpose PARM (Puppy on ARM) is here.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Amazing. Smile

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