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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 19:39    Post_subject:  Mac Emulator - Basilisk II  

I was successful in getting Basilisk II to work properly in
Puppy Linux (Exprimo) and Porteus

Using Fullwrite and the Maclinkplus 9.0 file translators I was able
save files in a wide variety of formats such as Word.

Maclinkplus 11

Fullwrite is full featured and quick and freeware.
Your Serial Number is FREE-33333-33333
http://www.encyclomedia.ca/fwp/

Microsoft Word 6 is reputed to work in Basilisk
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/microsoft-word-6



This is a great way to run that old mac software you have
hidden in your drawer. Also there's lots of freeware software
available. I reccommend going to Mac garden

Here's a package to get you started. I'll explain how to use it in
the second post.
Basilisk_emulation.tar.gz
Description  Useful files for Basilisk II emulator
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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 20:26    Post_subject: instructions for installation- basilisk  

Installation instructions:

You will need to buy an Apple OS 8 CD disk ( under $10 )

An image can be created in the Basilisk front window (about 200megs
is recommended [100megs minimum is required for install]) or you can make your own image from a blank.

Warning!! Your hard drive needs to have enough space for the
creation of an image file. For example if you are creating a 400mb image
then you need at least 400mb of space free in your hard drive to hold it.
You can check if the image has been properly made to the right size
by right-clicking and looking under 'Properties'

If you wish to create an image using Basilisk itself, hopefully this
screenshot will help you. Notice that the folder is selected, then
the name of the image is typed in field. Choose the size as well
(400 mb in this example).
If you click 'Create' to create your image, then it is listed in Basilisk's front window automatically after creation.



Blank images are available here. and in my archive.
For Basilisk to know the blank images location
you must click on 'Add' to find the location .
I've used the 224mb blank image in this screenshot.



Read about images here

Inside the archive you will find a recent version of
Basilisk II (zipped) . You must unzip the various files.

The XZM module is for the Porteus distribution. Puppy users should just
ignore that module.

You will also need the Performa ROM which is in
the other compressed file. Unzip .


Store both in a folder . Run Basilisk II by clicking on it.
(or some puppies may need a link put in executable path like /usr/bin/)

And set the options as shown.



Note that you need to give the path to the ROM

The other settings are simple.

In Graphic/sound I would suggest that you keep the sound 'OFF'
and the refresh rate at 30hz. You can set the window size.

I would suggest 800x600 pixels.


Make sure an image is listed in front window. See image above
where I have unzipped a 224mb image from my blanks file.
Put your OS8 disk in the tray and click 'START"

If everything is correct your OS 8 CD will launch like
on a real MAC!!



It's a simple process to install an image
(which can be named anything). After installation choose 'SHUTDOWN'
and run Basilisk II again. The disk image must be chosen
as well as the path to the ROM in the front window. The launch only
takes a few seconds!!

Two applications you MUST install next is Apple's Disk Copy 6.32
and (un)Stuffit 5.5. This will allow you access to a large amount of software.

You can also upgrade to OS 8.1 (for free) from Apple_Support_Area



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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 14:44    Post_subject:  

I found a version of Stuffit Deluxe 4.5

http://www.macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=24163

and here is Stuffit expander

http://www.macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=22846

Version 5.5 can be found HERE

...or HERE

I found a version of Apple's Disk Copy that works with OS 8.0

http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=23401

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 16:29    Post_subject:  

For an innovative way to make an image
go here for my script

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=640441#640441

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mmmrr


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2012, 19:50    Post_subject: will basilisk run os 9.2.1?  

hi don,

thanks for the heads-up re basilisk ll.
i have an os 9.2.1 cd which i kept because
i liked it so well; do you know if it would it run
on basilisk? i guess i could just try it.

i'm just feeling my way on this port puppy to
powerpc. do you know of any limiting factors:
such as memory and/or cpu power that might
make using basilisk ll as a sandbox for testing
a puppy port a poor idea.

ie. a compu with 1.5 GHZ cpu and 1.5 GB ram running
puppy, running basilisk ll on which is running an older, smaller,
simpler puppy ported to the powerpc architecture

the puppy that i have in mind for a trial port is puppy 202 opera,
a 58 mb puplet by john murga with only xvesa, no xorg.

i don't mean to hijack this thread, just to ask if you think
basilisk might be useful/possible in this way.

cheers, mm
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2012, 20:54    Post_subject:  

hi don,

i put basilisk2 and performa rom into a folder
together but bash kept declining . i thought it
might be a permissions issue and made both
files executable but it made no difference.

you said 'Run Basilisk II'. please tell me what
you entered at the prompt. i also tried 'run' which
was unrecognised then exec which was recognised
but still basilisk2 and variations, including full name,
were not.

cheers, mm

# Basilisk ll
bash: Basilisk: command not found
# pwd
/mnt/hda3/Basilisk_emulation/basilisk-ll
# Basiliskll
bash: Basiliskll: command not found
# Basilisk ll
bash: Basilisk: command not found
# Basiliskll_X_Linux_13_09_2010
bash: Basiliskll_X_Linux_13_09_2010: command not found
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2012, 22:41    Post_subject: basilisk no run problem solved
Sub_title: trying in too old a kernel
 

hi don,

i was looking at properties for basilisk2
including the fine print looking for a clue
to my problem...
'for GNU/Linux 2.6.4'
was the clue. i'd been trying in an older kernel,
--pup412retro, k 2.6.2--. i rebooted into wary53,
--k 2.6.32.59 [according to hardinfo]--
i clicked on basilisk2, which i'd put on a separate partition, and bingo, i was looking at the display from the next step in yr tutorial. whee! next!

cheers, mm
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2012, 17:59    Post_subject: mackintoshgarden links not so good these days  

macgardens links for os 8 and related things pointed to mediafire where they dead-ended with the horrid words 'account suspended'. there is another useful archive site called winworldpc-dot-com with lots of different operating system and app files including mac os 8. mirrors in france and chicago.

currently active forums, called winboards, where i found a suggestion, given to someone without a cd-drive who wanted to add stuffit from an iso file:

http://winworldpc.com/winboards/viewtopic.php?p=123725
Post subject: Re: How do I use ISO files in Basilisk II build 142?
most recent post: july 1, 2012:

'Most people just think Basilisk II has zero support for ISO files because there are no options for emulating an .iso as the CD-ROM in the Basilisk II GUI, but it is possible - just directly open "BasiliskII_prefs" with SimpleText and add the line "cdrom StuffIt Deluxe 4.5.iso" above the first line.'

that caught my eye--issues with cd's/cd-drives were/are my current stumbling block to getting
basilisk2 going, presently it starts then gives me a floppy disk icon with a flashing '?'.

i haven't found basiliskll_prefs. i'm going through
the checklist re cd-rw, burning tools, etc.

cheers, mm

cheers,
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2012, 22:18    Post_subject:  

hi don,
it would be a big help if you gave a screenshot of the
front window of yr basilisk2 settings.
i think i've got an okay os8 iso on cd --size is right--but no md5sums at winworldpc. basilisk fires up then spits out the cd with a flashing '?' on floppy icon. i've tried everything i could think of except hitting it with a hammer, maybe you know the feeling...

if i knew in more detail what you meant:

'Make sure an image is listed in front window.'

a blank image of 224mb? an image of the os8 iso?
[which is about 320mb, so i used 448 mb when i
tried the create tab then directed to the iso for the image]

'Put your OS8 disk in the tray, make sure it
is listed also in the front window'

how is the os8 disk to be listed?

thanks for getting me started on what still seems like a worthwhile project. i realise that there must be a basilisk2 forum and i'll be finding it. i realise that lots goes on in peoples' lives.

cheers, mm
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 14:18    Post_subject:  

Quote:
'Put your OS8 disk in the tray, make sure it
is listed also in the front window'


Sorry I missed your post.

I tried OS 9.2.1 as well and it didn't work. Fortunately I had the
old version OS 8 still available. An added bonus of the
original OS 8 disk is that Movieplayer is installed as well.

This is the original version of Quicktime Pro. It is
is very useful in editing sound files.
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I should have put in picture of first Basilisk window.


Basilisk instructions page

Apparently the OS 8 disk is inserted after launching Basilisk emulator.
But I'll check again.

You use the 'Add' file selector to select images ( .dsk ) that will mount
at the same time as OS 8 or you can create your own images
by clicking 'Create' button.

I wrote a pet package to create HFS images from a folder of files.
So this is the easiest way to transfer files to mac emulator.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79701

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 14:20    Post_subject:  

Quote:
i think i've got an okay os8 iso on cd --size is right--but no md5sums at winworldpc. basilisk fires up then spits out the cd with a flashing '?' on floppy icon. i've tried everything i could think of except hitting it with a hammer, maybe you know the feeling...



I am using an official OS 8 disk , but I have made images of
OS 9 disks using the commercial mac application 'Toast'
and then burnt it to a CD again and it worked fine.

A lot of images are available on the internet for downloading
but they are often in an image format that only a recent
copy of Toast will understand and burn correctly.
If you try to burn them with Puppy linux , then only the
'file' is being burnt rather than the image.

If you don't have a copy of Toast then look for images that are
.dmg or .img which are the regular Apple images that
can be burnt by Apple software .

An official copy of OS8 should only cost $10 on ebay.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 14:57    Post_subject:  

Quote:
a compu with 1.5 GHZ cpu and 1.5 GB ram running
puppy, running basilisk ll on which is running an older, smaller,
simpler puppy ported to the powerpc architecture


It ran very well on my 2ghz Pentium4 with 500mb
but I didn't test sound or videos.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 15:17    Post_subject:  

Quote:
you said 'Run Basilisk II'. please tell me what
you entered at the prompt. i also tried 'run' which
was unrecognised then exec which was recognised
but still basilisk2 and variations, including full name,
were not.


I click on the Basilisk icon which launches the app.
(?? Did I first undeb the debian package)
(I must have a distribution that allows clicking on application icons)

To start the emulation -----> click on 'Start' button at
bottom of opening window of Basilisk , but only after
carefully going through the setup of options as I mentioned
in my instruction list.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 15:24    Post_subject:  

Quote:
a blank image of 224mb? an image of the os8 iso?
[which is about 320mb, so i used 448 mb when i
tried the create tab then directed to the iso for the image]


I read in the Basilisk manual that OS 8 install disk
must be a real physical disk , not an image Crying or Very sad

The reason why you need have an empty image (of at least 224mb)
is because this is acting as your mac computer hard drive.
In other words it will contain your system and data files like a real mac
computer so it needs a file system format like a mac.
This format is called HFS.

Linux uses other file system formats such as EXT2 EXT3 etc.

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Macintosh Garden seems to have tech problems,
but scroll down their pages to the end of the page and the
downloads are still available.

A good explanation of software that is available
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/68k_software
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 22:09    Post_subject:  

thanks for yr replies don,
couldn't get through to this site for a few hours earlier today, but i could see 2 eenotices of fresh
posts: frustrating then and right now all i can say is

'thanks, i'll have a chance to try making use of them
in the next 12 hours.'

you said: I should have put in picture of first Basilisk window. any chance of you posting that. it would be a big help because i can tell already that yr answers
are reducing but not eliminating my uncertainties.

thanks again, gotta go, cheers, mm
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