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darkcity


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2012, 14:55    Post_subject:  Help needed writing the Wiki
Sub_title: contributions welcome
 

If anybody can lend a hand it would be greatly appreciated. Even if it just correcting spelling and grammar, or commenting on pages. Its an easy way to give back to the project. Ideally, the Wiki would contain all there is to know about the Puppy universe, but in a structured manor.

At the moment there are only three regular contributors. Lobster keeping a track of new projects, Coolpup adding technical information and links to his/her software, and me indexing and trying to add easy to understand entries.

Known Issues
-Language support is bad to non-existent, to add a page in another language I would recommend prefixing the name with the two-letter country code and including category at the bottom. For example, AbiWord -
page name - FrAbiWord
category - CategoryFr
-wikka software is limited
-its a pain, adding info on forum and wiki


Routes to enhancement
-upgrade to latest Wikka software
-install wysiwyg plugin
-install (and write) language plugin
-write convertor phpBB code to/from Wikka code
-integrate with forum


to find out how to get an account and more wiki info see-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WikiIndex

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:39    Post_subject:  

First of all, thank you to all who have contributed! Tons keep changing & if you find yourself repeating yourself in this forum then it might be time for contributing to or creating a wiki page. (hint, hint)

I used to help a lot with the old wiki although I'm not sure where it went to....

Well, darkcity, for the enhancements you'll need to get Raffy's attention on that, of course. Hopefully he weathered the flooding over there okay though.

Could you explain more on why the enhancements would help (i.e. why worth the time)?
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 06:03    Post_subject:  

Hi J Rey

The old wiki was up simultaneously with the new one. Not sure why it changed? I added some of the old pages to the new wiki. I think it was taken down so people would get confused. Raffy might still have the original information if you want it.

Why bother with the enhancement, I'll take it one at a time?

-upgrade to latest Wikka software
Wikka version is out of date, 1.3 has redirect and improved security. Anchors and table of contents need adding in future version, in my opinion. Also, pages should be remembered when deleted. Although only admins can delete, it is useful to keep a record.

-install wysiwyg plugin
Easier to contribute

-install (and write) language plugin
Language support not good - international users can't use or contribute. In my head I had an idea for synchronizing different languages

-write convertor phpBB code to/from Wikka code
Post useful forum info to wikka, without have to re-add formatting, link and image info.

-integration with forum
You could add links in forum by [wiki]SaveFile[/wiki], share user names?

Wikka isn't great I started with Sycamore (Wikispot) and have used MediaWiki (wikipedia). Some people have said dump Wikka and use something else - notably DokuWiki, see http://puppy.b0x.me/wiki/doku.php. But I think the realistic approach is to enhance what we have.

http://www.wikimatrix.org/compare/DokuWiki+MediaWiki+Sycamore+WikkaWiki

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2012, 16:43    Post_subject:  

I can't edit almost any public page, create new ones or post comments. Is this normal? Maybe my account(2010) was deactivated. Whatever, I don't care too much about it.


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2012, 18:47    Post_subject: old wiki  

There have been a number of spam attacks in the past, and some accounts have been deleted. If your account has been accidentally deleted, please give me your email address so that I can recreate your account.

I will work on the upgrade on/before August 21.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2012, 19:19    Post_subject:  

@ Wow
Clearly that isn't normal. The whole point of wikis is to make it easy to collaborate.

@ Raffy
Thanks for looking after the wiki, some of upgrade features will be helpful.

Cool

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 11:22    Post_subject: upgrade completed  

The upgrade is completed - let's hope it is successful.

The page styles are new, and am still getting familiar with the new templates.

Let me know if you encounter any issues.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:52    Post_subject:  

Nice work ; -)

We can now, redirect pages ; -)
http://docs.wikkawiki.org/RedirectActionInfo

and better still link to a specific header on a page, for example-

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ComponentHowTo#hn_Also_on_the_Wiki

so we can make table of contents and usable longer pages.

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on the localization front, this page talks about using gettext,
anybody understand what its on about?
http://docs.wikkawiki.org/LocalizationProposal

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug 2012, 10:46    Post_subject:  

I see the settings have revert to default on the Wiki. Comments aren't expanded and non existent pages don't have a dashed underscore.

Also, there are some bugs in the software. I've report the fact you can't indent tables without messing up the rest of the page. I will also report that sometimes you need a double return when a single should do and link with # in break, although using [[ ]] fixes them.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=626927#626927

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Aug 2012, 07:14    Post_subject: comments  

Will check on these issues this week. In the config, comments are not hidden (same as before), so the new version must have ignored it.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 03:23    Post_subject:  

1.3.3 came out in May 2012. When do we upgrade?
http://wikkawiki.org/HomePage

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 09:10    Post_subject:  

the weird part is the doc homepage doesn't mention 1.3.3
and there is no 'whats new page' for 1.3.3

http://docs.wikkawiki.org/HomePage

maybe 1.3.3 is a development release?

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 09:31    Post_subject: upgrading  

Lobster wrote:
1.3.3 came out in May 2012. When do we upgrade?


Yes, weird, look at the wikkawiki docs (see below).

OK, will have to upgrade again this weekend or whenever I get a fast connection while I travel.
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 04:59    Post_subject:  

We could ask them what's happening . . . Smile

Quote:
Wikka devs, drop us a note at community@wikkawiki.org community <at> wikkawiki.org, or drop in on our Freenode IRC channel, #wikka.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 09:58    Post_subject:  

Lobster wrote:
We could ask them what's happening . . . Smile

Quote:
Wikka devs, drop us a note at community@wikkawiki.org community <at> wikkawiki.org, or drop in on our Freenode IRC channel, #wikka.


done - I've email one of the devs Cool

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