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recommendation for a 10" - 15" not too old but laptop?
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Van78

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 08:35    Post_subject:  recommendation for a 10" - 15" not too old but laptop?  

Hello

I got an Thoshiba Sattelite that is heavy and has dvd rom and such things I do not really need and a Samsung R16 that is old, heavy and has no good tft.

I am looking for something less clumsy in order to run puppy and surf the net and do some CSS, Latex and so....

All in all, laptop should be light, have a nice screen and usable keyboard and long running times. HDMI would be cool.

I have got a 2,5" 500GB hybrid SDD drive that I could build in or I go entirely with out hdd in order to spare weight.

Do you have any recommendations for me?

the perfect puppy laptop you would buy twice or again? Smile)


thanks alot
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 13:14    Post_subject:  

Once again I'm gonna give you a little reading to do. Hope you don't mind Laughing If you do... well, my advice comes with a money back guarantee so you get back as much as you paid.

Get an external enclosure for that hybrid drive... then you can boot it on any system with a USB port. Er, the enclosures on eBay are very cheap for a reason -- if you go that route, buy five or six, and you should have enough for a year or so.

As for the laptop...

I find the Thinkpad T4* laptops to be very nice, although they have one flaw. I've a T42 with a screen claiming it's a T41 -- there is a design defect in these laptops, where if the laptop underside is pressed upwards (for example if it's sitting on your knee) it will flex the chassis and the motherboard and the graphics chip will come loose. So I had a T41 with a nice screen and destroyed graphics, and a T42 with a low-res screen and working graphics. Swapping screens gave the best of both in one. These laptops are common on eBay for about $100-150 depending on how much work you want to give them. (The upper price range is for "comes with battery, charger, and --sometimes-- HDD".) I'll note that IBM's computer division became Lenovo in 2005, and I don't have anything new enough really to speak to the brand after that transition.

Dell is a good brand as long as you don't have to pay for repairs, and they have nice support as long as you're under warranty (anything from eBay is not!). Extended warranties are expensive but (in the one case of Dell laptops) possibly worth it if you purchase an exceptionally troublesome machine. The problem with Dell is that, like the other major brands, they do not conform to physical design standards. In the case of laptops, this isn't an issue -- there are no such standards other than for drives and (sort of) LCD sizes. Dell desktops, on the other hand, tend to make my eyebrows go up when I look inside.

HPs new and old are okay -- but their tech support is universally described as horrible (or worse). If it breaks, you're on your own.

ASUS makes nice computers. If you like tiny screens (11" or smaller) get an ASUS netbook. Just don't blame me if you get eyestrain using it! Full disclosure: one of these with a 10.4" screen was my main system for three years. I now have a handmedown Dell Inspiron 6400 with a 15.6" screen and it is so much nicer on my eyes. I wear glasses, to boot.

Last but not least... my mother has a Sony VAIO VGN-S360. It chews through hard drives rapidly (I think it's a thermal issue -- a CF card + IDE adapter would work well here!) but other than that it is incredibly durable. It has a nice screen, 13.3" IIRC -- but with insanely high resolution possibilities. The only other issue with it is that it takes a very strange style of RAM called MicroDIMM that is rather rare both in stores and in systems (eBay is good for this sort of thing).

Mind you all of these are not terribly powerful machines. My ASUS netbook has an Atom processor. The Thinkpad and VAIO both have Pentium M CPUs, which are about ten years out of date. My Inspiron is a little newer -- it originally had a Core Duo in it, but it now has a Core2Duo and it is great stuff.

If I were going to put a Puppy on each of these machines, here's what I'd use...
ASUS 1000HEB Netbook: Fluppy or (older) Puppeee, mostly for the extra drivers. Puppeee is actually the first version of Puppy I ever used, although I don't remember what version as it was some 2.5-3 years ago.
IBM Thinkpad T42: I use Puplite 5 on this a lot (Akita Linux is a newer version of same) and it's pretty speedy. It could probably handle Wary just fine, but anything with a PAE kernel (eg Racy 53) will not boot. Not sure about Slacko 533 -- I'll have to check.
Sony VAIO VGN-S360: runs Puplite 5 pretty well. I'd actually recommend Akita here, something more powerful will need swap space as this particular example only has 1gb RAM in it and it's technically maxed out*.
Dell Inspiron 6400: any Puppy you want. I've run jejy69's GNOME-Slacko a couple times on this thing and it is FINE. Heck, it'd probably handle Lighthouse64 just fine if I wanted it to... I had a bad experience with that particular Puplet once, though, so I know it's not for me.

*You can get 1gb MicroDIMMs on eBay for a ridiculous price and up the RAM to 2gb without much issue... but I haven't done that, mostly because of the expense. That stuff is NOT cheap!

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Van78

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Oct 2012, 16:14    Post_subject:  

Starhawk

your litte reading made my eyes turn wet Smile


Thanks again for this extensive journey into the world of little PC's and their capabilities running Puppies and their up- and downsides.

What I am going to do is that I will compare my R16 and other alternatives against the Dell Inspirion. May be I will find something suitable. An our ago I stumbled about an Aurora laptop with less than 2.5 kg and more than 7hrs batt time...

But I cant find any deal out there. However, I might have to take a run to our local super media dealer and see what it hot today.

After all, I will take an enclosure for my Puppy need or just a 4gb flashdrive.

thanks alot and a nice day
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct 2012, 15:53    Post_subject:  

Just curious, Van78, where are you located?
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