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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Aug 2012, 05:32    Post subject:  

Smokey01. Yep, the nvidia driver...as the pet name says: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/nvidia-295.59-k3.4.2...is for kernel 3.4.2 version.
My dpups have tendency to have different kernels...

So...just use getnvidia pet and compile almost automatically nvidia pet by yourself.
Install from the repo getnvidia, load devx sfs and kernel source sfs and let the getnvidia do the job.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Aug 2012, 08:58    Post subject:  

It's all good. The only reason I mentioned it was maybe there is a way we can make the PPM only download the appropriate packages for the distro, kernel specific.

BTW, CatDude and I have modified puppyluvr Multipup. It now works with FatDog, Slacko and Saluki providing Rox is installed.

I will try it on Exprimo, I would expect it to work now.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog64-600/Multipup-3.3-Hacked.pet


Cheers

pemasu wrote:
Smokey01. Yep, the nvidia driver...as the pet name says: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/nvidia-295.59-k3.4.2...is for kernel 3.4.2 version.
My dpups have tendency to have different kernels...

So...just use getnvidia pet and compile almost automatically nvidia pet by yourself.
Install from the repo getnvidia, load devx sfs and kernel source sfs and let the getnvidia do the job.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Aug 2012, 10:30    Post subject:  

Smokey01. I think there is mechanism in PPM not to show inappropriate packages. I think all goes how you create pet.specs file. I should dig Barry Kaulers blog. I remember there was post how to do it. I have been just lazy.

Or...not lazy...just hands full with other thing. Posting this from debian wheezy packages based dpup. But this is just very pre-alpha construct. Dont ask me to post this for a long time. But it works now. A lot of missing packages, I am sure when I start to debug applications.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Aug 2012, 22:20    Post subject:
Subject description: Docear, xpdf and xournal - requests for dpup
 

Cheers pemasu,
I second iguleder's recent sentiment about Exprimo's future potential - please don't feel too lonely that you seem to be the only Dpup developer and therefore demand for this main derivative is in decline Smile. It is my go-to pupplet on my Lenovo T60 - and I have about 6 others to choose from - because I find it the most stable and pleasurable to use, so my compliments to you!
I missed the notice that you'd upgraded to 5.X.15, so will overhaul my 5.X.14 setup presently. In the meantime, I was casting an eye over your pet repository and wonder if I might post a few requests for pets please? These may well work just as fine as the native linux (deb, tar.gz) formats that I have cobbled together, but perhaps a proper pet packaging might smooth out the odd glitch when running in Puppy/dpup:
1) Docear http://www.docear.org/software/download/. Research tool: mindmapping, pdf file management and bibliography creation, with planner features included. Just gone to beta v.5 and nearly ready for the Big Release. I haven't the nous to package it into a pet myself, but would love to see someone compile it for dpup. However, it really needs a pdf reader with annotation support. I've gone straight to Foxit Reader (a habit from my daze in XP) but the linux version doesn't support annotations. Searching on the forums I found that muggins (I think) recommended XPDF+Xournal as a great open-source alternative. You already have created a pet of the latest Xournal 0.4.5 I see, so could I also request:
2) XPDF 3.0.3. ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ [abushcrafter created pets yonks ago, but I can't find any live links to his efforts]

Thanks in advance to anyone who can compile and post pets for the dpup (and wider) collective,
Cheers Smile

UPDATE: XPDF was a relatively simple exercise of copying the relevant files from the tar.gz to their locations outlined in the 'READ ME' - works fine in 5.X.14 and just some cosmetics required to nominate it as the default PDF reader. Docear is similarly working very sweetly straight from the tar.gz extracted into the root directory - just menu entries, desktop icons etc lacking, but I bet I can whip up a hotkey combo to have it running immediately on command. Xournal I see has recently been updated to 0.4.7, but your 0.4.5 version works fine, pemasu.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:01    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Smokey01. I think there is mechanism in PPM not to show inappropriate packages. I think all goes how you create pet.specs file. I should dig Barry Kaulers blog. I remember there was post how to do it. I have been just lazy.



There is but I hadn't noticed it before. I will give it a try.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2012, 09:52    Post subject:  

http://www.docear.org/

I have created pet and sfs of docear-1.0.5b.

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/docear-1.0.5b.pet

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/docear-1.0.5b.sfs

About xpdf-3.0.3. I dont have experience of compiling pdf apps. They seem to demand libs I dont have a glue about. Freetype2 lib headers. For example. What it is. There is only freetype6 which we use. I dont bother to find out. The install file in xpdf was not very helpful. Sorry.

checking where to find the freetype2 header files...
checking ft2build.h usability... no
checking ft2build.h presence... no
checking for ft2build.h... no
not using freetype2 library

But...there is xpdf-3.0.2 in debian squeeze repo. If there is special need for xpdf...I recommed to test it.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2012, 16:22    Post subject: nvidia graphic adapter is missing.  

Hi Pemasu
pemasu wrote:
...
So...just use getnvidia pet and compile almost automatically nvidia pet by yourself.
Install from the repo getnvidia, load devx sfs and kernel source sfs and let the getnvidia do the job.

on 5X15
here having a nvidia GeForce 2 MX200
the driver compilation went good but the i get a warningtelling that the « nvidia graphic adapter is missing..»
I googled around and have difficulties to find what I am missing.
So a few help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2012, 16:46    Post subject:  

It looks like nvidia kernel module is not loaded, for some reason...or it is not even compiled. Or your graphics is not supported.
You should check xorg.0.log and dmesg and xerrs.log also.

Check in console: find /lib/modules -name nvidia.ko
if it does exist.
And I suppose you need to reboot before you can use it.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2012, 18:00    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
http://www.docear.org/

I have created pet and sfs of docear-1.0.5b.

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/docear-1.0.5b.pet

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/docear-1.0.5b.sfs
<snip>

But...there is xpdf-3.0.2 in debian squeeze repo. If there is special need for xpdf...I recommed to test it.

MANY THANKS pemasu! I'm downloading now and testing across a range of pupplets through the week - reckon it should work fine on most 32-bit versions(?I'll explore, anyway). Thank you too for the heads up on XPDF in the squeeze repository. I think I have that one installed, but I'm on another computer at present - bit hazy with all the frantic testing I did yesterday, but I think I had absolutely no problem with it.
Again, most appreciated, thank you Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 00:16    Post subject: nvidia graphic adapter is missing.  

Hi Pemasu,
Quote:
Check in console: find /lib/modules -name nvidia.ko
if it does exist.

/lib/modules/3.4.2-dpup/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is well present (see my posts first attachment)
and
find /lib/modules -name nvidia.ko
does not return any message nor error message ... Question

got the same using 5X3.4.2.9 ...
maybe my hardware is to old ... compaq evo 510 PIV + Nvidia GeForce2 NV11DDR MX200

what is working:
- the nv_drv.so xorg driver is the one working here
thanks anyway...
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 00:37    Post subject:  

Charlie6. I suppose you can check the supported graphics from nvidia pages.
Sorry. I didnt notice you had showed the presence of nvidia.ko.
About find /lib/modules -name nvidia.ko
It should show the nvidia.ko location. I wonder what went wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 01:12    Post subject:  

Hi Pemasu ... good morning!
Quote:
Charlie6. I suppose you can check the supported graphics from nvidia pages.

from shinobar
http://182.164.210.56/puppy/opt/nvidia-supported-cards.txt
Quote:
...The 96.43.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:


NVIDIA GPU product Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111 <<<<<<<<<<< here Smile
GeForce2 Go 0x0112


but shinobar's pet does not have k3.4.2 stuff compiled yet;
the against k2.6.39.4 nvidia.ko is 11M sized; and there is a nvidia_drv.s0 (ca. 8M) present; i'll have a look if the needed libs are also present ...in the with getnvidia-built driver...
thanks anyway ... have a nice day !
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:18    Post subject: NVIDIA driver  

@charlie6
Quote:
...The 96.43.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:


NVIDIA GPU product Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111 <<<<<<<<<<< here Smile
GeForce2 Go 0x0112

Means you need to get and compile the NVIDIA driver of version 96.43.xx.
I am sorry but the getnvidia does not support older drivers.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Aug 2012, 01:35    Post subject:  

double post ==> deleted
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Aug 2012, 01:59    Post subject: ( SOLVED ) Re: NVIDIA driver  

Hi shinobar,
Goog news ==> SOLVED !
thanks for your reply ... now I understand why i got no success.
shinobar wrote:
@charlie6
Quote:
...The 96.43.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
NVIDIA GPU product Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111 <<<<<<<<<<< here Smile


Means you need to get and compile the NVIDIA driver of version 96.43.xx.
I am sorry but the getnvidia does not support older drivers.


I then could install the right driver this way:
- on the NVIDIA website download screen, have selected the "Legacy" option to get this old driver;
- downloaded the 96.43.xx NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20-pkg1.run driver installer;
- just followed the nvidia provided instructions (see on website)
- quit the X desktop and launched when prompted
Code:
#sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20-pkg1.run

afterwards follow displayed instructions and do
Code:
# reboot
when finished
it runs like a charm...glxgears (extracted and copied from xorg-high-001.pet) reports about 4500 frames in 5 seconds ... Shocked
Charlie Very Happy
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