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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 10:56    Post subject:  

This help?
Printing in Opera for Linux
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/481/

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 11:03    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:

@James C..
Tested on a couple of slow machines, still working Confused . Maybe try on a new install.


Deleted save file and started over.......appears to be working now. Testing is fun....... Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 11:14    Post subject:  

Testing is even more fun after some sleep....... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 12:10    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Ok.. here is what to consider.

Is this a showstoppper bug? (opera printing). Is opera a better option than seamonkey? (It has mail, a decent wysiswyg editor).. with I ship Flash, w/o I dont. Seamonkey is failing on older arches (i586). Is opera? (don't know yet). Do we forget both and ship firefox, sylpheed and no wysiwyg editor? (that will be no flash too). The seamonkey-solibs package is absolutely needed if there is no seamonkey shipped. It's about 4M xz compressed. So there is really no gain at all with shipping firefox except in the 'popularity' stakes. (ssl and ssh are compiled against nspr and nss).

Size is still certainly a consideration, even though this has bloated out to 150M with xz compression (that would be about 175 gz). It is a requirement to ship with mesa with these new kernels, and I think slackware is compiling all xorg drivers with the dependency. Min requirements for slacko have been 1 GHz proc, and 512M (recommended) RAM, though you can get away with less.

Just my random thoughts before I hit the sack.


It's easy to download,unpack in /mnt/home,drag binary and icon to
desktop, the newest Seamonkey and Firefox (unless you're on dialup of
course), it's a browser bonanza.
Works fine for browsing at least, I don't use a printer so I don't
know about that.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 12:52    Post subject: Broadcom wl support  

I've uploaded the delta file to allow the Broadcom wl wifi driver to be installed on Slacko 5.3.6.0 k3.2.30-4g to:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76495&start=20

[edit] also added the delta for k3.5.5-PAE [/edit]

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 13:09    Post subject: Slacko - beta [5.4]
Subject description: Quick initial test
 

Manual frugal install to fat32 USB2 stick. Syslinux 4.04 boot.
Initial boot to desktop with expected res (1920x1080) using Nouveau driver. Working sound & wired ethernet.

Installed & tested the following pets:

    fontwizard|Configure fonts for LCD
    faenza_lrx_new|
    Blue-Tripack|JWM themes
    pupsaveconfig-2.2.4|PupSave personal storage setup
    google_chrome-21-slacko|Access the Internet
    flashplayer11-11.2.202.238|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
    PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit|PupSnap screen capture


Browser:
Playdayz's Chrome 21 pet works fine and may be a better alternative to Opera/Seamonkey. (flash built in)

PPM:
Strange green icons showed up: (See screen-shot)

http://s12.postimage.org/fa8i4oev1/5_3_6_0.png

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 13:11    Post subject: Opera thoughts & other oddities  

I'm not an Opera fan - I particularly dislike its very complicated font handling - see screenie attached.

I've tried loading chromium-19.0.1072.0-slacko.pet - it doesn't run but strangely if run from terminal it gives what appears to be a success message but doesn't run.

On uninstallling it, my defautlbrowser was set to mozstart - not back to opera.

Also on uninstalling I had a disappearing cursor across part of the ppm window......

[edit]
Chromium 22 for Slacko 5.4 Beta now available from:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=656585#656585
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 13:55    Post subject: showstopper  

rcrsn51 wrote:
01micko wrote:
Is this a showstoppper bug? (opera printing)

Printing through CUPS-PDF > ePDFView > printer seems to work reliably, provided that you remember to do it. So I don't think that it classifies as a show-stopper.

But I'm a Firefox guy, so I'm not really qualified to comment.



The PC in my house is used by wife and kids. Despite the fact that they are intelligent enough to memorize this, it is prone to be forgotten, eating into my ink and paper budget. In my personal case I would not install Opera, just to prevent the hassle. In my case for Opera it is a showstopper, not for Slacko ....
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 18:14    Post subject:  

..and opera was looking so promising.. I'll still try with the opera devs but the bug has been there for ages, and as usual with anything cross platform, Linux bugs get the least attention. Crying or Very sad I still may use it for a THINSlacko build since I did all the work to get it playing 'kind of' nice with puppy. That mozstart thing mentioned (peebee) must be hard coded in woof somewhere, I tried to prise all that stuff out. Looks like I'll have to make it a symlink to defaultbrowser.

Chrome/chromium/iron are nice, but just too big, the smallest compressed is iron @35M (xz).

peebeee, I believe Chromium is very difficult to compile, it needs special tools install and other stuff. Best to use a deb and modify it for Puppy, that's how it's done I believe.


Next beta (a week maybe?), depends largely on these stupid PPM bugs, which never existed before. I remember installing FF from Slackware and getting the menu entry, kde games the same, in previous slacko versions.. and they ran. I have put code in fixmenus to delete the /etc/profile.d/*.csh files, so that bug will finally be fixed. I asked for that to be fixed ages ago. At least in fixmenus it saves me diffing PPM everytime I woof, which I might have to do anyway because I'll likely have to fix the bugs for slacko.

So maybe firefox eh? & Sylpheed. We'll miss an html editor (well I will) but I'll stick Kompozer and BlueGriffon in PPM. Bluefish is there, works too I think, buts not really wysiwyg. I really want to give seamonkey the boot. That 2M has pissed me off! (re earlier rant about SM).

PAE version for tests is released, k3.5.5 See main post

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 19:42    Post subject: Slacko - beta [5.4]
Subject description: 5360 pae version on hp desktop pc
 

Manual frugal install to a 1tb usb 3.0 external hard drive.

Report Video 1.4 - Thu 4 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.0 - Linux 3.5.5-PAE i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.322 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory 8058MB (177MB used)

Network controller Ralink corp. Device 5390

It's working okay so far, will continue testing.

EDIT:I'm seeing the same small problems as in the non-pae version,the
missing lib in kdegames,it does now have menu entries but the don't
work.
I needed to use your fix to get compiling again.
Videos at cnn.com won't play in Opera but will play in Firefox.

5360 pae is working well apart from these things, great for gaming too
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 20:33    Post subject:  

Anyone else finding that the downloading from the smokey01 website is very slow?

Normally that iso would come to me in about a minute, but it is telling me an hour and a half, running at about 30 kb/s. Same happened yesterday when I downloaded a .pet from the site.

@ 01micko

I find Opera quite good apart from occasional rendering glitches and peculiarities, I don't run a printer here though.
In operational terms I like SeaMonkey and would probably install it in a future Slacko if not included. I am no expert but wonder if the increased size is html5 stuff which is working towards a flash alternative/substitute. The latest SeaMonkey and Opera that I downloaded appeared to both be around 43 M installed, but in Opera about 16 M was locales. An individual user might be able to remove all the unwanted ones to reduce size, but I guess you would want to ship with them all included. For many users the browser is the most important thing so I wouldn't worry about a few megs here and there.

Do you know why the SM in Slacko displays the red "old version" warning when the one in Wary (which is also old and has the updater disabled) does not? Is this a configure option perhaps? A SeaMonkey which is a few versions old is not a major problem if it doesn't have that warning. Would compiling with the updater enabled introduce problems?

As you say, if you want to appeal to the general public then maybe Firefox is best because of the familiarity factor, but lets see what others say and ultimately the decision is yours. Thanks for all the hard work.

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 22:45    Post subject:  

Slacko 5.3..6.0 frugal install looks good so far Dell D430

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Report Video 1.4 - Thu 4 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.0 - Linux 3.2.30-4g i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
oem: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

=== /etc/X11/xorg.conf ===
#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"
Load "synaptics" #loadsynaptics

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
# Load "type1"
# Load "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
# Load "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present). xorg 7.4/5 need explicit disable to disable...
# Disable "glx" #LOADGLX

# This loads dri module (if present). 7.4 loads it by default, have to disable...
# Load "dri" #LOADDRI
# Disable "dri"

EndSection

#
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 23:46    Post subject: Slacko - beta [5.4]
Subject description: openbox+tint2+wbar
 

I've been having some fun customizing 5360 pae by adding
openbox+tint2+wbar.
It's pretty time consuming but I like the result, I'd better back up
my save file before I break something Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2012, 01:35    Post subject:  

Slacko 5.3.60 live pfix=ram on another old box. The hdd just stopped working so no swap.
Display and sound working on boot.....had to use SNS to connect with the usb network adapter,

# report-video
Report Video 1.4 - Fri 5 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.0 - Linux 3.2.30-4g i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1
oem: Copyright 1998 TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS INC.

X Server: Xorg Driver used: trident

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
54 frames in 5.1 seconds = 10.628 FPS
57 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11.362 FPS
48 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9.581 FPS
56 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11.132 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
Memory : 1025MB (158MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 05 Oct 2012 12:32:23 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50

Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815
VGA compatible controller : Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1

For what it's worth, Opera crashed in mid-post.......
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Oct 2012, 05:57    Post subject: Slacko - beta [5.4]
Subject description: More tests
 

Following pets now tested - no missing libs or deps.

    Blue-Tripack|JWM themes
    pupsaveconfig-2.2.4|PupSave personal storage setup
    google_chrome-21-slacko|Access the Internet
    flashplayer11-11.2.202.238|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
    PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit|PupSnap screen capture
    tempiconsvg-0.13-i486|tray temperature monitor
    PupClockset-1.9.2|PupClockset manager
    xdotool-2.20110530.1-3|no description provided
    lxtask-1.4|Manage running processes
    lm_sensors-3.1.2|sensorsfor cpu, motherboard, fan


Pleased and surprised to see tempiconsvg pick up my new video card temperature but the icon shows as blue with very small text.
Is there a quick fix for this? ........... Mind you MS would describe it as a "feature" rather than a bug. Laughing
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