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The beginning of Arabic translation
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BDX
 Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
Hi, As i have been posting replies to an Arabic language writing support, i have been told to consider on translating an Puppy. So i have decided to start on it and wary will be my experiment (because my PC is old, and also good for other peoples). But, i have to make sure things will work smooth. OK. This is my questions (i hope they are in the right place): -Will the right to left reading is fully supported in menu, puppy apps (PUI, PPM, Personalize, etc.....) and error messages? - Is most of the apps in puppy are translated by MoManger? -Will ROX-Filer is under the MoManger? I guess that all. I want to make an Langpack, so no need to remaster. but if i want to make a new puppy, is replacing the window manger easy (no need to put commands, a LONG commands)? M.H. _________________ Puppy linux fact:Life is experiments......Download and try,Don't search and cry. |
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
I am glad that you are starting this 
We will have to find out. No one else has been testing this before. The first thing you have to do is install a texteditor which can handle right to left (geany cannot). I suggest yudit: Klick on http://yudit.org/download/binary/yudit-2.9.2-1.i386.rpm and open with pupzip (default) then expand it to / In console start it by typing
I have done it in racy, so it should work in wary too. Next you will have to make yudit your defaulteditor because momanager will open the translation file in defaulteditor. the most import scripts to start with are (just my opinion): - quicksetup - shutdownconfig but we can also start with something smaller ? ...and
should return ar_YE.UTF-8
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
Let me give a post of its own to the second question:
Simple answer is: Yes So I will list here what is not managed by momanager Some text files (put them into langpack-template): ~/my-applications/bin/README-my-applications-bin.txt ~/my-applications/lib/README-my-applications-lib.txt ~/my-documents/clipart/README-clipart.txt ~/my-documents/tmp/README-tmp.txt ~/Choices/ROX-Filer/README.txt ~/spot/README.txt ~/spot/.didiwiki/WikiHelp ~/spot/.didiwiki/WikiHome ~/Startup/README.txt /etc/init.d/README.txt Translations that are available from the sources Let us try example 1: osmo downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/osmo-pim/files/latest/download there is no ar 
We take osmo.pot (t means template) and put it in /usr/share/doc/nls/osmo/ Now we hope that momanager will manage this 
I attach the osmo.pot for your convenience example 2: notecase downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/notecase/files/notecase/1.9.8/notecase-1.9.8_src.tar.gz and sweet joy contains an ar translation
I will attach notecase_ar.po.gz (.gz is just for uploading) download and save as notecase.po
... and you can start notecase in Arabic language. momanager can now build your first language pack (use ar, not ar_YE) .... to be continued later --- edited 2012-10-15 there was a bug
I have fixed it please reload notecase_ar.gz
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
Thanks 
I will start downloading the pup, sure it will take a while for my speed. I will keep you inform with anything happens (hope not). _________________ Puppy linux fact:Life is experiments......Download and try,Don't search and cry. |
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
OK, complicated things bring more experience... At first i had used geany for translate.....i have translated the shutdown first line "is now shutting down...". I have save it and exit, then shutdown puppy. I haven't see anything! So i have entered the MoManger again and edit the same script but after starting the editor this massage came (on top):
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
After that i have tried your Yudit but with no use, the Arabic chars are viewed as square box with numbers in it. And finally i have installed Katoob text editor, it is the same as Geany but also that massage show up 
So i have leave the scripts and move to menus. Menus have been translated in the Geany editor, but in the menu it came like this (red rectangular):
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
So i assume that will be an JWM problem. Because as i can see, Rox-Filer show Arabic fine but in the header of the window it came like this (red rectangular):
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
That's all that i did till this minute, but I'll ask you one more question. Where do i translate??? Which lines? the msgid or the msgstr? Thanks in advance. M.H.
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bignono1
 Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: New ME |
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=106598#106598http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64178 |
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bignono1
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: New ME |
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64178 |
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
Never make changes in msgid msgstr is where you put your translation in. And in the line starting Content-Type there change ASCII to UTF-8 please Please post the output of echo $LANG I want to see if it is containing Utf-8. ------------------------------------------------------- OK I am in wary5.3 now devx_wary_5.3.sfs loaded LANG=ar_YE.UTF-8 .. and I will try to reproduce what you have done so far katoob_0.3.8-1_i386.tar..gz open with pupzip select all extract to /tmp cd /tmp/katoob-0.3.8 ./configure make make install katoob running now making katoob defaulttexteditor
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
Now starting momanager and selecting first entry at top of right side: rc.shutdown katoob is opening rc.shutdown.po Edited first message in rc.shutdown (copied from translate.g**gle) save and close editor pressing OK or was it ar? at reboot I have seen this message on console 
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
I have found an answer to your third question in post 1 now
ROX-Filer can be translated using MoManager Look into bottom of right side MoManager: Puppy files ----- edit I have extracted Arabic from shinobar's langpack_all (thank you, shinobar) and momanager has made first langpack from this and what we have done until now.
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 2427 Location: Burghaslach, Germany somewhere also known as "Hosla" |
Thank you, bignono1
using momanager (menu-categories) should result in a the lines name=Internet name[ar]=whatever you type in here and name[ar] will be used for Arabic Did you try?
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BDX
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Yemen,Aden |
Hi again,
That's the first thing i tried. For the menu categories and entries, they still the same. No matter what i did in anywhere. But like i said, i'm 100% sure that it's a JWM problem. And here the prove:
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