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jakfish

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 05:49    Post subject:  

Stella looks good, and what a good, thorough review Colonel Panic cites. However, the boot time is a little too long for my taste. The leanness of Lubuntu makes things very zippy.

Though Stella has far better stock apps.

I've thinned Lubuntu even more, going with Midori 0.4.3 (0.4.7 got rid of its MenuBar for some reason) in place of Chromium.

Chromium allows so few visual adjustments to its GUI, it's ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 06:52    Post subject:  

Not Linux but kind of cool to understand what will become of it?

Quote:
Plasma Active 3

http://plasma-active.org/
http://kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/
Quote:

About Plasma Active

Plasma Active is openly developed Free software.
Its reference implementation builds on the Mer operating system
and runs on a number of devices, including popular x86-based
tablet computers and ARM-based hardware such as the Archos G9 series.


Maybe it is something I fail to get so I do welcome a big laugh LOL
if it is not what it did seem to my naive reading. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 07:44    Post subject:  

nooby, that's a great find. I've never heard of plasma active before. Wonder if it works with a physical keyboard, and does it have a working word processor?

I couldn't tell, though it does seem to have KDE PIMs, and KDE has a word processor, right?

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 08:48    Post subject:  

Hehe I have no idea what it is . I am not that bright.
One guy somewhere on internet told that it had borrowed
from BSE and IOS and Android? but that it where independent
of these. Maybe he wanted to create a flame war and just teased?

I trust the links should have all info needed. Reading wikipedia
I got the impression it is just another overlay but that is not how
they present it is it. So I would love that someone really getting it
would explain if it is a new thing or not?

Haha I am a pessimist. There only exist one OS and that is Unix
and variations of Unix? Just teasing.

edit When I where much younger I had a CP/M computer
but the commands did look almost as twin to DrDOS or MsDOS

where these really that much different from Unix?

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 09:38    Post subject:  

Distrowatch list a few new ones core17 one of them.
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20121015#waiting
https://sites.google.com/site/corenlightenment/

is that not an odd url? sites.google.com?

Quote:

Live CD/USB linux bootable operating system, with persistency.
A distro which is a remaster. (remix, Spin-off) of Tiny Core Linux,
featuring Enlightenment (DR17) desktop environment.


Thread about it on Tiny Core forum since august
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13758.0.html

I have not looked there since a long long time
so I had no idea it even existed.
Those who develop TinyCore
are usually very cautious about any spin off
and have been very critical to such attempts
but wow august that is a long time and
his thread is still there so that guy must have
done something that they accept as okay to them?

So have any of you done a frugal install on NTFS
using core 17 or maybe it does only work on ext3?


Edit. I where wrong. He got in trouble with the TinyCore forum rules too.

Quote:
Topic locked due to section forum rule.


« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2012, 01:54:09 AM »

So not sure what that means. Typical of TC forum to not explain
what it means.

Edit 2

Got it to boot on NTFS using the ntfs-3gz.gz something
But I find the E17 Enlighten to be slow on my Netbook
compared with the original Core-plus I write from Core Plus now
but don't understand much of it. I used maybe a crazy way to boot
I give details later have to reboot first. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 09:41    Post subject:  

Turing OS ? http://turingos.org/

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Turing Linux is an operating system (OS) comprising a minimal base just sufficient to support VirtualBox (VB), providing quick access to other OSs. This is useful for teaching or learning GNU/Linux and for testing or exploring other OSs, without having to re-boot to switch between them. Multiple OSs can be run at the same time. It has 4 layers, ranging from the CLI-only core (and no VB), to core + GUI, to core + GUI + VB, to the enhanced layer which includes a few tools to make the distro usable for a few other basic common tasks (such as web browsing). Any of these layers could be used as a starting point for a new distro. Each layer also contains Remastersys which can be used to generate an ISO file of the current system.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Oct 2012, 00:04    Post subject:  

Just buggfixing

Code:
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: bikertest Kernel: 3.6.0-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.7.2)
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.2 Distro: antiX-base-maintenance-amd64 Edelweißpiraten 06 October 2012
Machine:   System: LENOVO product: 6075BHU version: ThinkCentre M57
           Mobo: LENOVO model: LENOVO Bios: LENOVO version: 2RKT41AUS date: 03/20/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2160 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 7182.24
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1200.00 MHz 2: 1200.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.12.3.902 drivers: vesa,intel (unloaded: fbdev) Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card-1: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI driver: rt61pci ver: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 11:0c.0
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e ver: 2.0.0-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST380815AS size: 80.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 11G used: 2.8G (28%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 3.27GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 86 Uptime: 1:55 Memory: 411.9/1982.1MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.19


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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Oct 2012, 15:46    Post subject: Technology is advancing. OSes are too.  

Is it just me or has the community noticed the PCs that are being used by community members. They are using advance/current platforms which have much RAM and enormous CPU/MB capabilities.

This community may need to splinter into 2 groups: Those who have processors since 2006 with RAM all the way to 64GB, and, those who have pre-2006 PCs.

The distro developers must also continue to announce which class of PCs they are building and intend to support with their distros. The world of PCs have become much too broad.

And, lastly, even though I have publish little about it, KVM ability in CPUs have been around commonly since 2006. Maybe we'll need to splinter that off into "Virtual Puppy OS processing with KVM" and "Virtual OS processing without the assist feature".

We are approaching a time when we should begin to anticipate the coming wave of Touch implemented OSes that is changing what we do (whether we like it or not, change is ALWAYS met with resistance.....ALWAYS!!!)

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Oct 2012, 16:37    Post subject:  

Yes I get that I should be able to google KVM
but felt unsure about it. Maybe you can edit
your post to include some explanation?

Netbooks are rather new but they are often
only 1GB at most and cheaper CPU that is
one kernel instead of 2 or 4 and most likely
not KVM eitehr whatever that is.

But they are very new I bought my three 2009 and 2010?
and the oldest maybe 2008?

so will 2006 really help?

and another thing. Each time somebody tell Developers
to do something then we lose then and they almost never get back
so I would prefer that one always praise and cheer them and never
ever tell them what they should do. We can not afford to lose them
that carelessly.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Oct 2012, 02:43    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Manjaro Linux....... based on Arch and using k-3.4.9-1.
http://blog.manjaro.org/


I'm giving that one a try now as I've been looking for a good Arch-based distro for a whole now (ArchBang wouldn't install on my machine for some reason).

It's fast and works well but for me the default theme is way too dark and it's difficult to lighten it (I couldn't find a way to change the top button bar, even though everything else could be altered).

A number of distros seem to be almost black by default now, including ArchBang and CrunchBang; maybe it's a fashion or something but for me it's not a good one as it looks bleak and it's damn difficult to see what you're doing on an old monitor..

@Jakfish; I agree about Chromium. I think its designers sacrificed everything else (including configurability) for speed.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct 2012, 13:04    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
nooby wrote:
Thanks, Surprise that that version of Bloathy produce ä and ö
on an English keyboard?


Yes, oops! It must have selected the wrong keyboard when it loaded. Sorry to anyone who struggled to read my post. It's a good distro anyway even if I can't use it at home at the moment.

I'm testing out Solus and Saline at the moment, two distros based on Debian. Saline uses XFCE as its desktop manager whereas Solus uses Gnome 2 instead. I like the look of Saline a bit better (lovely wallpaper of a school of dolphins swimming underwater, for a start), but Solus comes with Firefox as standard whereas I couldn't find a way to install Firefox from the live disk, so Solus was the one I installed.

It's my first day of using it but already it looks very impressive.


A quick update here; I'm now testing Saline (1.7). It's one of the best looking distros I've used but unfortunately it only uses "free" aps (i.e. not firefox, opera etc.) and Iceweasel crashes on youtube sometimes so I installed Iceape instead. You have to install flash too (I used flashplugin-nonfree).

Otherwise it's working fine so far. I think Swift 2, based on Mint Debian, is less trouble though not as visually attractive (it doesn't really aim to be).

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct 2012, 16:44    Post subject:  

DistroWatch announce Slax 7.0

they write
Tomáš Matějíček has announced the availability of a public preview release of Slax 7.0, a Slackware-based live CD with KDE 4 in under 180 MB: "So here it is. A small lightweight KDE, recompiled with as few dependencies as possible. I've partially completed my battle with the KDE desktop environment. There is a lot of work waiting in the queue, since there are no applications yet except Konsole; however, it is ready for wider public testing.

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07512

now suppose you already have Porteus working in frugal install?

Would this code for grub4dos? work for Slax too frugal install
on NTFS?

title Porteus
kernel (hd0,1)/porteusboot/vmlinuz from_dir=porteus/ rw toroot xfce ramsize=60% root=/dev/ram0 fsck changes=/mnt/sda2/porteus12rc.dat copy2ram nocd noeject noswap
initrd (hd0,1)/porteusboot/initrd.xz
boot

One would need to create Dir with slax instead but I mean is it same pattern
or does Slax have their own peculiar code?

Porteus is a modern Slax as I get it.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct 2012, 02:51    Post subject:  

Trying out Zenlive 7.2....... seems pretty good so far.Another Slackware based distro with XFCE 4.10.

http://www.zenwalk.org/
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct 2012, 01:32    Post subject:  

Just finished an installation of Vector 7.0 Gold.Seems pretty quick. Sharing the hard drive with Xubuntu 12.04.1, Zenwalk 7.0 and a bunch of Pup's. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct 2012, 15:24    Post subject:  

James C,..
VectorLinux has always been my all-time favorite for a "bigger" distro than Puppy (when I need a bigger distro than Puppy, that is...which isn't too often). However,....my VectorLinux 7 standard install CD seems to have gotten corrupted somehow. It no longer will install <alas> Crying or Very sad

I have just broke down and installed Slackware 14,....then used a LOT of the apps off of the VectorLinux CD to "flesh out" Slackware. Stuff like Opera,...Flash,...Win32 codecs,...and the Wine package, (from the Salix repositories). Seems to work fine.

Plus,...Doing a full install of Slackware,..with KDE and the KDEgames (then using just the smaller XFCE desktop)...gives me the games for my grandson,....but a smaller DE for me. But I actually prefer VectorLinix over Slackware.
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