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Install BarryK's SoftMaker Office 2008 .pet in older Puppies
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Oct 2011, 23:39    Post subject:  Install BarryK's SoftMaker Office 2008 .pet in older Puppies
Subject description: 2.14X / 3.01 / 4.x; also Wary 5.x		  
Edit: 9/17/2013:
I wrote (via e-mail):
Quote:
Are registration keys still available for SoftMaker Office 2008 (free version)?
Thank you.

SoftMaker replied:
Quote:
No, but you can use FreeOffice instead:
www.freeoffice.com
Best regards
SoftMaker Team


(special thanks to sickgut)

With 4.x and Wary 5.x Puppies, SoftMaker Office 2008 installs, but won't launch from Menu.
Dependency check shows nothing is needed.
However, launching from terminal generates gtkdialog error.

I've only tested this with one computer.
(Compaq Deskpro PII / 350MHz)
So results may vary, depending on hardware.

GTK / libs were installed all at once, followed by reboot.

Links to required packages:

deb2pet.rpm2pet-0.0.4.pet
glib-2.22.2-p4.pet
gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet
libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb
softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet

This SoftMaker Office 2008 .pet can be installed either before or after dependencies are installed.

I've tested with below-listed Puppies:

Classic Pup 2.14xRC5:
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
* Click Menu / Refresh menu.
Extra details in my post here.
ttuuxxx said next 2.14x (after Top9) will have glib-2.28.8.
I don't know if this will affect anything.

Puppy Linux 3.01 / 4.1.2:
(haven't tested 4.2.x; probably the same)
Must install dependencies in following order:
* Install glib-2.22.2-p4.pet.
* Install deb2pet.rpm2pet-0.0.4.pet.
* Right-click libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb, then left-click Convert to pet.
* Install newly created libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.pet.
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
* Click Menu / Shutdown / Restart JWM.
This might turn Puppy-Podcast-Grabber into a zombie.
("Kill" might not kill it.)
So try this: Menu / Shutdown / Restart X server.

Puppy Linux 4.3.1:
Must install dependencies in following order:
* Install libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb; 4.3.1 installs .debs as-is.
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
See above; same Puppy-Podcast-Grabber problem.

Wary 5.1.1:
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
Last edited by Dewbie on Tue 17 Sep 2013, 00:45; edited 5 times in total
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tuxtoo


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Location: North Yorkshire, UK
PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 17:58    Post subject: Wary language fix  
I noticed on Barry’s Blog http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02435, one of the comments says;

“Also, it comes with language English (US) and spellchecker English (US). I can't see any option to change this or download appropriate language file and dictionary for (in my case) English (UK).”

I tried Barry’s cut-down version using the live CD of Wary-512. Installing 'softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet' and 'gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet' worked fine but had the same problem with selecting the English (UK) language.

I have a HD install (Wary-512) with the full version of SMO-2008 and I noticed that Barry’s version has a missing file, namely- ‘language.cfn’ from /usr/share/office2008/spell. So I have made a dotpet to install this missing file.
SMO-bk_lang_fix.pet
Description  UK English fix for softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet for Wary. Not sure for other versions.
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 23:30    Post subject:  
BarryK has uploaded corrected versions of Softmaker Office 2008, which include the missing English (UK) language file:
softmakeroffice-2008-1-x86.pet
softmakeroffice_DOC-2008-1-x86.pet
softmakeroffice_NLS-2008-1-x86.pet
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tuxtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 09:21    Post subject:  
Dewbie wrote:
BarryK has uploaded corrected versions of Softmaker Office 2008, which include the missing English (UK) language file:
softmakeroffice-2008-1-x86.pet
softmakeroffice_DOC-2008-1-x86.pet
softmakeroffice_NLS-2008-1-x86.pet


Thanks Dewbie. I missed that one.
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 18:39    Post subject:  
Please note:
I haven't changed the SoftMaker Office 2008 link in the first post.
It's still the older version, minus the UK language pack.
I'm leaving it as-is to avoid any confusion.
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darry1966

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Sep 2013, 22:34    Post subject: Re: Install BarryK's SoftMaker Office 2008.pet in older Puppies
Subject description: 2.14X / 3.01 / 4.x; also Wary 5.x		  
Dewbie wrote:
(special thanks to sickgut)

With 4.x and Wary 5.x Puppies, SoftMaker Office 2008 installs, but won't launch from Menu.
Dependency check shows nothing is needed.
However, launching from terminal generates gtkdialog error.

I've only tested this with one computer.
(Compaq Deskpro PII / 350MHz)
So results may vary, depending on hardware.

GTK / libs were installed all at once, followed by reboot.

Links to required packages:

deb2pet.rpm2pet-0.0.4.pet
glib-2.22.2-p4.pet
gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet
libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb
softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet

This SoftMaker Office 2008 .pet can be installed either before or after dependencies are installed.

I've tested with below-listed Puppies:

Classic Pup 2.14xRC5:
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
* Click Menu / Refresh menu.
Extra details in my post here.
ttuuxxx said next 2.14x (after Top9) will have glib-2.28.8.
I don't know if this will affect anything.

Puppy Linux 3.01 / 4.1.2:
(haven't tested 4.2.x; probably the same)
Must install dependencies in following order:
* Install glib-2.22.2-p4.pet.
* Install deb2pet.rpm2pet-0.0.4.pet.
* Right-click libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb, then left-click Convert to pet.
* Install newly created libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.pet.
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
* Click Menu / Shutdown / Restart JWM.
This might turn Puppy-Podcast-Grabber into a zombie.
("Kill" might not kill it.)
So try this: Menu / Shutdown / Restart X server.

Puppy Linux 4.3.1:
Must install dependencies in following order:
* Install libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb; 4.3.1 installs .debs as-is.
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.
See above; same Puppy-Podcast-Grabber problem.

Wary 5.1.1:
* Install gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet.
* Save and reboot.
* Install softmakeroffice-2008-bk.pet.


For Puppy Linux 3.01, probaly series 4 as well I have found you can use Glib-2.28.8 from Wary puppy herehttp://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-wary5/glib-2.28.8-w5c.pet. Better for compiling stuff.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Sep 2013, 07:00    Post subject:  
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deb2pet.rpm2pet-0.0.4.pet
glib-2.22.2-p4.pet
gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet
libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb


whats going on here...I have softmaker office running as it comes in standard puppy 2 and newer... none of the above should be needed? Its built to run on pretty much anything.

baffled

Mike
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Sep 2013, 14:45    Post subject:  
mikeb wrote:
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whats going on here...I have softmaker office running as it comes in standard puppy 2 and newer... none of the above should be needed? Its built to run on pretty much anything.

baffled

Mike

Now I'm baffled...
You are referring to the 2008 version, correct?

And are you referring to BarryK's .pet?
(still available in Wary repo)

Or SoftMaker's official Linux build?
(which is no longer available)

Or ttuuxxx's .pet?
(also no longer available)

(If BarryK's version ran out of the box, no way would I have gone through all that...)
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Sep 2013, 15:49    Post subject:  
Hmm ok well my bafflement is that I have run softmaker 2008 (the free one) and more recently the charity release they gave out 'as is' on any puppy I tried. Launched from the menu in the usual way though the newer version needed the desktop files moving.
So perhaps I am curious as to what exactly has done to it to make it so incompatible/in need of serious system core library changes....from what I see it revolves around gtkdialog 4 though why thats involved is a slight mystery.


regards
mike
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Sep 2013, 05:05    Post subject:  
mikeb wrote:
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So perhaps I am curious as to what exactly has done to it to make it so incompatible/in need of serious system core library changes....from what I see it revolves around gtkdialog 4 though why thats involved is a slight mystery.


What I don't get is this:
BarryK's SoftMaker Office 2008 .pet installs and runs out of the box in Classic Pup 2.14xRC5.
But it needs the gtkdialog upgrade in Wary 5.1.1, which was released almost a year later.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Sep 2013, 10:05    Post subject:  
Quote:
Classic Pup 2.14xRC5.

I believe ttuuxxx did update core libraries in this so mainly the kernel and Xorg are left as original.
Quote:
But it needs the gtkdialog upgrade in Wary 5.1.1,

so we stil have the 'why gtkdialog 4' mystery!

I also used the same package built as sfs 4 for Lucid and that works just the same so good for any recent puppy.

Well at least we have something available for older pups that does not need any updates.

By the way softmaker is modular unlike libreoffice so I made a textmaker only sfs which came to just 11MB.... probably similar to abiword + dependancies.

mike
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Sep 2013, 22:42    Post subject:  
mikeb wrote:
Quote:
so we still have the 'why gtkdialog 4' mystery!

Ahhh...I just remembered! Very Happy
BarryK wrote, here:
Quote:
SoftMaker Office 2008 is free, but requires registration to use. I have made it into a PET package. This is fully integrated into Puppy, I worked on it all morning to make it so. Mime handling with ROX-Filer also.

The first time that you run it, my special 1st-start script runs, which takes you to the SoftMaker site to obtain the license-key.

That 1st-start script involves a (gtk)dialog box.
And the gtkdialog version in later Wary builds is newer.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Sep 2013, 03:14    Post subject:  
Hmm using gtkdialog v3 would have been friendlier.

As you know though a premade profile solves the registration need Smile

mike

edit though registering does get you free fonts now and then and discounts on software...

A link to their download/registration page should be all thats needed...
http://www.freeoffice.com/en/download

Just to clarify for anyone reading this thread the later free version is a cut down of the 2012 edition and thats what is offered on the site and the registration is for.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 18:59    Post subject:  
A present for you

gtkdialog4 built on puppy 4.12.

All that may be needing adding is a matching libgio from the glib package if not already there.

So for the sake of 2 tiny mods to the sources we can have gtkdialog4 on our older pups.... seems to be compatible with gtkdialog3 scripts which is nice so could probably simply drop in as a replacement for that too.... so happy with gtk 2.12 and glibc 2.61 basically.

mike
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Oct 2013, 21:17    Post subject:  
Thanks for posting, Mike. Smile
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