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Tips to keep the Save file in the green
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep 2012, 16:12    Post subject:  Tips to keep the Save file in the green  

At the moment, my save file is set to 512M. While I know I can always increase it, what would you recommend I do to keep the Save file always in the green?

I have some customers who are interested in a simple OS. I am considering telling them about Puppy Linux. I'd like to keep it as simple and straight forward for them.

Thanks!!
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p310don

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep 2012, 22:21    Post subject:  

There are many threads talking about how to do this.

The easiest I have found is to copy out the .mozilla folder from the /mnt/home and create a symlink back to it. Essentially that makes the firefox cache folder outside the relatively small 512mb save file.

However, whenever I've setup a puppy computer for friends, as well as doing the above, I make a big save file. I have made the past few 6gig, but have learnt since that 4 gig is ideal if you need to copy the save file. 4gig being the biggest that fits onto a fat32 flash drive!
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disciple

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep 2012, 23:08    Post subject:  

What if you want to copy onto a 2GB flash drive? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep 2012, 23:14    Post subject:  

disciple, well um, get a hammer and bash it until it fits into your flash drive. If it doesn't work right after that, go out and buy yourself a 4gig or bigger drive to replace the hammered one Laughing
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 05:07    Post subject:  

It did cross my mind to increase the save file to a few gigs in size but I wasn't sure if there is a limit to the size of a save file you can have. Is there? Does it slow down the performance of puppy if you have a really large save file? I'm just wondering because if it is ok to create a large multi gig save file I will do that. The Mozilla option sounds interesting as well.
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SFR


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 06:36    Post subject:  

rmcellig wrote:
It did cross my mind to increase the save file to a few gigs in size but I wasn't sure if there is a limit to the size of a save file you can have. Is there?


ttuuxxx wrote:
The largest pupsave I've made was 35GB.

(source)

Of course it depends of filesystem on which your savefile resides.
FAT32, for instance, lets you create max. 4GB (-1 byte) large (save)file, but other filesystems like ext?/NTFS etc. have a lot larger limits.

BTW, Keep your savefile slim and healthy Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 07:21    Post subject:  

My HD is ext4 formatted. I just increased it to 2.6 GB. All is green now so I will see how it goes.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 12:21    Post subject:  

My save file is now 4.8G. I increased the size again. It had all green bars and then went down to two orange bars . When I hover over the bars, it says I have 1.1GB of free space available.When I look at properties for the Root directory the size is only 233M. Any ideas what I should do? I'm open to anything at this point.The apps I have installed when looking at the Puppy Package manager are:

Audacity 1.3.12
Filezilla 3.3.3
IceWM 1.3.7 pre2-L519 Lucid
IceWM themes 1.2.26 Lucid
parcellite 0.9.2 i386
Chromium 20 Lucid


That's it.

My laptop memory is 2520MB (about 800MB used)
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666philb


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 12:45    Post subject:  

applications that download things like browsers , torrent apps etc , need the download location setting in there preferences to be outside the savefile eg. /mnt/home/downloads (will download to a folder called downloads in /mnt/home/ instead of inside the savefile).

use menu >>> filesystem >> gdmap to find what's taking up space.

chromium is particularly bad at having a huge cache. so move the hidden /root/.cache/chromium file onto the harddrive and symlink it back (same as in the dropbox thread) this moves it outside of the savefile.

you can do the same for other big files that you find with gdmap

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2012, 12:53    Post subject:  

Super! I will try that out.
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 05:33    Post subject:  

Does the size of the save file depend on the size of RAM installed on my laptop? So for example if my laptop has 2.5GB of ram it makes no sense creating a save file larger than 2.5GB?
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 06:16    Post subject:  

no its size isn't limited by the amount of ram. the savefile is on the harddrive and doesn't get loaded into ram.

a savefile can be any size, but smaller ones are more manageable and easier to back up.

if that is all you've installed into your puppy it really doesn't account for the amount of savefile used, so as i said in the previous post.... use 'gdmap' to find what's using all the space

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 06:33    Post subject:  

Ok. Thanks!! I have been reading the page, how puppy works. Very interesting how Barry came up with all this stuff.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 06:53    Post subject:  

A thought has occurred here. Is it possible to put the browser cache completely in RAM in such a way that it doesn't burden the save file but flushes itself completely when Puppy is switched off?
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 07:30    Post subject:  

Hi,

To find the culprit(s) my personal preference is the Large File Finder pet which yields a descending list of files above a chosen size in a chosen directory rather than a graphical view.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77779

My regards
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