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The journey to Archpup..
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ajbibb

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012, 15:06    Post subject:  

No static release.

Following is my understanding - I've not done an initial Arch install in over a year and things have changed quite a bit since I last did. Every month they publish an ISO, but this is really just enough to boot and get on the Internet. At that point you use Pacman to upgrade the packages on the ISO and download what you want. The installer scripts have been removed (no one to support them) so print out the beginners guide and the official install guide and use them to walk you through the install process. A bunch of people seem to find this easier than using the old install scripts - but again, I've no personal experience with it.

Back to your project of ArchPup. Arch is going over to systemd booting, probably doesn't make any difference with user packages, but it might make a difference if you are trying to build in their system packages to your Puppy.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012, 16:07    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
...and cost me a wife...

Damn, can I relate to you Very Happy
Keep at it. If you can create an Arch-Pup, you'll probably end up with the best package-manager puppy has to offer.
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puppyluvr


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct 2012, 08:42    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Taking a break to clear the head, before I rewoof it again..
I was hoping to fix the previous woof from the cli, but its missing too much..
However, the ppm worked, as did bash. So....close..
Am D/L Arch today to have a look..
Will get back.... Very Happy

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dogbert0360

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Nov 2012, 00:50    Post subject:  

We text-ed earlier and I just want to add my encouragement again and know that you will bring "Archie" pup alive and barking. Indeed the work and wait will be well rewarded.

Keep fighting!!!
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Nov 2012, 18:55    Post subject:  

Im rooting for you Puppyluvr!
Keep trying. If you make it work you'll go down in history. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 20:52    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
I`m still here...
Still trying..
Still pulling my hair out.. LOL

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 15:39    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
See here..
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=667022#667022

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013, 05:03    Post subject:  

Woof is being fixed for Arch Linux, see my blog post:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00166

Give me a bit more time, hopefully I can actually get it to boot to the X desktop.

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stifiling

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 23:27    Post subject: simargl (ArchPup)  

BarryK wrote:
Woof is being fixed for Arch Linux, see my blog post:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00166

Give me a bit more time, hopefully I can actually get it to boot to the X desktop.



any specific reason why simargl and ArchPup is being treated like a shadow or an optical illusion?

you kind of have to put forth effort, to skip over the 10 ArchPup threads, and dig up this one. As if the mind set was, "Let me see which other thread I can find, besides these ArchPup ones, to leave this Arch Linux Woof post in."

Seeing Arch Linux working in woof would be a very welcoming addition. I see you guys (a few names I was surprised not to see in the ArchPup thread months ago) kind of struggling over here. Simargl's already got it all figured out. Asking for his help seems ideal...no??
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Mar 2013, 21:08    Post subject: Re: simargl (ArchPup)  

stifiling wrote:
any specific reason why simargl and ArchPup is being treated like a shadow or an optical illusion?

Like Barry said in his blog post, Arch packages in Woof was a thing well before simargl came along. (Not to minimize simargl's accomplishment.)

Perhaps simargl could contact Barry and offer assistance; it doesn't have to be the other way around.

Not that it's any of our concern. Barry can do whatever he likes; after all, Barry is Puppy Linux.
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stifiling

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:12    Post subject: Re: simargl (ArchPup)  

Announcer wrote:
Like Barry said in his blog post, Arch packages in Woof was a thing well before simargl came along.


He also said it was 'broken' and then 'broke' some more. Yea, I seen that Arch Linux was swallowed by Woof years ago....just never seen it spit back out. Have you? Can you post the link..to the 'working' Arch Linux Puppy Derivative...before 'ArchPup'? Saying Arch Linux existed in Woof....is the same as calling the OP of this thread....an idiot.

Announcer wrote:
Perhaps simargl could contact Barry and offer assistance; it doesn't have to be the other way around.


I'm thinking maybe he would have...if his 10 threads weren't, dodged/skipped/deliberately ignored, 'and not by mistake, on purpose'......and this old thread 'dug up' and 'necrobumped' to leave an Arch/Puppy Linux related post in.

Announcer wrote:
Not that it's any of our concern. Barry can do whatever he likes; after all, Barry is Puppy Linux.


That's true. Barry is Puppy Linux. But simargl is the first person to make 'Puppy Linux & Arch Linux' work correctly together. So Simargl is Arch Puppy Linux. You've got to put the credit where the credit goes.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:50    Post subject:  

I don't see simargl on here bitching. Just you.

Maybe they're talking behind the scenes, who knows?
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stifiling

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:55    Post subject:  

Announcer wrote:
I don't see simargl on here bitching. Just you.


that's beside the point....and also goes both ways.

Announcer wrote:
Maybe they're talking behind the scenes, who knows?


Well maybe Barry did acknowledge Archpup...and isn't deliberately ignoring it. Time will reveal...and then 'we'll know'.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 06:14    Post subject:  

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 08:07    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Be aware that some of the templates (most) are a bit ubuntu-centric. I have had to hack a few for slacko so that critical stuff doesn't get thrown out. You can avoid using the templates by renaming the "package" in the second field of the PKGS_SPECS_TABLE variable. Some likely culprits can be binutils, coreutils and util-linux.


Hopefully this situation has improved with the latest Woof, see recent blog post:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00178

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