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oldyeller


Joined: 15 Nov 2011
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Location: Mishawaka IN

PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug 2012, 04:05    Post_subject:  

arcanis wrote:
Did you get a new optical drive yet? I'm just next door (Ohio) so there's some chance I can get one to you soon if you really need it...I believe in what you are doing.
On another note: Confused
Something very strange is happening with my download of Manna001...Except for the splash screen and the file manager assuring me that this ISO file is indeed 461MB, all I have is Slacko 5.3.3.
I verified the md5's, and even burned the image three seperate times in case I had a bad disc or I had inadvertantly clicked on the wrong ISO file before burning, but it still turns out to be Slacko5.3.3 with a Manna OS splash.
There are no Bible programs at all anywhere, no option to change to the IceWM, nothing.
It probably would not change anything, but I feel I should tell you that I downloaded from Firefox14.01 runnning in Slacko 5.3.3 frugal but saved to the partition, used Pburn to burn the disc(s) and then I had to boot using VESA for X because I need the proprietary driver for Slacko to use my RadeonHD 6570 graphics card. In my somewhat panicked state I briefly imagined that installing it to HD, downloading the ATI driver and changing it over would make the image become Manna OS-- just like magic.
But I doubt it.
Ever hear of anything like this before now? I can't imagine what's going on...


Do you have slacko on your computer with a savefile? I am downloading the iso and will check it out, That is the only thing that I can think of is that it is using the savefile of another install of slacko. Let me know if that is the case.

It also should be 462mb.

Edit: I just got done downloading and a frugal install and all was good. Check to make sure Manna is not using a slacko savefile from another install.
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arcanis


Joined: 30 Oct 2011
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Location: Columbus, Ohio

PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug 2012, 12:21    Post_subject:  

I will try the pfix=ram at boot, but I really don't think that it could be picking up the savefile (entire partition) since: 1)The default Slacko 5.3.3. wallpaper was in place, and not the one I got from Desktop Nexus; 2) I use Firefox, and the default Seamonkey was the only browser evident; and, 3) I watched the CD boot-up and no line saying a personal file was being loaded was displayed.
I'll keep you posted.

"Things happen to you, Russell." That's what my wife says.
"Things. Extraordinary things. Things that don't happen to other people so often happen to you. Don't be surprised --just add a little extra time, that's all."
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:38    Post_subject:  

arcanis wrote:
I will try the pfix=ram at boot, but I really don't think that it could be picking up the savefile (entire partition) since: 1)The default Slacko 5.3.3. wallpaper was in place, and not the one I got from Desktop Nexus; 2) I use Firefox, and the default Seamonkey was the only browser evident; and, 3) I watched the CD boot-up and no line saying a personal file was being loaded was displayed.
I'll keep you posted.

"Things happen to you, Russell." That's what my wife says.
"Things. Extraordinary things. Things that don't happen to other people so often happen to you. Don't be surprised --just add a little extra time, that's all."


The reason I think that it is a save file is 1) jwm is not in manna, 2) there is no other back grounds of puppy or any thing else but what I have put in. I did use firefox 14.01 and I still got Manna.001 at 462mb. In the last two days I have downloaded 3 times and did frugal installs of Manna.001 update 2.

In reality I did two frugals and updated Manna.001 update 1.

Hopefully everything will be ok just let me know.
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arcanis


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:41    Post_subject:  

Problem solved.
I took a nap and 'slept on it,' and the answer hit me when I woke up. It could have been the Lord, and it could have been the natural problem solving abilities of the subconscious...I leave that to you.
BUT the thing is this: All of us experienced Puppy users know that you get a choice at the end of a live session to save the "Puppy_version_xx.sfs" main file to HD at shutdown, to speed up the boot process. Ergo, the live CD was finding the "Puppy_Slacko_5.3.3.sfs" file on the HD and mounting it instead of the file on the CD. It did not find a savefile because I opted not to save into a folder but rather to save to an entire partition.
But the result was a pristine Slacko experience instead of the modified Manna OS experience I was looking for.
Now I am going to install this OS into its own partition, and begin using it for my Bible studies.
Thank you.
BTW, you didn't answer my first question: Did you get an optical drive? Are you coming to the Ohio Linux Fest? My wife and I could take a drive to Indiana and bring you one and you could accept it as a donation to a Linux developer or a donation to the Lord's work, as you chose.
We live in Columbus, and we have access to Micro Center's main store, where we can get an optical drive rather cheaply.
PM me if you prefer to answer in that way.
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loyal

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 23:39    Post_subject: hi Loyal Wow look at the responses!  

I am so happy to see responses. Sorry I connect only once a week. I want to keep my focus on the mission.

Ok first as I told Oldyeller I know some html and javascript.
So I may say some really dumb things
But I am not afraid to learn if it can help teh family of God.

Some questions:
If manna is in percise that means it can use ubuntu deb files correct?
If so can you use the lanuage packs from debian?
Then have available many lanngauges interface as far as teh linux system or am I hopeful and dreaming?

Some translations
I have some translation done as I speak Thai. The asia html bible has these translated:
bible books names, chapter, notes, articles, references, songs, and a half way done interface for a new section VBS (various bible studies) ITs a topical listing of bible topics.
I have translation in thai, KR, Lao, some JP and CN.
It is in html. Would that help?

Another Question
How much trouble would it be to add my files for the thai Christians. Its quite big I dont think I'd want to put it inside puppy since it is more than a DVD. Since it is html it runs in puppy. (but i only played with English as I still cant figure out how to install Th in puppy - but I will figure that out. As someone said it is not latin based so it is trouble so is KR, JP and CN. almmost all asian languages are a challenge.

Ive got a bible study. Got ot run
Thanks for all the response and especially oldyeller.

Loyal
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Aug 2012, 04:15    Post_subject:  

Hello loyal,

Manna is not in Precise yet, it is built upon slacko 533. It will be in precise once Barryk has his done so I can redo woof to build it.

There is a language pack sfs by shinobar .http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/ it does work on Manna you will need the devx for slacko 533. It has the Thai lang in it.

There will be alot to do in Manna the way it is since there is a lot of extra stuff installed.

Don't forget to take a look here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80550

shinobar might be able to help you do this pm him and ask.

Cheers
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 18:39    Post_subject:  

Hello Everyone,

I finally compiled my very first app and it does work Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Get it Here fluxbox-1.3.2.i486.pet It is 1.7 mb not sure on how to make it any smaller

would not have done this, but I got my wife to actually use puppy. So she wanted flxubox after seeing it on my computer. So today I did it.

It take a while, but I was able to get it done. It has been tested on two machines.

When using fluxbox and installing programs you will have to refresh the menu using the fluxbox menu refresh-menus. It ony has 3 styles to chose from.


Enjoy
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sat 06 Oct 2012, 09:38    Post_subject:  

Hello Everyone,

You can get more styles here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47029

Also here:

http://customize.org/fluxbox
http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/themes/fluxbox/
http://klowner.com/themes/
http://box-look.org/
http://tenr.de/styles/

Enjoy
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pchan

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 08:54    Post_subject: Bible with highlighting features  

Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a good free Bible with highlighting features?

I find it hard to not make highlighting on verses that are important or inspiring or enlightening whenever I read a Bible.

Would really appreciate if anyone can point me to where i can get a free Bible for puppy linux that allows readers to make highlighting of verses.

Thanks!
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 11:28    Post_subject: Re: Bible with highlighting features  

pchan wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a good free Bible with highlighting features?

I find it hard to not make highlighting on verses that are important or inspiring or enlightening whenever I read a Bible.

Would really appreciate if anyone can point me to where i can get a free Bible for puppy linux that allows readers to make highlighting of verses.

Thanks!


First off Welcome to Puppy.

theWord bible program in Manna allows you to highlight on the verses you want. Sometimes it does depend on the version of wine being used, because e-sword did with an earlier version which I might go back too.

Manna will be hopefully one day soon a fully bibleprogram OS It is just taking a lot longer than I wanted it to.

Cheers
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pchan

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012, 06:59    Post_subject:  

oldyeller

Thanks for the welcome.

I have always been facinated by puppy linux but this is the first time i decided to join as member of this wonderful forum (Thanks to John Murga).

I am nevertheless not an expert at all about the technical side of the operating system. I just know that it works very well on old computers and laptops. In my case, I have an acer one happy2 netbook and a hp nc2400. Lupu528 used to work very well on my hp nc2400 but I cannot get the headphone to work on my acer one happy2 netbook.

Slacko works well on both my acer and my hp. So, i hope that when you decide to move into precise puppy linux, you will still keep slacko mana alive.

THANKS most of all for tips on finding a Bible with highlighting features. Really hard to NOT make highlighting or underlining when reading precious words found in the Bible.

I will check it out.
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Nov 2012, 15:35    Post_subject:  

Hello Everyone,

I decided to do one more update for Manna.001, Since it will be around the end of the year or the beginning of the next before Manna.002 is out.

See first post for download.

There is going to be a lot of changes in the next release. Hopefully it will be to most peoples liking.

Enjoy.
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Nov 2012, 22:49    Post_subject:  Manna OS.001 update3  

Hi oldyeller,

Great work, Very Happy really like your Manna Menu, wallpaper, and your preinstalled Bible programs. Of course, theWord has recently come out with a later version. Everything works well on my hardware except for Bible Analyzer which refuses to resize the fonts.

Will your next update also be based on Slacko? 01micko should be coming out with version 5.4 soon which will be a great base. I understand that you may be using the latest Precise which is also a great base.

If you are going to Precise, please consider releasing two versions since the Linux Xiphos works well on it. (1) A smaller version without Wine that uses only the two Linux Bible Programs, Bibletime and Xiphos. (2) A larger deluxe version that includes the two Linux versions plus the Windows versions that run using Wine.

Thanks for your fine Manna OS.
Jim
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loyal

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2012, 10:23    Post_subject: awesome update
Sub_title: thanks
 

Hello
Glad to see the update. I'll play a bit.

So far two responed it was ok to put what html work I did bibles in to be included in my give away copy of manna. Sorry to hear it will be next year but I understand As I think I told youo I am moving. So Im burried too.

I started to look at lxpup. I like the file manger pcmanfm. Have you thought about using it or xfce instead of rox? Since i live in windows and linux they are more friendly to drives that have windows files (or I dont know what I am doing agian)

Ok I will tell you if thia works in hte lxpup mabe tomorrow. Wife is sick. Slows things down when youre supper daddy. But thats one of Gods intentions in marriage
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Nov 2012, 12:38    Post_subject:  

@ Jim1911

Quote:

Will your next update also be based on Slacko? 01micko should be coming out with version 5.4 soon which will be a great base. I understand that you may be using the latest Precise which is also a great base.

If you are going to Precise, please consider releasing two versions since the Linux Xiphos works well on it. (1) A smaller version without Wine that uses only the two Linux Bible Programs, Bibletime and Xiphos. (2) A larger deluxe version that includes the two Linux versions plus the Windows versions that run using Wine.


@ loyal

Quote:

I started to look at lxpup. I like the file manger pcmanfm. Have you thought about using it or xfce instead of rox? Since i live in windows and linux they are more friendly to drives that have windows files (or I dont know what I am doing agian)


This should address both of your questions.

1) ATM I am not sure what distro I will be using Precise does run cooler on my Dell D430 than Slacko 533 not sure about Slacko 5.4 beta4 yet. I am also thing about using Racy when it gets done, need to test the last beta still.

Trying to keep my cpu cool when working. I also was thinking about Saluki as well but I am not to keen on xfce maybe lxde, But my favorite is fluxbox by far. We all have what we like Wink

2) If I do Precise I will think about doing two of them. Manna is coming about nicely though. I have build a reader for the bible so far and the begging of a basic word-processer as well to take notes in. This will be a bibleprogram OS gear to the study of the Gospels and Revelation with all other books a references.

I will be keeping the bible programs that I have now in Manna, But as I get closer to having the system set for a bible program there will be less other programs for bible study. I will keep them available for download through the Manna-Menu.

User RSH has made a installer for me to download the .exe for them that will work on the click of the install button for each of the programs. It will download wine and then the .exe and install them.

User SFR has helped a lot on the Manna-Reader and on the Notes Editor as well.

I also will be checking how to do searches for words and hopefully sentences as well. This all will not be done right away so what I will be doing is a release every few months Lord willing. It takes time to do all the text files that need to get done. that is way it will take too the end of the year or the beginning of the next.

Loyal, I will be praying for your wife.


Cheers
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