Slacko 5.3.3.2 alpha (shooting for 5.3.4)

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mesa packages

#101 Post by shinobar »

An idea.
The mesa package, pre-installed in the slacko alpha2, is 59MB (extracted) large.
We can divide them into mesa-glx, mesa-utils, and dri for each.
mesa-glx: under /usr/lib and /usr/lib/egl, 4.4MB(extracted)
mesa-utils: under /usr/lib, 0.4MB
mesa-dri-*: under/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri, 52MB in total
See an example:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/mesa/

And how about the mesa-glx and mesa-utils pre-installed, and the mesa-dri-* as optional?
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#102 Post by Terryphi »

Slacko is insisting on setting a unique hostname on reboot even though I have deliberately set it to puppypc. Why - and how do I stop this behaviour?
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#103 Post by Terryphi »

Terryphi wrote:Slacko is insisting on setting a unique hostname on reboot even though I have deliberately set it to puppypc. Why - and how do I stop this behaviour?
OK. I see why now. It is 01mick0's fix which Barry incorporated in script /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit which disallows puppypc as a hostname. Easily unfixed. :)

No, I don't want to re-open the hostname on a network debate thanks!
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The trouble with nouveau

#104 Post by drblock2 »

Once again, as I reported for 5.3.3.1 alpha, the nvidia GeForce FX5200 boots into a desktop with corrupt icons and no menus.

The problem lies with the nouveau driver that is loaded by default on the first boot. There is a simple fix: Just add nouveau.modeset=0 to the kernel line in the grub menu entry. Now the vesa driver loads (glxgears 160 fps).

The difficulty is that most new users (unless they are devoted readers of these pages) will not know about this and other possible methods of getting rid of nouveau and will simply give up on Slacko.

Would it be possible to blacklist nouveau from the outset and recommend pets of the proprietary nvidia drivers for those who wish to upgrade from vesa. (Recommended. Nvidia.176.14.31 gives me ca. 3030 fps on this ancient Athlon.)

I have never understood the rational behind nouveau. Why would anyone want to reverse engineer an nvidia driver when nvidia provides excellent, free, easily installed drivers even for 10-year-old legacy cards like the FX5200?

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#105 Post by bigpup »

As I remember, nouveau was developed during the early days of Linux, when manufactures of hardware, did not provide any support for Linux. It was the only way to get a driver for Nvidea hardware, with more features than Vesa driver offered.

If the Vesa driver, was the graphics driver used on first initial boot. seems a lot of graphics boot issues would not happen.

Vesa driver seems to have the best chance of working on any hardware.
VESA is a standard method of accessing video memory. Almost all PC-type computers produced in 1994 or later have built in VESA compatibility
After getting to a usable desktop, other graphics driver options could be offered.
At best, a person would know Puppy will boot to a usable desktop and any new graphics problems, would be related to the new drivers they are trying to use.
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Testing

#106 Post by sszindian »

TEST:

Upgraded Slacko-5.3.3.1 to Slacko-5.3.3.2

Using the standard upgrade procedure (noticed it was somewhat different than previous upgrades) but it went well.

No apps lost or failed to function. Did have to re-install desktop background picture and remove the duplicate desktop icons (I have wbar installed) but that wasn't an issue. Even xscreensaver came through and works as it should (from slackware repo in the PPM)

For sure, faster than 5-3.3.1 was.

Overall I would say a success and again mic... 'nice work!'

One issue that I mentioned back in the 5.3.3 thread was with xscreensaver itself (which by the way was never addressed?). Although it functions properly with MOST of the standard features in it... the functions like Carousel, GLslideshow and I believe one more that uses GRAPHICS or PICTURES... work but... do not display the graphic or picture itself and I believe I have tried all the settings available? It would be nice to have this feature corrected if possible as xscreensaver in Slacko is the ONLY puppy xscreensaver ever worked properly in and it is a really nice touch for Slacko. :wink:

Looking forward to test next update!!!!!

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flash player problem

#107 Post by drblock2 »

Initially both SeaMonkey 2.1 and Opera-Next-1201-1491 reported flash-player update required. flash-player-11.2.202.233 from the PPM slacko repository did not work.

I then download the flash-player-10.0.15.3-w5c.pet from here:

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distribu ... .3-w5c.pet

This flash player worked with SeaMonkey, but not Opera.

I then upgraded to the latest Opera-Next-12.50-1497 and the flash player worked.

Running an AMD Athon 2 GB processor with nvidia GeForce FX5200.

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Re: flash player problem

#108 Post by shinobar »

drblock2 wrote:flash-player-11.2.202.233 from the PPM slacko repository did not work.
How about flashplayer-11-11.2.202.228?
Have you checked the GetFlash in the menu?
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#109 Post by Lobster »

Imo may be a substitute for meebo
https://imo.im/

Chrome 21 in beta, has support for webcams using HTML5
http://phys.org/news/2012-07-chrome-bet ... phone.html

Might be useful 8)
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Flash Player

#110 Post by drblock2 »

Tried Getflash to download flashplayer-11-11.2.202.228. Download seemed successful, but then I got the error message:
Sorry the Player did not download, try the Puppy Package Manager.
The PPM does not have .288, but it does have 10.2.183.18. I installed this version and initialized it in SeaMonkey. After that, it worked fine in Opera-Next-12.01-1491 as well.

Incidentally, the latest Opera-Next realease 12.50-1497 has a keyboard problem (arrow keys don't work among other things - bug report filed and acknowledged).

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#111 Post by playdayz »

Gnome-mplayer played the whole suite of test videos I have been using since early in Lupu. It also played a DVD with menus working as well as they ever do in gnome-mpayler--working well enough to use--they just look blocky. Good result.

Here is the test suite -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Media_Test.tar.gz There are a three different kinds of mov files, 3 kinds of mp4, an mpg, an rm, an avi, a wmv, and a 3gp. Xine won't play them all--I can't remember about VLC. (Admittedly, some might be very rare formats.)

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Gnome-mplayer

#112 Post by shinobar »

playdayz wrote:Gnome-mplayer played the whole suite of test videos I have been using since early in Lupu. It also played a DVD with menus working as well as they ever do in gnome-mpayler--working well enough to use--they just look blocky. Good result.
Only one problem i found is the gnome-mplayer cannot interpret UTF-8 encoded path name in .asx file, while the Xine can.
Another issue is it is difficult to compile mplayer against some version of ffmpeg.

I like Xine, but the xine-plugin is too old and cannot play mp4, mov and etc. on the browsers. :(
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dir2sfs

#113 Post by shinobar »

I did mistake. The dir2sfs-20120703 does not support xz compression. Updated: dir2sfs-20120704.pet.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/opt/
# dir2sfs --help
dir2sfs version 20120704
make squashfs
usage: dir2sfs [OPTIONS] DIRECTORY_NAME
options:
-xz : use xz compression
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Wireless networking not working with Netgear WN111v2

#114 Post by Jades »

My Netgear WN111v2 USB wireless dongle isn't working at all on Slacko 5.3.3.2 - Puppy can't even see it! I've tried both Network Wizard and Frisbee. I'll post the output of lsmod on both 5.3.3 (on which wireless works perfectly) and 5.3.3.2 tomorrow when I can get on the PC.

On the bright side, I bought my mate's spare HDD so the PC is fully working again. Drive's 'only' 160GB though, so will replace it when the supply situation improves. 1.5TB Western Digital one is still flaky.
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gtk.immodules

#115 Post by shinobar »

Slacko has 2 gtk.immodules files, /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules and /etc/gtk-2.0/i486-slackware-linux/gtk.immodules. And also has 1 symlink at /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/gtk.immodules that points /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.

I think the /etc/gtk-2.0/i486-slackware-linux/gtk.immodules is better to be a symlink to /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.
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gdmap-right-click-2

#116 Post by shinobar »

UPDATE: gdmap-right-click-2.pet
Add open with inode/mount-point.
Moved category to 'filesystem'.
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Re: Wireless networking not working with Netgear WN111v2

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Jades wrote:My Netgear WN111v2 USB wireless dongle isn't working at all on Slacko 5.3.3.2 - Puppy can't even see it! I've tried both Network Wizard and Frisbee. I'll post the output of lsmod on both 5.3.3 (on which wireless works perfectly) and 5.3.3.2 tomorrow when I can get on the PC.
Further to my previous post, the promised lsmod outputs appear below.

First, the output on Slacko 5.3.3, on which the wireless networking works perfectly:-

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Module                  Size  Used by
iptable_mangle           904  0 
iptable_nat             2575  0 
nf_nat                  9805  1 iptable_nat
ipt_REJECT              1529  1 
nf_conntrack_ftp        4065  0 
nf_conntrack_irc        2379  0 
iptable_filter           804  1 
xt_state                 791  4 
nf_conntrack_ipv4       7226  7 iptable_nat,nf_nat
nf_conntrack           37910  6 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_conntrack_irc,xt_state,nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv4           787  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
ip_tables               7021  3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
arc4                     978  2 
snd_intel8x0           19458  0 
snd_ac97_codec         76936  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                 702  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            27363  0 
snd_mixer_oss           9846  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                46865  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy            907  0 
carl9170               56091  0 
mac80211              135762  1 carl9170
ath                    10422  1 carl9170
cfg80211              113722  3 carl9170,mac80211,ath
rfkill                  9954  1 cfg80211
snd_seq_oss            19155  0 
snd_seq_midi            3248  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      3636  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            11838  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                32220  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          3541  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_timer              11743  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
pcspkr                  1195  0 
snd                    32906  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
soundcore               3321  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          4685  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
ppdev                   4074  0 
parport_pc             18236  0 
parport                20315  2 ppdev,parport_pc
evdev                   5816  0 
shpchp                 17907  0 
intel_agp               7956  1 
intel_gtt               9113  1 intel_agp
agpgart                17874  2 intel_agp,intel_gtt
processor              20513  0 
thermal_sys             9722  1 processor
hwmon                    965  1 thermal_sys
button                  3275  0 
fuse                   47599  0 
aufs                  119852  41 
squashfs               18852  2 
floppy                 40861  0 
IIRC the key module here is carl9170, the Netgear WN111v2 using an Atheros 9170 chipset (again, IIRC).

This is the output of lsmod on Slacko 5.3.3.2.

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Module                  Size  Used by
radeon                577985  1 
drm_kms_helper         17719  1 radeon
ttm                    36591  1 radeon
drm                   121515  4 radeon,drm_kms_helper,ttm
i2c_algo_bit            3672  1 radeon
i2c_core               12587  4 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
iptable_mangle           904  0 
iptable_nat             2575  0 
nf_nat                  9805  1 iptable_nat
ipt_REJECT              1517  1 
nf_conntrack_ftp        4065  0 
nf_conntrack_irc        2379  0 
iptable_filter           804  1 
xt_state                 791  4 
nf_conntrack_ipv4       7266  7 iptable_nat,nf_nat
nf_conntrack           38062  6 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_conntrack_irc,xt_state,nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv4           787  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
ip_tables               7021  3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
nls_cp850               3705  1 
snd_intel8x0           19798  0 
snd_ac97_codec         76936  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                 706  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            27363  0 
snd_mixer_oss           9850  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                47145  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy            907  0 
snd_seq_oss            19155  0 
snd_seq_midi            3248  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      3636  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            11838  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                32204  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          3541  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_timer              11743  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
carl9170               57195  0 
mac80211              139751  1 carl9170
ath                    10426  1 carl9170
cfg80211              119039  3 carl9170,mac80211,ath
rfkill                  9950  1 cfg80211
snd                    33354  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
soundcore               3321  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          4685  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
pcspkr                  1195  0 
intel_agp               7984  1 
intel_gtt               9153  1 intel_agp
agpgart                17858  4 ttm,drm,intel_agp,intel_gtt
shpchp                 17907  0 
ppdev                   4074  0 
evdev                   5812  0 
parport_pc             18328  0 
parport                20351  2 ppdev,parport_pc
button                  3275  0 
processor              21886  0 
thermal_sys             9730  1 processor
hwmon                    877  2 radeon,thermal_sys
fuse                   47727  2 
aufs                  120424  39 
squashfs               18852  5 
floppy                 40893  0 
The most obvious difference at first glance is that the order of the modules listed is different. Not sure if that matters however. It appears that most, if not all, of the key modules for wireless networking are loaded so I'm not sure what's going wrong.
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Japanese remastered

#118 Post by shinobar »

Someone may be interested in.
Japanese remastered slacko-5.3.3.2-JP.iso
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?pu ... emastered/

Removed mesa drivers, gutenprint, seamonkey.
Add Japanese stuff and Japanese seamonkey as an additional SFS.

Optional mesa drivers:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/slacko/mesa/
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#119 Post by James C »

Been playing with hardware today so a quick pfix=ram test of Slacko 5.3.3.2. Initial boot, working and correct display,sound and internet. All basic apps working.

# report-video
nouveau
Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.3.2 on Sat 14 Jul 2012

Chip description:
00
12.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP67 - mcp68-01 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory : 2333MB (165MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 14 Jul 2012 03:36:23 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.9.5
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1024x768 pixels

-OpenGL-
Vendor : nouveau
Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2
Direct Rendering : Yes

Still looking good...... :)

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#120 Post by James C »

Needed to use GParted so 5.3.3.2 live pfix=ram in a different dual-core. Same results, internet,display and sound working on initial boot.

# report-video
nouveau
Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.3.2 on Fri 13 Jul 2012

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 1813MB (142MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 13 Jul 2012 11:25:04 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV4C
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.9.5
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1440x900 pixels

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1813744 480432 1333312 0 27688
-/+ buffers: 452744 1361000
Swap: 4300796 0 4300796
#

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