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meeki


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Location: Portland OR

PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2012, 17:16    Post subject:  

Hey puppyt, thanks for the support.

I know I can make more organized howto's. In the army as a medic I got CPR instructor trained and CLS (Combat Life Saver) Instructor trained by the unit for teaching Battalion down 7 different 50 -60 man classes. Then later in my carrier I retrained and became the Task Force armor for another unit. Had to teach weapon qualification.

Public speaking is not an issue. However I should not have just winged it like that. next time I'll make myself a note card on the other screen to keep myself on track. Lay out a lesson plan like i did when I was instructing.

I left the video as is because its shows how to fix a mistake in a build. IE the Exec="foo" issue in the *.desktop file.

I'm back in College now so time is limited. I'll try to get out a video on making a pet with new2dir and if that fails ./configure, make, make DESTDIR= make DESTDIR can help if your ending up with an empty new2dir as some pets are a pain to be made. Its not that hard just a time hog to slow down and explain.

Some things will never be in the realm of a 15 to 30 min video. Some pets are a nightmare to make.

I'm thinking about doing a video series on gtkdialog, and zenity. Kinda like the videos bucky does on The New Boston. http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php

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Just been trying to explain to the wife the significance of your input here, within the broader context of what makes the Puppy Linux Community such a great place to hang around in


This is the truth.

I love it here in puppy land too. People aren't stingy with there knowledge.

The only thing I recommend to any one looking to start doing any thing outside a Linux stock Desktop application (making pets, config .deb packages, making a dialog) is to take one class online or in collage for one programming language.


I'm a total puppy / linux noob. The only thing that has saved me is that I took Pascal, Java, Java Script, HTML back in the day (1996-1999).
You may not remember all the code but you remember how code works. You know a function, you know a While loop, if statements, and most important Comparisons.

There are allot more than that but if you have a good Idea of how the above work in a few languages when you see code else ware you head does not do a mobious strip maneuver.

Good luck puppyt I'm sure you get it and be providing how to's to other puppy fans in less than a year.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2012, 18:38    Post subject:  

@ meeki your Docear sfs works perfectly in my LH64 - Big Thanks!

I hadn't meant to deflect you from your other goals when I mentioned Docear earlier, so I didn't provide the link (http://www.docear.org/) - I'm very grateful that you took the trouble to track it down *and* compile the latest in PET and SFS when you have so much else going on. Docear is still getting minor kinks worked out (e.g., importing and organising user's PDF annotations) and is going through lots of updates recently. So, when Docear gets a bit more mature I'll use your tute to update the pets. Your contribution does all that I need it to do, so is a great research tool for LH64 (and other pupplets).

Sorry TaZoC and all for slightly derailing the LH thread further, gotta respond Smile
meeki I *thought* you might have had professional experience in tutorial settings - well, you might have made some bloopers but your natural delivery was excellent, and turning it into a tutorial-within-a-tutorial, on-the-fly made it more memorable and effective. Don't take it down! The asides you make on java pets and sfs/pet compatibility are also very useful points for us noobs, too.
I reckon it would be useful to bring a LightHouse/64-bit Puppy perspective to the realm of 'how to" tutorials already covered here http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TutorialYouTube. I feel that LHPUPrecord would be a big gain in this regard, in due course...

Good luck with your studies meeki! I'm back in college now meself, so I appreciate your time with this.

(erm I did Basic and Pascal in High School back when MicroBee's were the "In" thing, and haven't really touched the field of programming with a barge pole since - but I quite agree, the discipline that a (or any) computer language teaches you, is a big help when you need confidence to get "under the hood" in Linux)

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Location: Lower Columbia Basin WA US

PostPosted: Mon 01 Oct 2012, 21:20    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
TazOC,
Was catching up on some reading on Barry's Blog and I found this post about PPM: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02985

Will those changes be able to get worked into the final LH64 release that you said you were working on? I personally dont need it, but I do think it would help those less skilled in Linux. Since you're release is already so user friendly, I was hoping it'd get added (if you had time).
Good question, I'll add it to my To Do. I was waiting for all the updates to PPM to settle before inclusion. Might not make into RC1, but hopefully after that.
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Update: I'll be working on the new XFCE for LHP64 later tonight... hopefully things will go smoothly. Smile

EDIT: You told me before but Im daft and forgot... what is the dir in LHP that shows all the installed packages? The one where each package has a corresponding file identifying it.
/var/log/packages, same as in Slackware. I think I'll put a symlink to that directory in /root/.packages.
-TaZoC

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Pete22


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 23:16    Post subject:  Ideas for now or later  

Hello to TazOC and others:

The developers for a puppy named Carolina to be released Oct 5; has the
latest version of the XFCE desktop working in puppy as well as enhanced
Xfce options via GUI not offered in Saluki, or any other distro Puppy or
otherwise. I know it is x32 bit so perhaps their work will not be helpful
to you.However, some times just an idea can spark someone's creative
juices, so I thought I would mention it. You may want to contact Elroy or
Geoffrey for more information .

I also like the improvements that Jemimah made to the Puppy Package
Manager, It looks for dependencies and if they are not already installed,
it looks elsewhere to find a copy and downloads them when possible
Very handy, However, Jemimah has "Linux Burnout" right now so I would
contact Elroy or Geoffrey for more information about that if you are
interested.

I know that LHP x64 has a much greater capacity to do beautiful screen
savers. Is there a way, or could there be a way created to also create an
ongoing random picture slideshow screensaver that uses pictures from
files or folders that I designate?

Keep up the wonderful work you folks are doing.

Pete
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meeki


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Location: Portland OR

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 04:56    Post subject:  

Pete22
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I know that LHP x64 has a much greater capacity to do beautiful screen
savers. Is there a way, or could there be a way created to also create an
ongoing random picture slideshow screensaver that uses pictures from
files or folders that I designate?


XscreenSaver 5.14 (stock screensaver app in LHPUP64) will do just what your asking.

Mode: is stock set to random. It will cycle through the screen savers in the list checked below that are not subdued and have a check in the check box.

Out of the ones available in the list the following will do images from a folder of your choice:

Carousel
Decayscreen
GLSlideshow
Jigsaw
Photopile

After unchecking/checking the ones you want or if one select mode: only one click the Advance tab next to Display modes

Uncheck grab Desktop images

Now check : Choose Random Image:
Brows to a folder of the photos you want to display and now your using photos of your own choosing.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 16:28    Post subject:  Screensaver with my own photos  

I had a sneaky suspicion that it was already possible
Thanks for giving me some directions. I will give this a try..

I am not too techie, but that's why I love LHP.
Its sooo friendly.. You folks are also great to work with too.

I thank you all for your efforts. Very Happy

I like Puppy, but I love Lighthouse pup. Its the best.

Pete
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 15:10    Post subject: LH64 user shares his experience  

Pete22 wrote:
... I like Puppy, but I love Lighthouse pup. Its the best. ...
Wait 'til you see whats coming!
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tazoc


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2012, 00:17    Post subject: Screensaver of images in custom folder  

meeki wrote:
XscreenSaver 5.14 (stock screensaver app in LHPUP64) will do just what your asking.

Mode: is stock set to random.
I'd like to add a little to meeki's excellent post, that you might want to change the Mode to 'Only One Screensaver' (image-1 below)

...and then on the 'Advanced' tab enter the path in the 'Choose...' box, or click Browse to specify the folder, (image-2 below.)

The box in image-2 says '/usr/share/backgrounds', but you can change that as desired. As meeki noted you can uncheck 'Grab Desktop Images' to exclude your wallpaper from the screensaver.
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meeki


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2012, 00:52    Post subject:  

Whom ever made (./configure) LibreOffice-3.6.1_64_en-US.sfs

THANK YOU !!!!!

All the functions work now and it does not lagg out for 30 seconds at random times. Also the spell check works!!

LibreOffice-3.4.2-x86_64-2.sfs was a flop for me

My class work can continue..... Well back to my lab report.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2012, 21:26    Post subject: Re: LH64 user shares his experience  

gcmartin wrote:
Pete22 wrote:
... I like Puppy, but I love Lighthouse pup. Its the best. ...
Wait 'til you see whats coming!


ooooooooohhhhh. Are we taking about another release sometime soon?

Now you're getting my hopes up.

I would love an update.

Pete.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 17:32    Post subject:  Amazon movies  

tazoc wrote:

Try this Pet: http://www.lhpup.org/update/L64-514/System/hal-0.5.14-x86_64-3.pet

I adapted it for LH64 from a couple of Slackware64 packages at
http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.37/slackware64/l/
and included the missing scsi.h at /usr/include/scsi/. (Will also add scsi.h to the next devX.)

Hope that helps,
TaZoC


This is great. I tried it and it eliminates the specific message caused by the Hal problem.
However, today when I tried to watch an amazon movie, flash keeps crashing. Youtube files are fine.

I uninstalled and reinstalled flash from lighthouse update. Still crashing in Firefox.
Downloaded and installed Google chrome 21 and tried to watch amazon movie on that.
No error message but the movie just does not run. Files work fine at youtube.

Not sure what the problem really is. Hoping you folks can offer some suggestions.

Pete

P.S. Have been running amazon movies fine on firefox 15 with my x32 bit machine.
They worked last week.

Just checked. But not today. So I don't know what is wrong. Maybe its amazon.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 19:52    Post subject:  

Pete wrote:

Quote:
This is great. I tried it and it eliminates the specific message caused by the Hal problem.
However, today when I tried to watch an amazon movie, flash keeps crashing. Youtube files are fine.

Not sure what the problem really is. Hoping you folks can offer some suggestions.


hey Pete

Ive been working this issue on and off. Sorry But LHPUP Record has been eating my time between class.

here is where I stand so other can search in the right area

First I thought it was browser related. (not true)

Then I thought it was because Hal was not started (not true)
Code:
/etc/init.d/rc.hald start
Starting HAL daemon: /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes


If I first run rc.hald restart then google chrome sfs I can get it to load a video but the video screen is black with no sound.

Over thanksgiving break im going to tackle the issue.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 23:13    Post subject: Amazon movies  

Hi Pete22 and meeki,

I don't have an Amazon Prime subscription, however I found this page with system requirements:

Watching Amazon Instant Video - Watch Now on a Mac or PC

It also states "Note: At this time, HD movies can't be streamed from a computer."

Of course that page might be outdated or incomplete and I didn't see anything about Linux there. However I often watch streaming video at espn3.com and sometimes the free games at MLB.TV, for what it's worth... So unless a flash plugin update would be related, I don't know what might help.

TaZoC

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 23:27    Post subject: Tentative release notes for LH64 5.15 RC1  

Here are some tentative release notes for upcoming 5.15 RC1.

What's new
Console-LHP icon, panel launcher and ROX-Filer use /usr/local/bin/defaultterminal, with LXTerminal instead of urxvt, (context menus for easier copy & paste; better UTF-8 support.) The default terminal can be changed. See Menu -> Setup -> Default-Programs-Chooser

pEqualizer and streamripper for Pmusic-2.6.6 (thanks to Zigbert and 01micko)

Lighthouse Update has a new simplified GUI when new packages are found; otherwise defaults to showing all packages in main GUI, with option to hide installed ones.

Inxi-term System Info Script with tips in resized terminal window (thanks to rokytnji & the authors)

gpart partition rescue option in GParted (experimental) (thanks to BarryK and gcmartin)

get_libreoffice - Download and build latest LibreOffice SFS (01micko, L18L, shinobar)

Localized some desktop icons

A couple of new backgrounds for the desktop.

Bugfixes

Rox thumbnails off by default (prevents freeze when clicking on /proc or /sys)
Extract-pet and Extract-txz slowdown corrected. Support 7-zipped rpms with Devx.
Init script: humongous initrd didn't load zWine SFS
NLS support: Firefox, Geany, GKrellm, GParted, Pmusic, Pburn, Thunderbird, VLC, Xine

Package versions
Firefox-15.0.1, adobe-flashplugin-11.2.202.243, Geany-1.2.2, L64_Update-514u2, gpart-0.1h_11-x86_64-3sl

pburn-3.7.5, pmusic-2.6.6, pfilesearch-1.32, pfind-5.04, (Zigbert) pEqualizer-0.4.0, (01micko)

curl-7.21.4-x86_64-1, ffmpeg-0.11.2, get_libreoffice-0.18-3-LH64, streamripper-1.64.6-x86_64-1sl, libquicktime-1.2.4-x86_64-1sl

lm_sensors-3.1.2-x86_64-1, nrg2iso-0.4-8-x86_64, curl-7.21.4-x86_64-1

snap2-4.25, (Lloyd G. Standish) grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.8.0, (shinobar)

drives-manager-L64-1.7, sys-info-1.4-noarch, xine-ui-0.99.5-x86_64-3, xine-lib-1.1.19-x86_64-1

Devx SFS: git-1.7.12.2-x86_64, fossil-1.2-x86-64, p7zip-full_9.04~dfsg.1-1_amd64 and many other updates

Pet/SFS
Thunderbird-15.0.1-x86_64. VLC-2.0.3-x86_64-1 with support for webm, streaming and most A/V formats.

KDE SFS: Added libvnc for Krdc remote desktop. 3 extra backgrounds.

MPlayer SFS adds Muppymplayer-loop and webm support.

-TaZoC

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012, 02:42    Post subject:  

Sounds good Taz!
I did try both .pet and .sfs for chrome browser but I could get neither to work on my older sempron-based 64 bit system, but the .pet did work on my aspire laptop so I've replaced Chromium ver 13 with Chrome ver 21. I'm still interested in LHP 514 and it's one of the few pups that is relatively easy to run Compiz on. Some of the animation effects like Zoom and Magic Lamp seem to think my task bar is on the right of the screen, so the "Zoom to taskbar on minimize" option goes there and not to the top where I usually position it. But all the rest of the Compiz effects - wobbly windows, the 3d cube etc. all work well.

One thing I notice for LHP 514 versus some other pups and distros is the speed with which they boot up. After the "loading X" sys-message my LHP 514 takes quite a long time before a screen appears. I was surprised at how quickly Macpup529 gets the desktop up and running (although its not a 64 bit distro) and also how good it has been at getting the correct parameters for the screen on first boot.

Great to see you back in the saddle.

B.

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