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Is there a Puppy whch can be booted on an iMac or eMac ???
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2012, 20:30    Post subject:  Is there a Puppy whch can be booted on an iMac or eMac ???
Subject description: Instructions to do this please		  
Can anyone provide to me, or, steer me to "how to boot a PUP on an iMac or eMac"?

I have been given both. And would like to setup to donate to several kids for upcoming holidays.

Thanks in advance for any contributions
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2012, 20:43    Post subject:  
Intel or PowerPC iMacs?

We've got someone working on a PowerPC port of Puppy, but it's not running yet. So at the very least, your eMacs will not be running Puppy.

These links might be useful to you:
http://penguinppc.org/mac/
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/downloads/

There is also an Ubuntu port for the PowerPC but we don't recommend Ubuntu around here because it's fat and sluggish -- Linux is supposed to work well, not sit around the house taking up space!
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Les Kerf

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:07    Post subject:  
I have booted Slacko 531 on our two-year old iMac. It connected to the web just fine, but I didn't do much beyond that. Just wanted to see if it would work.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 15:52    Post subject:  
starhawk wrote:
Intel or PowerPC iMacs?

We've got someone working on a PowerPC port of Puppy, but it's not running yet. So at the very least, your eMacs will not be running Puppy.

These links might be useful to you:
http://penguinppc.org/mac/
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/downloads/

There is also an Ubuntu port for the PowerPC but we don't recommend Ubuntu around here because it's fat and sluggish -- Linux is supposed to work well, not sit around the house taking up space!
I'm sorry that I didn't share that for it is IMPORTANT to note. It a PowerPC G4 for each MAC system. And each has 768MB RAM.

Questions ... So,
  • Is there a BIOS --like step that is needed?
  • Does it recognize CD/DVD boots?
  • Must I use a USB device and if so, what FS must be present on the USB?
Steps to do this is what I would like to understand.

Thanks in advance for any info on how to go about this.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 16:44    Post subject: Put Puppy on an iMac or eMac ???
Subject description: slacko 5360 on intel imac		  
Running from live dvd on intel imac.

Report Video 1.4 - Fri 12 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.0 - Linux 3.2.30-4g i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: M74 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver used: fglrx

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
Version 3.3.11653 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
24530 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4905.869 FPS
24945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4988.933 FPS
24957 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4991.231 FPS

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 3095MB (277MB used)

Using a usb sound card.
Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

It's working great! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 17:17    Post subject:  
gcmartin wrote:
I'm sorry that I didn't share that for it is IMPORTANT to note. It a PowerPC G4 for each MAC system. And each has 768MB RAM.


Sorry, I didn't read carefully and see that you have older macs, my install is on an intel imac about 4 years old.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Oct 2012, 15:09    Post subject: How to boot Puppy on a G4?  
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 14:30    Post subject: How to boot Puppy on a G4?  
Bump, again

Does anyone have any ideas or experiences on a G4 with PUPs?

Help with any knowledge if you can
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 16:17    Post subject:  
As was stated in a previous post, currently there is no usable version of Puppy for the older imacs with the Motorola processor.
There were a few people trying to get Puppy to work on them, but the development is in the very early stages.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 21:00    Post subject:  
I guess if I found one in a dumpster like I did this desktop I am posting with. I would bite the bullet and install

http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-11

till something better comes along.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct 2012, 01:57    Post subject:  
rokytnji wrote:
I guess if I found one in a dumpster like I did this desktop I am posting with. I would bite the bullet and install

http://www.mintppc.org/content/installation-instructions-mintppc-11

till something better comes along.


Hi rokytnji, thanks for the link, I installed it on my G5 imac and it's working pretty well.
No sound yet but hopefully will get that working.

Computer
Processor PowerPC PPC970FX, altivec supported (1800.00MHz)
Memory 2005MB (167MB used)
Operating System Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Wed 24 Oct 2012 01:44:53 AM EDTDisplay
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org FoundationVersion
Kernel Linux 3.2.0-3-powerpc64 (ppc64)
Compiled #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 08:03:56 UTC 2012
C Library Unknown
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sidOpenGL
Vendor Mesa Project
Renderer Software Rasterizer
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes

~ $ glxgears
409 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.642 FPS
411 frames in 5.0 seconds = 82.066 FPS
411 frames in 5.0 seconds = 82.134 FPS
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct 2012, 06:18    Post subject:  
Hi Billtoo,

If wanting some tools to run in Debian for looking at hardware. A lightweight script I run is inxi.

http://code.google.com/p/inxi/

http://code.google.com/p/inxi/wiki/Installation

It might help with looking into details on your soundcard chip on that ppc and I run inxi in all my Distro installs from Puppy to Slackware. It will drop right into Debian also. It is only a script so it is very lightweight install also.

Code:
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -A
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://www.daveserver.info/antiX/debs testing full main
           deb http://debs.slavino.sk testing main
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free


Run

Code:
inxi -h


for a list of options that can be used and

Code:
inxi --recommends


for a hardware check and see what inxi recommends you install to get stuff working better. This install is pretty new still so I have not got around yet to installing glx and mesa yet. Not a big priority for me . Smile

Code:
$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]
           X.Org: 1.12.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@85.0hz
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A


Edit:
Quote:
I run inxi in all my Distro installs from Puppy
Just to show what I mean by that statement. This is the same box/Desktop PC
with Puppy (MacPup 529) on it.

Code:
sh-3.00# inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: puppypc293 Kernel: 3.2.18 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.6.3)
           Desktop: Enlightenment 0.16.999.71440 Distro: macpup Linux
Linux 3.2.18 [i686 arch]
Machine:   System: IBM product: 679421U
           Mobo: IBM model: IBM Bios: IBM version: 20KT46AUS date: 06/04/2004
CPU:       Single core (Intel Pentium 4 CPU,1794.195,256 KB,fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm up pebs bts,3589.90,intel) (-UP-) cache: unknown  flags: (-) bmips: Not Available clocked at  MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           X.org: 1.11.3 driver: nouveau tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: 1c00 1840 bus-ID: 00:1f.5
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.24
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller driver: e100 ver: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:08.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8187B Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Adapter usb-ID: 001-002
           IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: (100.1GB,2.8% used) () 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SV6003H size: 60.1GB temp: 19C
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: IC35L040AVVA07 size: 40.0GB temp: 27C
Partition: ID: swap-1 size: 0.81GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap ID: swap-2 size: 1.17GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 68 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 79.2/1136.1MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.20
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct 2012, 07:12    Post subject:  
rokytnji wrote:
Hi Billtoo,

If wanting some tools to run in Debian for looking at hardware. A lightweight script I run is inxi.



hi rokytnj1,

Thanks for the info, I did get sound working using a usb sound card, I will give your script a try and see if I can get the internal sound working.
It would save me some bucks because I swiped the usb sound card off my intel mac which is running slacko 5365 and I don't really want to buy another one.

EDIT: here's a screenshot, it's working well, thanks again.
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