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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 04:36    Post subject:  

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Just got my raspi


Nice to have hardware eh? Smile
Fellow fruterians and Puppys now joining the punnet . . .

Is that res on HDMI? If so it should be automated?
You can set the res but I did not have much luck with that.

Can not find the link but I seem to remember I did it in config.txt
which is in root
or
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 07:11    Post subject:  

Hope it is okay that I am very selfish here and ask particular things?
Now I know that one have to buy a very special high quality SD card
of the big type.

What about the connection to keyboard and mouse?

I would want to buy a USB Hub that I connect to the RPI
and that way get these possibilities.

From USB socket on Hub to USB socket on RPi?
From USB Keyboard to USB socket on Hub
From USB Mouse to USB socket on Hub
From USB Flash Memory or External HardDisk. to USB socket on Hub


Does that work or does one need to use bluetooth and IR and
Wifi and such for keyboard and mouse?

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jul 2012, 08:09    Post subject:  

Thanks lobster. Yes, hdmi. Found http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
has the info i needed
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 11:32    Post subject:  

nooby said:

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From USB socket on Hub to USB socket on RPi?
From USB Keyboard to USB socket on Hub
From USB Mouse to USB socket on Hub
From USB Flash Memory or External HardDisk. to USB socket on Hub


Does that work or does one need to use bluetooth and IR and
Wifi and such for keyboard and mouse?



I have a R_Pi model "B" with two USB ports

I purchased a Logitek 320 keyboard/mouse combo, and I plugged its USB-receiver in to one of the R_Pi's USB ports, thus enabling both with a single USB port.

Into the other USB port on the R_pi I plug a powered D-Link USB hub (7-port) which I use for USB thumb drives and an external USB hard drive.

This arrangement (modestly priced) works well for me, but others have described problems booting.

BK has described his hardware setup and provided a very interesting discussion at [/url]http://bkhome.org/arm/rp-hardware-setup.htm[url].

I do not know if the Debian arm R_Pi kernel has bluetooth or IR enabled, but I have not seen any posts describing their usage.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 23:19    Post subject:  

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Does that work or does one need to use bluetooth and IR and
Wifi and such for keyboard and mouse?


I would use a generic USB wired simple keyboard and mouse and nothing more.
You need a powered hub.

If you use a non powered hub, you might with a following wind get 3 USB ports. Don't rely on it for now.

Overclocking and over volting might fix this but this might fry your board - so not for noobys. Smile

Wi fi dongles work but have not heard of people using IR or bluetooth, though they may well be.

A new motherboard takes me about 6 months to understand its nuances in bios. Quirks and individual characteristics.

The Rpi has no bios. No hardware clock. It has an ARM CPU.

Despite that several Puppi alphas are around that we can grow with.

Performance continues to improve on some of our base files
Debian Squeeze has been replaced as the recommended base by the Rpi foundation with Raspbian Wheezy
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Those who are using the recent Debian wheezy beta will also see a very worthwhile, but somewhat smaller, improvement.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads

If Midori works above four tabs then we have a more Puppian browser.

BarryK and other smart dogs are already on it . . . Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:41    Post subject:  

Hi,

Just downloading Raspbian. It'll be interesting to see if it is fast ...

I just thought I'd share something I have been working on - it's a little gui calculator written in Python.
It seems to work, but needs tidying up. Let's say it's a "pre-Alpha".
If anyone want to give it a try and let me know if they find any bugs ...
PyCalc.tar.gz
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:47    Post subject:  

Loading my Raspberry Pi system...
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:18    Post subject:  

I might tidy up my "cockraoch" build based on Wheezy then get back to SLR (based on armed slack). I learned a lot building something more advanced than what woof could handle at the time.

Barry is working on a Raspian woof build, that will fix many bugs in woof for newer Debian based woof versions, and help me debug my Armedslack version.

More to come ... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 02:02    Post subject:  

T_Hobbit has his Rpi primed and prepared in Portugal ready to try out the efforts of our Pi-oneers. Hooray. Cool

Antiloquax using an emphasis on Arch code, Saluki styling and Python serpentile efforts might release an ISO over the summer?

Getting woof to work on ARM is beyond me. I tried. I failed. I gave up. I blamed bugman. Embarassed
I will leave the smart stuff to Micko and his soon to be revived SLR

Barry continues to improve both woof and Puppi Warp (next release - read comments)
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02912

As you know I am just a self-glorified end user. Rpi is teaching me the 'Zen in the Art of Raspberry'.
Working at this early phase is enlightening.
. . . must remember the words of Master Yoda . . .
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Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 06:58    Post subject:  

I love the idea of RPi and happy the kids that have teachers that teach them to do programming on them.

But apart from the Classroom environ.

If one look at them from a Average Joe home computer perspective then the RPi is not ideal.

Mele1000 and MK802 and Via APC and many more are easier to get going?

Take the Via APC it cost only 49USD and have more connections then RPi has and you don't need no fancy TV with HDMI cable connection but you can connect such if you have one and you get VGA out to any old monitor you may have laying around Smile HDMI TV is rather expensive. As an old retired Nooby I have thrown away some 4 VGA monitors due to them taking up too much space on the shelfs and now I only have 4 VGA LCD screen but only one HDMI screen and that is the TV for to look at TV and not for doing computing on.

So a Via APC costing only ten USD more has better connections I can connect USB keyboard and USB mouth without having to buy any Hub or to buy Wifi keyboard and Wifi mouse.

Via APC can also have Linux on it.

it has good RAM memory too but the GPU is only 12XX x 768 so it is not the highest resolution. But I am using 1024 x 768 now and that is okay with me.

So don't get me wrong I do love the RPi concept for Schoolroom but from a practical Linux point of view would not any of the others be even more practical?

Sorry if this is seen as derailing this good thread. Just trying to be practical

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 09:39    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:

Antiloquax using an emphasis on Arch code, Saluki styling and Python serpentile efforts might release an ISO over the summer?

Getting woof to work on ARM is beyond me.


Hmm, I feel that the woof business is beyond me too.
I am a little reluctant to even attempt it, as the SAP is so good!

If I did manage to do something, it probably wouldn't be very Puppy-like as my focus is all on coding, rather than the sort of complete "desktop" that Puppy offers.

Probably I am better spending my time learning programming!
Just out of interest - would PPM work with the Arch repos?
woof woof!

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 14:52    Post subject:  

nooby said:
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Mele1000 and MK802 and Via APC and many more are easier to get going?

Take the Via APC it cost only 49USD and have more connections then RPi has and you don't need no fancy TV with HDMI cable connection but you can connect such if you have one and you get VGA out to any old monitor you may have laying around HDMI TV is rather expensive. As an old retired Nooby I have thrown away some 4 VGA monitors due to them taking up too much space on the shelfs and now I only have 4 VGA LCD screen but only one HDMI screen and that is the TV for to look at TV and not for doing computing on.

Have you looked in your area for a used DVI-D monitor (can be used with HDMI to DVI-D cable or adapter)? There are a lot of these around used at pretty good prices. In my local area the online want-ads have the monitors for $20-40 USD. I got one free from a Windows 2000 system that was headed for the junk store. It works great! Amazon.com has the HDMI-DVD-D cable for $5-7 USD. So a new $150-200 USD monitor is not required.

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So don't get me wrong I do love the RPi concept for Schoolroom but from a practical Linux point of view would not any of the others be even more practical?

Sorry if this is seen as derailing this good thread. Just trying to be practical.

While the devices you mention might have some advantages, how large is their user base? There are now reportedly > 200,000 R_pi in the wild, and (I have heard) 4,000 being manufactured per day, and group sales now just being opened up. Lots of schoolchildren are coming on board, and the estimate of one million sales by the end of the year may not be grossly over optimistic.
If only 10 percent of those become Puppy users the whole enterprise would be enhanced. Good things happen when the user base becomes large. Puppy might even start appearing on arm-powered phones and tablets!
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2012, 05:15    Post subject:  

every new desktop/laptop comes with stickers on it, it will be nice if our Puppy graphicians could prepare some for Puppy and RPi, it could be something like that (i've found similar in Linux Format magazine for other distros):
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2012, 10:39    Post subject:  

antiloquax wrote:

Just out of interest - would PPM work with the Arch repos?
woof woof!


As far as I am aware, if created with woof, yes indeed. Cool

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2012, 04:47    Post subject:  

Hi guys,

Just got my Pi and great to see the work going ahead that will let me use Puppy Smile

Unless I've been a bit blind and missed them then I'm really looking forward to seeing the first releases for me to download and boot!

Not sure I'm much cop at helping the progress but wanted to voice my avid support since Puppy is the only version Linux that's ever got me interested enough to use it let alone think about using it long term instead of MS Windows...

Cheers for the efforts!

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