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How to dual boot Puppy with Windows 7?
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DaComboMan

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 08:16    Post subject:  How to dual boot Puppy with Windows 7?  
From what i've read and experienced, it isn't easy to run Puppy side by side within Windows 7.

Would it be safe to assume that using EaseUS Partition Master,
it would be "easy" to create all the partitions Puppy needs?

If so, which partitions are needed ?


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 12:38    Post subject:  
Its easy to use Unetbootin to create a dual boot system with Vista, and as far as I know this works on WIndows 7 too, see

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50152

here is an example going from Win 7 -> Win 7 + Ubuntu
http://www.shayanderson.com/microsoft-windows/how-to-setup-dual-boot-for-ubuntu-desktop-11-04-and-windows-7.htm
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 12:54    Post subject:  
Well, right now, i don't have an extra USB key but i do have Puppy .iso burnt on a CD! Is procedure same as unibootin one?
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 13:11    Post subject:  
Puppy can run Frugal from a Windows partition, or Frugal /Full on a linux partition.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/FrugalOrFullInstallation

If you are installing frugally to the Wins partition, copy the Puppy cd's contents into a directory on the harddrive, as per

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50152
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To change Puppy boot options:
Make a C:\Puppy directory
Copy vmlinuz, initrd.gz, *.sfs to that directory.
Edit c:\unetbtin\menu.lst to look like


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{Note, links/symlinks only work on Linux partitions (or on a Linux partition 'filesystem-in-file', for example .sfs .2fs .3fs - which Puppy uses in frugal mode) }
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 13:31    Post subject:  
Various ways to install puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302

Here is a Puppy specific Google search:
http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

Basics of installing program packages
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59597
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 15:54    Post subject:  
I appreciate your input folks and i'm trying hard to get that initial FULL INSTALL (don't like booting from CD or USB) but working with PUI (which is supposed to guide you through the process ha!) i come across a request:

"Please find latest Puppy files vmlinuz, init.gz and puppy_slackko etc. then highlight any one of them and click okay".

Where are those vmlinuz, init.gz and puppy_slacko files is beyond me! Laughing

There's a gazillion files to choose from. So as you see, i'm lost in virtual space. Sad

UPDATE: i forgot to make the boot option when partitioning.
Did a frugal install and so far so good! yay!

Boy! Is Puppy ever fast and light!!! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 18:04    Post subject:  
great stuff, presumably you found the missing files on the cd? or extracting from an ISO image? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 19:16    Post subject:  
darkcity wrote:
great stuff, presumably you found the missing files on the cd? or extracting from an ISO image? Twisted Evil


Actually, after ticking off that "boot" part of the partition i was no longer required to find any files.

Basically followed this tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxVOH3mo3Gw&feature=related

Fortunately for me, i had EasyBCD already working in Windows and had done a backup of the MBR, otherwise, i'm not sure i could have dual booted even with a frugal install.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012, 15:20    Post subject:  
@DaComboMan:

I wouldn't advice doing full install until you have a REALLY good reason.

I've been using full install for a while, and I'm going to change to frugal.
There are a lot more stuff as SFSs than in PETs, and full install doesn't "eat" SFSs. Only PETs.

I'm figuring out which variant of puppy I should use (old HW), and plan to boot without CD or USB-stick.

With Vista/Ubuntu dual boot and Vista/Mint dual boot (also used Vista/Debian dual boot) I installed Grub in the beginning of the Linux partition and booted it with Windows boot. I set that up using EasyBCD - free SW from Neosmart.

http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

Easy as 3.141592...
Windows 7 has a boot editor included.

That's because if there are disk problems, Windows repair tools don't understand Grub, and Windows disks get bad much more easier than Linux's.

Keep me informed here, and I'll keep you informed.
Deal?
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012, 16:26    Post subject:  
Quote:
There are a lot more stuff as SFSs than in PETs, and full install doesn't "eat" SFSs. Only PETs.


Even a Full Puppy can scoff Puppy Extra Treats as well as Super Filing Snacks

How to Add SFS to Full Install Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012, 16:40    Post subject:  
Ah, nice.
I just remember that the directory structures were different.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 08:06    Post subject:  
@DaComboMan: you might be interested...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?mode=editpost&p=658044

@darkcity:
I guess a non-experienced person is probably better off with frugal than with full install. At least, I think, I am.

Especially with old(ish) HW it's nice that you can run from RAMdisk and still boot with a boot manager without CD or USB-stick.

I still run a full install (for now), but I plan to go frugal.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:11    Post subject:  
looks you copied the above URL in edit mode, maybe this is the link

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=658044
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 13:04    Post subject:  
darkcity wrote:
looks you copied the above URL in edit mode, maybe this is the link

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=658044


Oops!

Thanks, darkcity.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 08:52    Post subject:  
A simple way to make dual boot is to install Grub in the beginning of a partition reserved for Puppy use. Then add Grub in the windows boot using either

BCDEdit, that comes with Windows 7:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2676-bcdedit-how-use.html

or a free graphical tool EasyBCD (also works vith Vista):
http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/11/12/how-to-manage-the-windows-7-boot-menu/

I remember that with EasyBCD you just tell the partition if the new system has BCD-based boot (like Grub2). I think Puppy uses legacy Grub?
Instead of the Grub you can use Grub4Dos (I guess it's recommended).
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