Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[Ray MK]

Thanks gcmartin for your suggestion, will read and try to understand.
Did try before but it all got too much and strained my brain.
However, will try again.
Thanks again - very best regards - Ray

[Colonel Panic]

[otropogo]

I installed Knoppix 7.0.2 LiveDVD to an 8GB USB thumbdrive and consider it the best Knoppix ever, by far. It may well be the best Linux LiveDVD ever.

The thumbdrive installation, created on a three year old laptop, was able to boot and load a workable gui on three other desktop PCs of various older vintages. Only one of these required a bit of adjustment, without needing to access the command line, to get the display right.

On the laptop, it takes under 60 seconds to fully load from the USB thumbdrive. The package management system provided is fairly solid. I managed to install UFraw to run with GIMP and Rawstudio standalone without problems. A couple of other installs failed, admittedly. Among them was AVclam.

The choice of preinstalled programs is staggering. The LiveDVD is reported to be 9GB uncompressed. If you can afford to dedicate an 8GB thumbdrive to it, this distro is worth it if only to try out Linux apps before installing them. The biggest issue I see as a non-command line Puppy user is that installing new apps may disable existing ones.

The English forum at Knoppix.org is often informative. Participants from the busier German Knoppix forum, including Klaus Knopper himself, follow this forum too, and will often jump in with suggestions and clarification.

For me, one of the chief issues when hunting for a new distro is durability and support. For privately produced distros, this can be a painfully acute problem. Projects such as Ultilex and SLAX appear, and seem to be perfect. But then, a year or too later, when you're still waiting for an update, or the initial interest and community support have evaporated, it begins to look like a dead end.

Although there are other one-man distros that have gone the distance, few have the scope, the depth of community support, and the dependable continuity of Knoppix. Although there have been some major missteps, Knopper has managed to bring out a new version every year, and this time, seems to have hit the nail on the head.

This is a LiveDVD that's well worth the trouble of downloading and burning for a test run, if nothing else.

PS. I still use Puppy (Lupuplus libre) every day out of habit, and partly because I haven't yet configured the Knoppix desktop confortably (the fusion thing is a bit annoying, and I haven't yet gotten a working AV program installed, so I don't infect my Windows systems). I'd welcome comments from anyone else who's tried Knoppix 7.0.2

[gcmartin]

hi @Otropogo.

I have been a user of Knoppix since version 3.7. Knoppix is a very good, well thought-thru, and feature rich disto.

Knoppix was the first RAM based OS I ever ran. (Even before I experimented with early Puppy)

I must agree with you about its feature richness. But, I must, also, share that its community is NOT...I repeat, NOT a comparison to the Puppy community. They do provide help, sometimes, but not nearly as responsive or necessary as in-depth as what is found here in the Puppy forum.

For those of us who do use Knoppix, I encourage all to try the "toram" boot options if want it to even remotely compare to Puppy performance. Even then, it is better than the USB/HDD based LInux operations.

PUPPY and its 64bit derivatives particularly LightHouse64, though not be as feature rich, is a formidable distro to compare against. And, subsystem for subsystem, comparative application for application, Puppy will easily match/exceed what, even, Knoppix in RAM does.

The primary "differenters" are Puppy's exceptional performance and its exceptional support community found in the forum.

Hope this makes clear what I've seen over the almost decade of use.

Here to help

[otropogo]

[gcmartin]

[nooby]

I love Knoppix but their forum has one active there
that does not like confused users like me so I don't dare
to join.

I am still angry over how he treated a poor newbie that
asked about how to do an iso boot of Knoppix.

I know that ICPUG and gcmartin are friendly users
but I can not ask them to support me there in case
because that is not proper to do. To set up people
against each other on a forum.

So unfortunately knoppix 7.02 has to wait or I have
to ask here in Puppy forum but that is not fair either.

I want to use Knoppix for this Debian program.

http://www.makehuman.org/download

Ubuntu/Debian i386 .deb Installer 58 MB

But it require some library that my knoppix does not have.
I am not used to do such installations where it miss out
on libraries. I drown in all the details of what one are
supposed to do to get it all right.

When I try to install it on Ubuntu or Linux mint they
it also miss those libraries.

I don't know if one can install it on Lupu maybe?
Who could understand such things???

Haha I could install it on Ms Win 7 or Vista but
I hate Ms Win so that is a kind last resort next year
if I never get help to get it going on linux

[nooby]

I've downloaded the iso of this one PCLinuxOS PCLOS as it also is named

[greengeek]

[Billtoo]

I installed slackware 14 to a 7 year old hp pavilion a810n desktop pc.
Updated with slackpkg.
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1521MB (249MB used)
Operating System Slackware 14.0
User Name Bill (Unknown)
Date/Time Thu 23 Aug 2012 04:24:00 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.2.27-smp (i686)
Compiled #2 SMP Mon Aug 13 17:44:26 CDT 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.7.1 (GCC)
Distribution Slackware 14.0
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes

It's working great on this pc.
Compiling large apps takes a while but it gets the job done.

[nooby]

[WindUpToy]

I have installed PCLOS 2012.6 LXDE and just tried the remastering.

Firstly I had to get draklive-install pkg to make it work.
Secondly I had to get the pkg using Puppy to download it because its dumb connection wizard couldn't connect to UMTS/3G.
It couldn't even find a network.

Then to the remaster.
45 minutes later I cancelled the process at 19%.

What can I say without being uncharitable?

[otropogo]

[nooby]

WindUpToy thanks for that test.
I would not even have known
to do what you retell here.

Much appreciated you did this.

[Colonel Panic]