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Van78
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desktop icons saluki

#3621 Post by Van78 »

hello

I do not know how to search through the 242 pages in this thread so I gonna aks here though I am sure it has been dealed with before :(


Ok, I got Saluki 23 on USB flashdrive frugal and frugal hdd.
Both have the same issue in common. I can not see any desktop icons and I can not change the wallpaper. This is not so fine.

I have a Samsung R65 laptop with 1400x1000 Nvidia I think . If that is of any interest.

Can you help me since I only want a nice looking puppy that is easy to be administered for a Windows newbe.


Thanks alot

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Re: Audacious 3.2.3

#3622 Post by dennis-slacko531 »

rg66 wrote:Ok, here's Audacious 3.2.3 with mp3 support for Saluki. Made from the Lupu pet with all needed libs added and tested on Saluki 023. Hopfully one of the more experienced guy's will check it out to see if it's ok but so far so good.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?cqfaby8lk7dgk21
Just saying thanks for Audacious pet. Works great, always like this music player best.

Say are there any alpha's out yet on Carolina :?:

EDIT: ...Oh, I see October 5th is the expected beta release date, okay...
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#3623 Post by Geoffrey »

mini-jaguar wrote:I've gone back to testing this, and I figured out something about the bug described by me on page 235.

It doesn't matter that it says "USB DISK". In fact my other USB stick is simply named by its manufacturer. sdb1 (no name) is an sD card which plugs right in. (see picture below-it is Saluki 23)

Although I guess it could be what was said earlier about it being reformatted, as it doesn't show the manufacturer as its name.

I tried to see if this unmounts correctly in Saluki 17 (because I already had a burned CD), and sure enough, it unmounted correctly. It also had "USB DISK" under the icon, just like in 23.

So the problem seems to be the newer unmounting system in the newer versions of Saluki. It is nice and fancy, looks like MacOS or Ubuntu, but it has this bug. I don't think my stick is guilty, as it works fine in about 20 or so other OSes I used it with.

I also tried Saluki 23 on three different computers, and it always bugs with that USB stick, but that USB stick always works fine with other OSes, tried on at least 7 different computers.
This should fix the unmount problem, also fixes Firefox and SeaMonkey crashing when mounting drives.

http://saluki-linux.com/Forum/viewtopic ... 1679#p1679
[b]Carolina:[/b] [url=http://smokey01.com/carolina/pages/recent-repo.html]Recent Repository Additions[/url]
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elroy

Carolina Linux

#3624 Post by elroy »

This will be the last post on the Saluki forum concerning Carolina. Carolina now has it's own thread located here.

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#3625 Post by Van78 »

Is something special with Saluki or why do interested user not receive any replies on a question concerning Saluki?

I got a problem with Saluki I never had before with any Puppy and whre I did not find any help on the net.


....---> my Saluki does not show any desktop icons!?

What can I do please?

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#3626 Post by OscarTalks »

Van78 wrote:my Saluki does not show any desktop icons!?
What can I do please?
Which icons do you want on your desktop?

Some are controlled from menu>control panel>desktop>launch>icons

Drive icons controlled from menu>control panel>XFCE Desktop Drive Icons>launch

For program icons go to /usr/share/applications and drag the ones you want out onto the desktop as usual.

That is on my Saluki 021.
Oscar in England
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#3627 Post by Van78 »

I did a fresh install on my laptop and now icons are there.

FYI they were on the older install also there but gone missing some how. Dissipated...

BUT

I had the 1st install first running on my PC! Then I put it on a flashdrive and moved it to my hdd on my laptop. Then I booted the frugal by the means of grub4dos.

So, I assume Saluki or all other modern puppies are not that mobile any more than the ones I had earlier...
May be they are and I have to make adjustments?

I dont know.

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#3628 Post by mini-jaguar »

greengeek wrote:
mini-jaguar wrote:I've gone back to testing this, and I figured out something about the bug described by me on page 235.

So the problem seems to be the newer unmounting system in the newer versions of Saluki. It is nice and fancy, looks like MacOS or Ubuntu, but it has this bug. I don't think my stick is guilty, as it works fine in about 20 or so other OSes I used it with.
Hi mini-jaguar, looks like that might be a tricky bug to resolve. I think it would be worthwhile to make a copy of your mbr so that it is available for future troubleshooting (just in case the mbr ends up being implicated...)

I have had some odd issues with Saluki that went away when I changed to a different mbr (ok, might be nothing to do with your particular issue but just thought I'd mention it).

(If you do want to save a copy of the mbr there is a topic here that describes a way:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2bb53d871f
and also the GRUB wikka mentions taking a backup copy about a quarter of the way down:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/GRUB
This happens on EVERY computer I try to boot Saluki on, even without installing Saluki (just using a live CD).

It seems I need to check the USB stick's mbr.

O.k., I checked that thread and am a bit at a loss as to what to do. How do I check if the USB stick has an mbr on it in the first place?

I tried TestDisk that Google suckered me into thinking it can be used to examine the mbr, but now it seems it can only repair them.

Should I just download that hex editor and post the results of the first few sectors?

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#3629 Post by greengeek »

mini-jaguar wrote:This happens on EVERY computer I try to boot Saluki on, even without installing Saluki (just using a live CD).
Yes, sorry - i was not clear - what I mean is that the usb stick will have had sector 0 written in the factory in a way that is most meaningful to Windows. (Rightly or wrongly I am referring to sector 0 as the mbr, even though it also contains FAT data). Of course the stick may have had the mbr portion of sector 0 rewritten since (depending on what programme and options were used to format it...). Puppy seems to handle usb sticks better when sector 0 has been written in certain ways (Grub4Dos does a good job, as does syslinux mbr.bin).

What I was suggesting was to use the code suggested by rcrsn51 in that topic I referred to, just to make a readable copy of sector 0 in case it became handy later on for the purposes of identifying what is upsetting Saluki.

When I had strange boot problems I found some other topics that suggested methods of how to read/analyse that sector 0 data, but it's complex and my head spun too much so I just kept a copy of the data and went ahead with reformatting in various ways till Saluki was happy. Grub4Dos seemed to have managed it for me.

Also - Gparted does not change the mbr portion of sector 0 when you completely reformat the stick. (I used to think it was completely wiping the stick but it doesn't - and the operating system can be upset by what is left in those first 446 bytes of sector 0).

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Open with

#3630 Post by rg66 »

I've just noticed that on my custom built Saluki 023 when I use the "open with" from the right click menu all the apps are listed randomly when they used to be alphabetical before the build. Any way to change this back?
X-slacko-5b1 - X-tahr-2.0 - X-precise-2.4
[url=http://smokey01.com/rg66/]X-series repo[/url]

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SPAM on the Saluki forum

#3631 Post by Wognath »

The Saluki forum
http://www.saluki-linux.com
tech support topicis getting large amounts of spam. edit: It seems to be mostly in the tech support area. Is there someone with the necessary knowledge who would kindly volunteer to put in a filter?
Thanks in advance.
-humble Saluki user

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#3632 Post by okokoook »

hello everyone

i am using saluki 023 currently. is there any way to edit exo-mount to add utf8 support because every time i try to mount my flashdrive in vfat32 from thunar sidebar, my file names in that flashdrive shows like "?????". i did a little research on the exo-mount issue. someone says to edit mount.rc file. i could not find that file. does anyone know how to address this problem?

thank you in advance

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#3633 Post by starhawk »

This might help.

On most puppies (I don't have saluki open in front of me, sorry) there is a "personalize settings" wizard, also called "firstrun wizard" or "firstboot wizard".

Open that. It will display the "welcome to [insert Puppy name here]" box and then give you a bunch of different useful options. One is a checkbox to enable UTF-8. Check the box and click the OK button. It will make you restart X after a minute or two (restarting X closes your active programs but it will not unmount anything).

After that you should be good to go.

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#3634 Post by mini-jaguar »

O.k., here it is. The first one is the USB stick that has been reformatted, I think a new partition table laid out, works well in any OS doesn't unmount in Saluki. The second has the factory formatting and works properly in Saluki.

The main differences are:
1. The second has the Windows 98 bootloader.
2. The second has a media descriptor.
3. The second shows hidden sectors, but both have hidden files, namely the automatically generated trashes files.
4. The second has no label, but mounts in Saluki as the manufacturer's name. The first mounts as "USB DISK", as stated.

I suspect the problem is that the Saluki 23 disk unmounting only works with USB sticks that have that piece of software that comes factory on the USB sticks and doesn't allow copying of certain bought files (audio, ebooks), so it won't work with reformatted drives. But reformatted drives work fine in other OSes, including proprietary/non-open source.

Not really sure this is the problem though. Maybe someone else can try a reformatted/new partition table USB stick.
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spam on Saluki-Forum

#3635 Post by mikeslr »

Hi Wognath,

Sorry about the spam problem on Saluki-Forum.
If I understand websites correctly, only its Administrator can install anti-spam addons, extensions, plugins. The most anyone else can do is research and recommend. But to do even that, we would have to know what software was used to create the website.
Examination of the forum indicates that it was built with phpBB and uses the sultanTheme style. But there are different versions of phpBB, and may be different versions of sultanTheme for each version.
You didn't mention if the Blog also was also being spammed. It was built with Wordpress. As there is an associated Forum, there really is no reason to allow comments to the Blog. So the easiest way to deal with spam is just to not allow comments.
If I recall correctly, in order to post on the Forum, you have to register. Registered spammers can be banned: i.e., their registration revoked. That won't stop them from seeking to register under a new name. I'm not sure, but there may be a plugin for phpBB which will block a specific IP address. If so, in addition to banning, a spammer's IP address can be blocked. Which, of course, won't stop spammers from posting from a different IP address, or if they can spoof a different IP address. It is my understanding that most spam comes out of Russia, the Ukraine, and China. There may be a plugin to exclude posting from an entire region. But that amounts to "throwing the baby out with the bath-water." The alternative is to require even registered users to complete a Captcha or KeyCaptcha. I particularly like the ones which require the use of a mouse to move pieces of a jigsaw puzzle to solve it, as the solution can't be automated (or at least would be very difficult to automate). Captcha's won't stop a dedicated spammer. But do an excellent job of preventing ROBO-Spamming. And perhaps there's an additional plugin so that before or after completing the Captcha you have to wait 60 seconds and click OK or continue. The more hoops a spammer has to go thru, the more likely he/she will be to direct his/her malevolence elsewhere. But, unfortunately, earnest Forum members would also have to accept those inconveniences.

Just like we put up with check-ins at an airport.

Available plugins can be found by typing "phpBB anti-spam" etc. into a search box. Then you'll want to also search whether a plugin conflicts with the sultanTheme jemimah used.

mikesLr

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spam filter

#3636 Post by Wognath »

mikeslr,
Thanks for taking the time to post a very informative reply.
The administrators listed are Jemimah and TTW, a company. I have emailed Jemimah, but she is apparently unavailable at present. The blog has been inactive since July and I haven't seen any spam there.
I'll try emailing the company with my plea. I found the Saluki forum to be very helpful when I switched to Saluki, partly because it doesn't have 243 pages!!
Thanks again.
Wognath

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#3637 Post by greengeek »

mini-jaguar wrote:O.k., here it is. The first one is the USB stick that has been reformatted, I think a new partition table laid out, works well in any OS doesn't unmount in Saluki. The second has the factory formatting and works properly in Saluki..
Hey, good info. I wonder if the number of sectors per cluster has anything to do with it? I don't know enough to be helpful yet, but at least you have managed to capture the info so it can be analysed. Did it capture the actual sector contents to a file so that it can be written back to the stick later if necessary for testing purposes?

elroy

#3638 Post by elroy »

Sorry 'bout the spam on saluki-linux. I was the last moderator standing. I did give adequate warning on that forum that I'd be relinquishing my duties. I've since moved on to developing Carolina (based on Saluki-023). I no longer have the time to moderate the saluki-linux forum due to carolina development. Saluki-linux was extrememly time consuming due to the amount of spam, and the lacking spam controls, and I can't do it any longer while effectively developing a distro at the same time. And some of the previous posts are correct: Jemimah has sole admin-authority at this point, so unless she steps in, filtering at present is impossible. I've banned as many user-names/ip-addressess as I could (and faithfully deleted as much as I could up until the 7th of October - and now you can see what I was up against on an everyday basis), but I fear that the data-base is full, because even banned ip's/user-names are leaking through. And you're correct - most of the spam is coming from Russia/Indonesia. It's relentless. But you can't ban everyone from those locales, as there's dedicated puppy users from those locations. To do so would be counter-productive. I wish I had a better alternative, but unless jemimah becomes involved in the very near future, saluki-linux is for the most part a spammers haven. And unless jemimah picks up with saluki where she left off in the very near future, saluki is a dead end, because jemimah has stopped development on saluki. Geoffrey and I have forked Saluki-023 with Carolina, but Saluki itself, at present, is stagnated. Sad but true...

Just as a reference, not to highlight when they've done anything, but just the last time the people in charge have logged in to saluki-linux, here you have:
jemimah: 8 OCT 2012 (suprising that she hasn't done something...didn't realise this, because this is a very, very recent login).
TTW: 24 JUL 2012
t2linux: 20 SEP 2012
jim3630: 08 JUL 2012

That said, I have a great respect for jemimah, more than any of you (outside of Geoffrey) may know. She showed me more patience than was warranted, and to that I'm eternally grateful. However, things must move forward...

So with all honesty, I don't feel guilty about moving on. I've paid my dues. I'm a firm believer in saluki-linux, as is Geoffrey, but let's be honest...enough is enough. Even though some of these people have logged in recently, they have not contributed in any way-shape-or-form since June/july 2012. And it's now nearing mid October. So no, I don't feel guilty. And you can't make me...

That said, as of 9 OCT 2012, I've mirrored the saluki-linux forum, and will make use of it as it pertains to Carolina Linux. If you have questions concerning Saluki, you can pm me (elroy) or Geoffrey, and we may (no guarantee) be able to help you. We'd suggest you move on to Carolina, but if you can't run PAE, we understand. And we will help you if at all possible.

And with that, because jemimah is non-responsive, we don't have a clue to as long as saluki-linux will even be online! That's why I chose to mirror it. There's some valuable information there.

If you're into self-deprecation, pm me. If we can develop some kind of trust, I may be willing to provide you with my password to the site so that you can delete the spam. But be forewarned...it's a full-time job. They figure out when you sleep. And they employ auto-spam-bots - 7 spams at a time. You won't have much time to do anything else...
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#3639 Post by Wognath »

elroy,
I did not intend my request to reflect in any way on you or Geoffrey. You were both very helpful while moderating the Saluki forum and I clearly understood that you were moving on. mikeslr educated me a little about what is involved in filtering posts. I hoped someone would be interested and able to add a captcha or something, but I now understand that only an administrator can do so. I have emailed both administrators with my request.
In the meantime, I'll check out Carolina. Thanks again for your great work with Saluki.
Wognath

PS I'll be willing to help clean up the forum once a filter is in place, but it seems pointless to try to stay ahead of it until then.

elroy

#3640 Post by elroy »

Hey Wognath, absolutely no offense taken. We're both very big fans of Saluki, and if someone should choose to stay with it, we'll be willing to help out in any way, shape, or form that we can. As far as saluki-linux is concerned, I'd trust someone as yourself, but I wouldn't wish those duties on my worst enemy. The separate forum idea is/was good, but the lack of administrative oversight is the deal-breaker. I hope to see you on the Carolina forum, but if not, I'll help out, and I'm sure Geoffrey will too, to our brethren on the Saluki front. After all, we're all on the 'same page'. Take care...

elroy

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