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666philb


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 05:44    Post subject:  

i had the login icon already and must have forgotten to include it in the pets. For the 'play all videos' icon i had to search through the glade script in /usr/shar/gtk-youtube-viewer to see what is was calling. then i just grabbed a 32x32 icon from google and called it start-here.png

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BTW, I have got gtk-youtube-viewer to work with VLC-GTK 2.5,
so I've updated the Akita pkg in the repo, it no longer needs mplayer! Very Happy


can you let me know how you did that. as mplayer audio & video tends to go out of sync on hd streams on my computer.

cheers

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 06:53    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
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BTW, I have got gtk-youtube-viewer to work with VLC-GTK 2.5,
so I've updated the Akita pkg in the repo, it no longer needs mplayer!
can you let me know how you did that. as mplayer audio & video tends to go out of sync on hd streams on my computer. cheers

I have VLC-GTK 2.5 installed, with vlc 1.1.9 (lua enabled)... I haven't tested a VLC without lua support, but I reckon that won't work. I've linked to vlc_nogui_lua in previous posts if you need it.

I don't know if VLC will be better for HD, I usually watch 360p or 480p

And here are the settings in gtk-youtube-viewer:
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 08:43    Post subject:  

Installed again on my craptop. Works fine, just wish I can use my usb wifi adapter Sad . I might have to buy a PCMCIA ethernet card (which are hard to find).

EDIT: I know I need the module 2800 or something like that...

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:03    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
Installed again on my craptop. Works fine, just wish I can use my usb wifi adapter Sad . I might have to buy a PCMCIA ethernet card (which are hard to find).

EDIT: I know I need the module 2800 or something like that...

Which wifi card is it? There is a thread with loads of extra drivers for 2.6.25.16 from tempestuous... http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34159

I tend to buy hardware based on whether or not it works with my software, not the other way around..

I just bought 3x Dell Optiplexes: 2x GX620s and 1x 755 Core 2 Duo.. They were about £25 each..
Then I bought 2x LCD monitors, for £20 each.. Had 1 already..
And finally I had to buy 3x USB keyboard+mouse, total £10..
I also just bought 3x wifi adapters for them, £3.50 each..

So far, about £135 total, and 3 working PCs better than my old one Smile

Just need to figure out the cheapest, easiest way to get VGA to TV-out..
A cheap, low profile, low power gfx card? Or a cheap VGA to S-Video/HDMI converter?

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 12:19    Post subject:  

I don't know the specific model, but it is from Ralink. It works in CorePlus (An official TinyCore flavor), it works on my newer pc with slacko 533, but not Akita.
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LoboGrande

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Oct 2012, 05:24    Post subject: DVI-VGA adapter work!  

Dirt cheapest solution is DVI to VGA adapter if you're going into the PCI port on a newish low end LCD TV. What type of AGP/PCI-e card does it use currently? The newest card I know for sure with Svideo output is the NVidia 7300 PCI-e cards that also have DVI output. It would have to be something fairly old, 6-7 years at least. S-Video Out is also pretty crappy quality for gaming or DVD playing even with CRT's. One of the reasons they went to DVI for LCD monitors.

I can tell you from experience that those older cards don't support HDMI ie DVI to HDMI cables with Emerson HD LCD TV's. You'll have to go DVI-VGA or component inputs on the TV. Resolution is limited to 1024x 768x75 on the Full Screen setting only on the TV. You'll get a 'format not supported' message if you try higher resolutions on the TV then it will reset back to 1024x768. You'll need a newer card with HDMI output with an HDMI cable to the HDMI port.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Oct 2012, 08:23    Post subject:  

any more progress?
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 12:10    Post subject:  

cheers sc0ttman,

i got it streaming with my normal vlc, but playback wasn't smooth, it kept stopping like it was buffering.

i may try your vlc. do you know if your vlc gtk supports dvb tuners?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 13:40    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
cheers sc0ttman,

i got it streaming with my normal vlc, but playback wasn't smooth, it kept stopping like it was buffering.

VLC-GTK will auto append something like &fmt=18 to the URLs... That might be the difference...

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i may try your vlc. do you know if your vlc gtk supports dvb tuners?

No idea, you can see the compile options in the vlc_nogui 1.1.9 thread...
I dont know *anything* about DVB, but would love to get that working in VLC-GTK too...

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 13:41    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
any more progress?

without knowing your exact hardware, i can't really help... even then, I know nothing about compiling modules, firmware, etc...

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 13:45    Post subject: Re: DVI-VGA adapter work!  

LoboGrande wrote:
Dirt cheapest solution is DVI to VGA adapter if you're going into the PCI port on a newish low end LCD TV. What type of AGP/PCI-e card does it use currently?

That's my point - I have no gfx card, only the onboard gfx... With the standard VGA out off the mobo...

My TV has S-video and HDMI ...
I need to get the VGA output of my PC into my TV, cheaply...
Even a gfx card might be overkill...

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starhawk

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 15:34    Post subject:  

sc0ttman, what you need is properly called a scan converter.

Go to eBay and search "vga s-video". You're looking for something like this --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-MAC-VGA-to-TV-AV-Composite-RCA-S-Video-Converter-Box-/150921308828?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item23239c6a9c

Don't get that specific example unless you want to pay for the boat -- it's in Florida!

...or, if you really do want to use the HDMI plug, search for "vga male to hdmi female converter" and ignore the many many models which have a female VGA connector -- which is almost all of them! (The ones you want appear to mention "tablet" in their title...) Here's one --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-HDMI-Male-to-VGA-Female-Audio-Output-Adapter-Converter-for-Tablet-PC-TAC034-/221024382950?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3376146fe6

Again, don't buy that specific one. It comes on a sampan from China!

...one last idea. A common connector on British and European TVs is the SCART connector. This is the only case where you can use a passive cable -- all the others will fail or damage your equipment, because the signal protocol is different! Here is a VGA to SCART connector in the UK --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-to-VGA-SVGA-Male-Female-Projector-Plasma-HD-Cable-1M-1-5M-1-8M-2M-2-5M-3M-/330701716131?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item4cff5bbaa3

Of course you want the "SCART to VGA Male" option. 2pounds 40pence and shipping sounds quite reasonable to me for that Wink :p It's in Greenford, UK, so you should be safe ordering it.

Hope I've been helpful!

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 20:05    Post subject: Yeah, what Starhawk said!  

Going to run into a stinkload of problems if it's an older box or laptop trying to get it to run on newish HD capable TV unless you use a converter box and passive cables. Your on-board GFX is likely limited to some much lower resolution than your HD TV runs at. You won't be able to use the whole screen. That's what happens when I run an s-video cable from my GeForce 5200 to my Emerson HDTV. I'll have to wide black bands on either side of the screen.

There are several VGA to HDMI converters out on the market. The big question is how much are you will to pay? One other thing when buying a VGA to HDMI Converter is what will version of HD will your TV support? 720P, 1080P maybe even higher? Match your converter to the highest capability that you TV will support otherwise you might be disappointed with your set's performance.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 15:15    Post subject:  

Oooh, I see Akita has nearly 200,000 views...

Anywyay.. Thanks for the info guys, I think I will just keep it simple, and go for a cheap low power, low profile card - although I know not all low profile cards fit in the optiplex SFFs... Prob a budget ATI Radeon something... the most I wanna spend is about £25 quid inc delivery. Actually, I could get a cheap old PCI gfx card, just for the DVI/S-video out, £7, but I'll go for something that isn't worthless for 3D/HD...
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About the next Akita:

it will mainly have lots and lots of updates to VLC-GTK, plus better right click options for images, plus updated apps from other puppy users, such as the latest PupMenu, Pupsnap, Pburn, FFMPEG Vidcap (by Tman), etc and also updated apps in the PPM...

There is also a right click option for images called 'Start Slideshow' - you will be able to use this to have rolling wallpapers that change every 10 minutes or whatever you time you choose..

pavrecord will also be included, although I can't seem to get it to do anything except record buggered up audio... Probably Akitas old ffmpeg, but VLC-GTK 2.6 works as a great little screen capture/file converter now anyway...

Yet to find an elegant solution for using nobus in the PPM, with Firefox etc... Can't work out how to make sure the real dbus is not overwritten by nobus, if nobus is installed at a later date..

It seems Flash 11 might also need to be updated... Is it me, or is flash-get failing with Flash 11 download and install again...??

Also, I tried Technos mupdf-static-gtkdialog1-GUI-xdotool-thingy, it crashed on me when trying to search text within a pdf... Will try to get this working right, it's a nice GUI for a great PDF viewer...

And I still wanna get Tmans 'buildpet' thing working, with a nice big set of apps that can be compiled... I have found a lot of the build scripts are out of date though, would be nice if the build scripts had the options of trying to get & build the latest versions...

I'm still hoping to get finished translations for /usr/bin/akita_setup....

Finally, I am unable to get around the compiling error message that Akita spits out every now and then about xrender.pc not found... The file is there, include/pkconfig files are fine, I have even copied and moved stuff from /usr/X11R7 to /usr, still nothing... if anyone can help, it would be great. I think epdfview will give this error... Try it using Puppizard...

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 19:10    Post subject:  

re: mupdf
I found the bug, xdotool does a strstr to find the window, so I just renamed the gtkdialog --wmclass to uPDF (along with the rest of the app) so that it didn't get found by xdotool when it looked for a window with "mupdf" ... the latest version has working search and should be stable, but I need to find out the gtkdialog4 version of gtkdialog1's chooser for opening files.

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