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Fatdog64-600 Final and 601 (July 2012)
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2012, 11:12    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
I'm not sure how you prevent 32-bit compatibility.
Choose no when asked whether you'd to install 32-bit libraries.

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When I run the script like:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.59.run

The screen is quite messy and it's hard to follow the prompts.
Yes, very messy. Same here too.

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Previous attempts with 32-bit, not problems at all.
Because there aren't multiple libraries involved.

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What special things did you do to make the the pet?
Nothing, I already informed you how I did it: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76247&start=450.

cheers!

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Barburo


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2012, 15:04    Post subject:
Subject description: Cannot get FD 601 to boot on my laptop
 

I run many different puppies and other distros on my laptop, but FD601 just hangs - it finds and identifies the vmlinuz file, but just hangs on initrd. I downloaded Fatdog64-601-Firefox.iso from the Greek mirror and checked the md5sum (OK).
I have tried all sorts of parameters like waitdev and various pci parms but nothing happens and there are no error messages. Has anyone else encountered this?
I think it' could be a kernel problem but I have never had any kernel issues with this machine.
Through Grub I run Windows 7, Lighthouse64, Mint 11, Mint Debian, Macpup 528v2, Saluki 021, Racy puppy, which covers many kernels.
I have set up and run with no problems FD600 on my regular 64 bit desktop..
I'm stumped on this one. Any suggestions?

My laptop is Acer Aspire 5810tz-4775 and Hardinfo gives:
Processor: 2x Genuine Intel(R) CPU U4100 @ 1.30GHz
Memory: 3987MB Resolution: 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset
SCSI Disks: ATA Hitachi HTS54505 MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ862AS

I use grub to boot everything, and my preferred method for adding a new distro is:
- download the .iso, check md5sum
- open the iso and copy the required files to a directory.
- Add an entry for the new distro to menu.lst
- reboot and test

My existing menu.lst entry for FD601 is:
title Fat Dog 601 (on /dev/sda5 - ext4)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /FatDog601/vmlinuz waitdev=3 pci=nocrs loglevel=7
initrd /FatDog601/initrd

sda5 is an extended partition formatted to ext4, and the two files in /FatDog601 are vmlinuz and initrd.

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smokey01


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2012, 16:51    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

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What special things did you do to make the the pet?
Nothing, I already informed you how I did it: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76247&start=450.
cheers!


So you did, but I couldn't find it, Sorry.

Thanks again.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jul 2012, 16:53    Post subject:
Subject description: Cannot get FD 601 to boot on my laptop
 

Barburo wrote:
but FD601 just hangs - it finds and identifies the vmlinuz file, but just hangs on initrd..

This sounds like the same behaviour I get when trying to boot FD600 off a flash drive - it's a BIOS issue. My solution is to use the small-initrd version from here.

I don't know if there is a small-initrd release for 601.
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duke93535


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Location: California , High Desert

PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 01:27    Post subject: xcompmgr & JWM  

I have JWM working fairly well on Fatdog 601, I like using xcompmgr (for shadowing). The last JWM snapshot that works with it for me is 523. I had to compile it myself.

I have also modified the /usr/bin/jwm_menu_create, first I removed the corner tags (line #353 and #359) and then corrected one line about #391 for the pager styles foreground (This fixes the color tag error).

Reads.

Code:
<Foreground>'${PAGERG}'</Foreground>


Should be.

Code:
<Foreground>'${PAGERFG}'</Foreground>


This fixes the errors listed with “jwm -p” in terminal.
Of coarse, you have to do a “fixmenus” in terminal and restart JWM to see changes.

I than added retrovol for a tray volume control and blinky for network monitor. Don’t start them from the Startup file. You have to start both from a Startup Command in /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal, like so.

Added:

<StartupCommand>blinky-tray -bg “#0e58b3“</StartupCommand>
<StartupCommand>retrovol</StartupCommand>

Starting them from there, causes no problems for Openbox, when you use it.

Of coarse, I made other personal changes to jwm_menu_create, always keeping a backup as I’d go. I also repaired some xxxx.desktop files (Categories) and renamed some, to get them to go alphabetical with the name inside.

retrovol-0.12-x86_64.pet (thanks smokey01) is from here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79537&start=135

blinky_tray-0.8.1 is from here:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/source/b/
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 02:14    Post subject:  

Has anyone managed to compile the latest Filezilla for Fatdog-601?

It needs xwWidgets to be installed. So when I try to compile that I get more problems.

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 07:38    Post subject:  

barburo wrote:
but FD601 just hangs - it finds and identifies the vmlinuz file, but just hangs on initrd..
Since you use grub, do you ever get to see the message of initrd being loaded? If not, then like rcrsn51 said it's probably because of your laptop doesn't support big initrd.

rcrsn51 wrote:
I don't know if there is a small-initrd release for 601.
There isn't one yet, but I'll make one for the seamonkey iso.

EDIT: 601-small-initrd is now available in the mirrors:
- http://puppy-linux.org/fatdog64/ (thanks to Q5sys)
- http://www.smokey01.com/jamesbond/fatdog64/ (thanks to smokey01).

duke93535 wrote:
corrected one line about #391 for the pager styles foreground
Thank you, fixed.

duke93535 wrote:
blinky_tray-0.8.1 is from here: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/source/b/
You can also get blinky from jwm_applets pet.

smokey01 wrote:
Has anyone managed to compile the latest Filezilla for Fatdog-601?

It needs xwWidgets to be installed. So when I try to compile that I get more problems.
I haven't tried that. Did you use the wxWidgets from the package repo, or did you roll up your own?
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 08:22    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:


smokey01 wrote:
Has anyone managed to compile the latest Filezilla for Fatdog-601?

It needs xwWidgets to be installed. So when I try to compile that I get more problems.
I haven't tried that. Did you use the wxWidgets from the package repo, or did you roll up your own?


I did try to roll my own but I was unsuccessful.

I then tried the ones in the repo but had no luck either. When compiling filezilla during the ./configure process the xwwidgets could not be found after both pets were installed.

CatDude was working on it too so I'm not sure what progress he has made.

I really like filezilla as it lets you copy between directories on websites, something gFTP can't do.

Regards

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maddmike

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 09:15    Post subject: Taskbar icons
Subject description: Windows are listed in the taskbar, but they don't show the proper icons.
 

Fatdog 600 works great for me. There is just one weird problem I've found. The taskbar entries for open windows don't show the icons for each application; they all look the same. Screenshot attached.

Does anyone else have this behavior? Does anyone know how to solve it? I've seen the same thing on two PCs with every version of Fatdog I've tried, which goes back to 500.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2012, 15:36    Post subject:  

Thanks to rcrsn51 and jamesbond.
The fd600 version with a small initrd did work for me - I was unaware of that option. Thanks again.
B.

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DC


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2012, 06:03    Post subject: proverbial DVB  

Hi J & K,

Whilst testing DVB with my old twinhan I found the file "dvb-usb-dibusb-5.0.0.11.fw" was missing. I'd just like to know was it left out / old /not required etc.

FYI I found the file in Fatdog 511 and it works fine.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2012, 10:28    Post subject:
Subject description: lxpanel
 

Hi madmike,

Lxpanel-0.5.9 in the Fatdog64-600 repository will display program icons in the taskbar. It will also change the main menu icons.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2012, 20:11    Post subject: Re: unused disk space  

timothyli wrote:
My favourite feature is the ability to boot the iso directly from grub.

title fatdog64
kernel /memdisk iso
initrd /Fatdog64-600-firefox.iso

rcrsn51 wrote:
I wonder if memdisk is less demanding. I believe that this is a fairly new feature in syslinux.

I finally tested this using an ext3 hard drive partition. I copied memdisk out of FD600 from /usr/share/syslinux and booted with legacy GRUB. It worked fine.

[Edit] For people using the GRUB2 bootable flash drive method, this should work:
Code:
menuentry "Fatdog ISO" {
 loopback loop /Fatdog64-601-Firefox.iso
 linux (loop)/vmlinuz
 initrd (loop)/initrd
}
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul 2012, 14:49    Post subject: Transmission  

Fatdog is working flawlessly with the exception of Firefox occasionally shutting down on its own.

Wondering if there is an up-dated transmission compatible with the over-sized dog? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jul 2012, 21:29    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
I then tried the ones in the repo but had no luck either. When compiling filezilla during the ./configure process the xwwidgets could not be found after both pets were installed.
Ah, I see. That's because FileZilla requires that wxWidgets is compiled with unicode, the one in the repo isn't.

DC wrote:
Whilst testing DVB with my old twinhan I found the file "dvb-usb-dibusb-5.0.0.11.fw" was missing. I'd just like to know was it left out / old /not required etc.
Not sure. Linux-firmware doesn't seem to have a copy of that file anymore. Does your DVB work without it? If not, I'll try to find that in my old copy of 511, or better yet, send me that file and I'll put it in. If you do, tell me which directory I need to put it in, too. Thanks.

rcrsn51 wrote:
I wonder if memdisk is less demanding. I believe that this is a fairly new feature in syslinux.
Yes, because when it loads stuff to memory it can assure that they are all contiguous. Glad to see it work.

Fishy wrote:
Wondering if there is an up-dated transmission compatible with the over-sized dog?
Not that I know of, still waiting for volunteer ... Wink
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