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ldolse

Joined: 23 Oct 2009
Posts: 366

PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 14:12    Post_subject: Re: anyone figure out way to control the volume  

thisisvv wrote:
still love this MPD but how do we control the volume ....my volume comes full 100% out of this MPD ->DAC->Active crossover->Amp

also i tried full blwon puppy linux and a player where in software i controil the voume but it is not sounding right at all...

anmy ideas...

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Hi thisvv, I provided instructions for this several pages back but never received a response from you:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70052&start=345

Let me know if you something isn't working/doesn't make sense.
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yakudi

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2012, 10:14    Post_subject: Works Great! How about adding Shairport?  

First of All, please let me express a heartfelt thanks. mpdpup has breathed new life into my old laptop and allowed me to have a silent, efficient and stable music jukebox in my family room.

I am linux *newb* and it took me quite a while to figure out how to get it to boot since my laptop bios does not allow booting from USB. I finally figured it out (had to edit menu.lst and change usbflash to dev/hda1).

before mpdpup I was running, xp+itunes and the setup was really slow and made the laptop overheat.

One function I find missing is to be able to use airplay. I had shairport4w which is a windows port of shairport (https://github.com/albertz/shairport). So, I could either play stored music or, use my iPhone to stream to the speakers.

I looked into this and according to http://blog.mornati.net/2012/03/22/shairport-turn-your-linux-in-an-airplay-speaker/ you can install it on fedora using the commands listed in the link.

However, due to my *newbness* I have no clue how to add "openssl-devel libao libao-devel perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA perl-IO-Socket-INET6 perl-libwww-perl avahi-tools". Nor do I know enough to understand the next steps...

So, a.can shairport live peacefully with mpd? and if so, b. can someone be kind enough to write step-by-step instructions for this?
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ldolse

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2012, 21:36    Post_subject: Re: Works Great! How about adding Shairport?  

yakudi wrote:
One function I find missing is to be able to use airplay. I had shairport4w which is a windows port of shairport (https://github.com/albertz/shairport). So, I could either play stored music or, use my iPhone to stream to the speakers.

However, due to my *newbness* I have no clue how to add "openssl-devel libao libao-devel perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA perl-IO-Socket-INET6 perl-libwww-perl avahi-tools". Nor do I know enough to understand the next steps...


Hi, Yakudi. Glad you were able to get mpdPup installed. Regarding Shairport, unfortunately based on your package list above I can see that it's based on Perl. It's certainly possible to get this working on mpdPup, but I know from past experience that getting perl based projects installed can require quite a bit of effort and tinkering. That's why I ultimately decided to leave Perl out of the mpdPup core packages. That said, I believe it's in the devx file for people who want to tinker. At a high level a few things would be required:
  • Copy the devx file in the first post to your flash drive, add it to the list of files to be loaded using the bootmanager in XWindows
  • Compile/Install Libao (I can help you if you actually proceed with this Smile )
  • Use perl to install CPAN, muddle through CPAN to install all the other packages
  • Install Shairport using the instructions on Github, cross fingers


A better use of your time might be to petition the mpd core developers to add native support - RAOP/Airtunes nearly made it into mpd 0.17 but was dropped because the original RAOP developer never fixed all the bugs. The developers are available on the mpd dev team alias. Old thread here:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicpd.devel/1860
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starhawk

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2012, 21:52    Post_subject:  

I've got a real newb question here... what is it exactly that MPDPup does? How does one use it?

...I assume that it provides a central location for music storage, and ways of playing music from that central storage device over a network (streaming)?

Bear in mind I'm no audiophile, and I have a smallish (relatively speaking) music collection... so I've never looked into anything like what this sounds to be.

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ldolse

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2012, 22:45    Post_subject:  

Hi Starhawk,

Basically mpdPup is all about making it easy to install Music Player Daemon (MPD) on the network. MPD is a music playing server, the only way to communicate with/control it is through networked clients. It doesn't store any music, I originally designed it for accessing music over a CIFS share, but later added local storage support (which still has kinks to work out). A lot of mpdPup users (like Yakudi who just posted) aren't necessarily hardcore audiophiles, they're just want to repurpose old hardware into dedicated network music players.

As many audiophiles don't come from a computing background, getting everything set up can be a real challenge, so the idea is to have everything pre-configured or wizard based from an install/setup perspective, and also to have the OS optimized for minimal overhead.

Even for people that have computing backgrounds I think there are still benefits as more advanced things are also pre-configured up like hardware remote control, LCD support, etc. That's basically my own personal benefit in maintaining the project - any research I do becomes hard-coded in the iso so that I don't have to go off and research it again when I upgrade the base OS.

Further reading:
What MPD is and is Not

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PET-240

Joined: 22 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2012, 22:55    Post_subject: iMon  

Hey idolse,

Just wondering what header the iMon connects to on the board?

Is it the usb bus?

Thanks,

Drew.
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ldolse

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2012, 02:48    Post_subject:  

Hi Pet-240, yes - it's USB based.

Depending on which specific iMon model you get it may have a separate power connection for 5 volts of power - if your motherboard power supply doesn't have the weird connector this cable expects it may take a bit of jerry rigging - I took pictures when I did it so I can post a tutorial at some point.
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PET-240

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2012, 05:16    Post_subject:  

Bugger wanting to keep just the WaveIO on the USB bus. Have you seen MPod/MPad working correctly yet? I've had stuff all time to play so just been lurking.
Thanks for the continued efforts!

Cheers,

Drew.
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ldolse

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2012, 12:46    Post_subject:  

MPoD/MPaD work fine for me - the only issue I'm definitively aware of is auto-discovery which I'm resolving in the next release (which is moving steadily closer believe it or not). I'm aware you've seen some weirdness with cover art, and while I'll admit I've seen some oddities, cover art in general works just fine for me. At some point I do intend to do a bit more digging.

Regarding USB, I doubt that the iMon and WaveIO would really compete much for resources - the iMon communication is very low bandwidth/intermittent. I recommend giving it a listen before you condemn it. Depending on which type of Mobo you had you could also add an additional USB PCI card - either a high end one like the SOTM for the WaveIO, or a low end one for the iMon just to separate the two devices on the PCI bus.
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audiosm

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Sep 2012, 08:28    Post_subject:
Sub_title: WaveIO detection
 

My mpdpup is sounding very good now, after asking here for some upgrade advice I have added the WaveIO usb interface, this is made noticeable improvement, now using the SPDIF later to try I2S may be better still , thanks for the recommendation . On first impression this is now better than my CD player.

There is one small issue remaining – the waveIO is not detected by pup unless it is powered up after the mpdpup is started . The mute issue was fixed as per post 2 and stays OK.
The wizard does not see the WaveIO , unless usb to waveIO is unplugged and re-plugged(when usb powered) Or when wave is externally powered the power is off - on . Then waveIO is seen by wizard - selected and reboot to save but is gone again on next full power up (after all has been off) .
GMPC reports “problems opening audio device” A power off -on for WaveIO and all is working again.
I could live with power up the waveIO after mpdpup is running, but it would be nice if this was not needed. This did not occur on my previous usb dac interface using the same PC
The PC is a Dell Inspiron 2200 1.4G celeron it does not seem to have too many bios options.
Could it be a problem only with this PC ?

Any suggestions to fix this welcomed, I assume this does not happen to other waveIO users
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ldolse

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:31    Post_subject:  

Hi Audiosm,

Your problem actually sounds familiar - I think if you read back through the thread other WaveIO users have mentioned it. I don't have any idea if this is an Linux problem or a problem with the WaveIO itself. Since I don't have a WaveIO and haven't experienced this with other USB Audio adapters I'd suggest asking for help on the WaveIO thread on diyaudio. If they find a solution I'll be happy to integrate it into mpdPup so that it fully works out of the box.
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audiosm

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Sep 2012, 08:17    Post_subject:
Sub_title: WaveIO detection
 

Thanks Idolse
I will do some more looking , I thought I saw this WaveIO problem referred to before, but cant find it now. I will try for an answer on the waveIO thread if one is not already there, some 100 or so pages to look at first !
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multiblitz

Joined: 28 Jul 2012
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Sep 2012, 14:11    Post_subject:
Sub_title: WaveIO detection
 

audiosm wrote:
Could it be a problem only with this PC ?

Any suggestions to fix this welcomed, I assume this does not happen to other waveIO users


I think so....I am running a WaveIo as well...and have tried many Boards as described...but never had this issue.
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wlowes

Joined: 07 Jun 2012
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:14    Post_subject: WaveIO  

Audiosm
FYI, I have WaveIO on Alix. Both are powered from same supply. I turn on the switch and mpdpup on Alix always finds WaveIO. In this scenario WaveIO is powered up by the time mpdpup boots and it is discovered no problem.
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Jean-Louis P

Joined: 23 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep 2012, 15:01    Post_subject: different install (little) problems for a LINUX newbie
Sub_title: Just got lost in mpdpup since an hour
 

Hi to all

I am a first timer with LINUX and therefore for mpdpup, so please be indulgent for my silly questions. I am also (almost) dumb for network, IP

I am trying to settle an ASUS1001PX as server and connect to a WinXP Pro PC file server with two HDD, I would like to set the music on the F. Both of them connected in ethernet to ADSL router
I will go out the ASUS with a USB to SPDIF WAVEIO board Lucian is finishing, and then feed, I hope Laughing my AD1865 NOS SRPP DAC.

Install on SD Card with Universal USB Installer was alright with the option "try unlisted LINUX ISO"

First questions
- how can I get french keyboard (nobody is perfect Laughing )
- is it okay if my F HDD is formated in NTFS or should I reformat it to ExFAT. I do not know what is better
- how can I find the private IP address from my server named SERVEURJLP ?
- what is the exact syntax I should use to indicate the shared documents on my server ?

Thanks a lot !Sorry for not being a LINUX geek
Best Regards from Paris
Jean-Louis
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