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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 09:48    Post subject:  

Hi Barry

A recap regarding 2barks / woof-woof. It works.

Did a fresh reboot on both laptops, Acer 243LC and Emachines E732, and got a woof-woof on both machines with both 5395 and 53951.

So disregard my earlier comment about - no woof-woof.

Luvly Puppies - many thanks and very best regards - Ray

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 13:35    Post subject: Beta7 non-pae Fine, opera problem solved  

Hi Barry K & All;

My computer:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics supporting 1600x900 pixels
RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital

Manual frugal install of Beta7, non-pae

Everything worked OOTB, with one snag. Although initial desktop came in at supported resolution, there were two annoying problems running Opera 11 or 12. The most annoying was that flash videos would not run showing a black screen where an image should be. The second was that if more than one tab was opened, except for the tab in focus the tab bar did not display the other tabs properly and the unused portion of the tab bar displayed random black pixels rather than a uniform gray space, Running xorgorwizard and probing to 1600x900x24 solved both problems. "Report Video Graphics" now indicates that the Ati Radeon driver was being used.

Not particularly important but just to make a note of it: On my Thinkpad T42, booting frugal install of Beta6 non-pae --it doesn't support pae kernels*-- the Lucid build of Songbird installs, displays but hangs if a Shoutcast selection is made.

And before I forget: Just a word of appreciation for whatever change you made to the routine to build/display the desktop after a change in the SFSes loaded. Previously, after removing or adding an SFS, the default desktop icons would appear on reboot. Now changing SFSes does not effect the desktop display.
And, of course, thank you for precise, itself.

mikesLr

* ergo my preference for non-pae on desktop: After my customizations on desktop, I just make a copy for all the files my Thinkpad.
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 20:05    Post subject: Fastest download  

Fastest download of precise-5.3.95.iso is


http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/quirky/test/precise-5.3.95-beta7-pae/

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 20:11    Post subject: beta-7
Subject description: rt2800usb
 

Figured I'd wait a few versions to see if the WiFi got corrected! Sorry to say, WiFi with rt2800usb is still NOT connecting. Hasn't worked since 5.2.60. Linksys adaptor blinks like it's searching, just not connecting!

So far everything else in beta-7 looks pretty good except... seems slower than earlier versions and still a lot of buffering at certain video sites.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 21:20    Post subject:  

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rerwin


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 00:30    Post subject: BugFix for modemprobe_erase  

Barry,
While polishing and testing the firmware pets for DGC and HSF modems, I discovered that modemprobe_erase does not perform as I intended for modprobe config files named modemx_*. They are to be removed only if an 'erase' is done when the modem selection is already cleared. That is to leave them in place during a normal "erase" of a selection to change modem selection, but provide a way to remove them (say, for a hardware reconfiguration).

They have been used to handle the special case of HSF and ALSA drivers conflicting and HSF failing to work. I now plan to use it to retain the DGC config file across an erase-and-reboot. Without the file in place, the DGC driver does not load in time to function (providing modem sounds). It loads correctly for subsequent sessions.

The problem is that modemprobe_erase limits the action to a single config file for the original purpose. Although my intent was for it to act on any linuxant-driver "modemx_" file, I never changed the script. Now I would like it to handle any such file for the DGC, HCF and HSF modems. The change does just that, but not for other cases, simply to minimize exposure to accidental use of similarly named files for other purposes.

Code:
--- /usr/sbin/modemprobe_erase   2012-02-01 06:58:19.000000000 -0500
+++ modemprobe_erase   2012-09-24 12:13:26.000000000 -0400
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
 #v432 Undo automatic HCF/HSF overrides if modem selection is already cleared, to require second erase to reset the overrides.
 #101203 bk: modified.
 #120201 BK: internationalized.
+#120924 rerwin: Extend to all linuxant modems the modemx file removal on erase-with-no-modem-set,.
 
 export TEXTDOMAIN=modemprobe_erase
 export OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8
@@ -16,11 +17,13 @@
 #v432 If no modem currently "detected", reset ALSA override of HSF driver (and vice versa).
 if [ ! -e /etc/wvdial.conf ] \
   || grep -q -E '^Modem = (/dev/MYDEVM|MYDEVM)' /etc/wvdial.conf;then
- rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modemx_hsfmc97xxx.conf #101115
+ rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modemx_dgc* #120924
+ rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modemx_hcf* #120924
+ rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modemx_hsf* #120924
 fi #v432 end
 
 #100908 Delete modem configuration files, to allow fresh start.
-rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modem_* `ls -1 /etc/modprobe.d/modemx_* 2>/dev/null | grep -v 'hsfmc97xxx' | tr '\n' ' '` #101115
+rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/modem_* #120924
 
 #100909 Reset config file modem and alternate.
 [ -e /etc/wvdial.conf ] \


Although it seems unrelated to this fix, I have found that pupdial misbehaves after using the Erase function. The selected modem name gets corrupted. Here is a summary of what I see:
    After erase and then reboot:
    [Dialer Defaults]
    Modem = /dev/MYDEVM
    Baud = 460800

    connectwizard shows /dev/ttySHSF0.

    click dialup..., OK to first popup:
    [Dialer Defaults]
    Modem = /dev//dev/ttySHSF0
    Baud = 460800
UPDATE 9/25/2012: The fix for this is attached. A change made in wary 5.0 implies that the name "/dev/MYDEVM" is not expected. However, that name is generated upon exit from pupdial even when the value should be only "MYDEVM". The fix ensures that the expectation is met.
Code:
--- /usr/sbin/pupdial   2012-05-14 04:52:50.000000000 -0400
+++ pupdial   2012-09-25 20:00:39.000000000 -0400
@@ -32,6 +32,7 @@
 #120202 rodin.s: internationalized.
 #120218 rerwin: Ensure non-null logon info for wvdial.
 #120329 Xdialog bug --yesno supposed to "yes" "No" buttons, but they are "OK" "Cancel".
+#120924 rerwin: correct setting of current modem device after erase.
 
 [ "`whoami`" != "root" ] && exec sudo -A ${0} ${@} #110505
 
@@ -712,8 +713,11 @@
 [ ! ${ENTRYACC2USER} ] && ENTRYACC2USER="MY2USERNAME"
 [ ! ${ENTRYACC2PASS} ] && ENTRYACC2PASS="MY2PASSWORD"
 
+MODEMDEVM="/dev/${DEVM}" #120924
+[ "${DEVM}" = "MYDEVM" ] && MODEMDEVM="MYDEVM" #120924
+
 echo '[Dialer Defaults]' > /etc/wvdial.conf
-echo -n "Modem = /dev/${DEVM}
+echo -n "Modem = ${MODEMDEVM}
 ${DEVMALTLINE}Baud = ${ENTRYBAUDM}
 Init1 =
 Init2 = ${ENTRYINIT2M}

Richard
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 03:24    Post subject:  

Quote:
I'd wait ... to see if the WiFi got corrected

The best, ie easiest & most comprehensive, wi-fi utility is in PCLOS. The 2012-02 Xfce version might suit you. It's very slow as a liveCD, so recommend you install on an old HD to start with to see if you like it. Tex has made great strides since breaking away from the Mandrake fold.
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sszindian


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Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 09:07    Post subject: WiFi issue  

Sage Wrote:

The best, ie easiest & most comprehensive, wi-fi utility is in PCLOS. The 2012-02 Xfce version might suit you. It's very slow as a liveCD, so recommend you install on an old HD to start with to see if you like it. Tex has made great strides since breaking away from the Mandrake fold.
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Appreciate your come-back Sage however... I myself am NOT looking for an alternative WiFi setup for Precise! I have tons of puppy's and other distro's that work as they should.

I TEST and report on NEW developments what is NOT working properly so BK and other dev's can find and correct the problem and won't be confronted by numerous new users once it makes the final stage of development.

But 'thank you' for your concern.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 15:49    Post subject: Localization BUG n QuickSetup-FirstRUN - Personalize Setting  

Hi BarryK, I already reported on your good work thus far.

Thought you would want to see this for it relates to your PUPs and others built using your latest WOOF.

Here to hlep

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 18:07    Post subject:  

Tried Non PAE version, boots up fine to desktop on Athlon XP 2400.

The look is good too, you can get round it in seconds and find everything.

GLX gears around 160, the wheels turn, but a little jerkily at times.
(can't believe that figure really though, when the usual figure for my RV280 Radeon 9200 is around 5000 to 1000 in most puppies with the Xorg High Pet put in them).

Internet works fine. A little modprobe is what it took to find the usb modem.
Usb cards come up fine, multiple soundcards fine.
Retrovol config, change HW0 to HW1 and restart X to change cards.
I Try not to do that too much in any Puppies though! Very temperamental.
Wine loads, wineasio, Jack.
Openbox 3.5.0 fails to show up.

No yellowish/green screen (as in 3HD) when changing Xorg from 24 to 16 bit, but still can't run Lugaru, a game I use as a reference test. Takes 3 minutes to get the mouse to hit play!

Apart from the ATI 9200 problem, everything works great as far as I can test.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2012, 19:15    Post subject: new version of mhwaveedit 1.4.22  

new version of mhwaveedit 1.4.22
Quote:

New features in version 1.4.22:

* Improvements and fixes in the sample conversion and dithering code
* Display zoom and speed settings next to status bar
* Bug fix for value truncation in position cursor dialog
* For ogg files, choose between decompression to temporary file and
on-the-fly access
* Various bug fixes


I compiled mhwaveedit-1.4.22 in latest precise .



Instruction to compile:

download
http://download.gna.org/mhwaveedit/mhwaveedit-1.4.22.tar.bz2


I decompresed mhwaveedit package in convenient place.

I made a folder /root/temp

I made sure that a file (install-sh) was executable

CD into mhwaveedit package and launch terminal and type....


Code:

./configure --with-default-mixerapp=retrovol --enable-nls --prefix=/usr
make
make install DESTDIR=/root/temp


Warning!! This pet package will only run in precise. It won't
even run in Lucid Puppy.

To save about 1mb I stripped the binary
using iguleder_tools-001.pet

Removed the man page, included the icon, and included a .desktop file

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mhwaveedit-precise_NLS-1.4.22.pet
Description  foreign locales
pet

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Sep 2012, 20:02    Post subject: new mtpaint 3.44.04  

new version mtpaint 3.44.04

I compiled mtpaint 3.44.04 in the latest precise

Code:
./configure    release intl  --prefix=/usr


minor upgrade from 3.44.03 -Dmitri corrected bug using
keyboard for selection

Removed the man page, included the icon, and included a .desktop file

Warning!! this app will only run under precise.

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pet

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2012, 14:11    Post subject: webcam app?  

Any webcam app for precise?
Cheese requires 150+ dependencies Shocked
Guvcview needs Gtk3 (the wary/slacko versions do not work)
Luvcview does not work (in my hardware at least)

rcrsn51?... Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2012, 14:30    Post subject: Re: webcam app?  

mavrothal wrote:
Any webcam app for precise?
Cheese requires 150+ dependencies Shocked
Guvcview needs Gtk3 (the wary/slacko versions do not work)
Luvcview does not work (in my hardware at least)

rcrsn51?... Wink

something like this should work:
ffmpeg -t 10 -f video4linux2 -s 320x240 -r 30 -i /dev/video0 -f oss -i /dev/dsp1 -f mp4 webcam.mp4

if you want to see it too, replace webcam.mp4 with /dev/stdout and pipe it through tee into mplayer

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2012, 14:32    Post subject: Re: webcam app?  

mavrothal wrote:
Guvcview needs Gtk3 (the wary/slacko versions do not work)

I tried to build Guvcview in Precise the same way I did in Slacko/Wary. The build was successful, but it wouldn't run. The error seemed to be related to GTK/GDK.

Quote:
Luvcview does not work (in my hardware at least)

I got a version of Luvciew to run in Precise. But capturing to a file only worked with certain cameras. Something about YUV format.
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