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hendrikus

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 01:02    Post subject:  Puppy Professional just for business  

I see huge opportunities for Puppy because one simple thing.... IT'S FAST Laughing , VERY FAST. Laughing I LOVE IT FROM THE FIRST DAY I WORKED WITH IT. The same reason I like my PDA with Microsoft, great, it always works, has everything I need and is fast.

For company's we only need OpenOffice, PDF, File Explorer and Opera or FireFox and a multimediaplayer. Preferable with a WindowsXP lookalike userinterface. Please no dogs on the screen.... Embarassed

I Use Puppy but the StartMenu is filled with playing stuff for Linux freaks Twisted Evil . Of course I get the answer 'just remove it' and add the software you need.

But I'm a consultant for business management systems and not a programmer. I saw the puppyoffice2.02, it's great but still too technical.

Is there nobody who created an PuppyProfessional ISO for company use? A WindowsXP / MicrosoftOffice killer. Razz
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Marco_Inge

Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 03:43    Post subject:  

I pretty new in using Linux and Puppy has been the first one I really loved due to its speed and easy-going approach.

I agree with Hendrikus, PuppyOffice 2.03 could be a great distro for business, but it should have a simpler menu (would it be possible to have a simple script in order to switch between a simple menu and a complete one?) and a less crowded desktop with a professional looking background to really appeal to first time users coming from windows. Since in my work I do a good share of reports editing with a lot of picture I would suggest Scribus and Gimp to be included in the basic applications, but I understand that many people could not need them.

Marco
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gliezl


Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 322
Location: Manila

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 04:42    Post subject:  

hendrikus,
do you mean like this? see screenshot
I am still working on it. I dont have time to remaster. Sad

Having problems with remastering it to CD.

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raffy

Joined: 25 May 2005
Posts: 4779
Location: Manila

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 09:25    Post subject: Yes  

Yes, Liz does magic on the looks and booting of Puppy. Maybe Hendrikus can get a tutorial from her while in Manila. Very Happy

Hendrikus, just remove the icons that you don't want from the desktop and add your own background. For a blue/XP theme, just try to set it in JWM settings, then restart X.

You can drop by Puppy IRC Fridays 6-8 AM and let's discuss more. Or visit there anytime you're free and ask.

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EarlSmith

Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 197
Location: Chelsea, Alabama, USA

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 14:20    Post subject:  

I have used Puppy for certain things in my business, but always need windows for Quickbooks. Now that 2.03ce is out, everything but Quickbooks and OO Base is there. These two programs are the only ones holding me back from using Puppy full time.
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raffy

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Location: Manila

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 18:38    Post subject: GnuCash  

Could GnuCash be used in Puppy? I see that there is a way of using quickbooks data for GnuCash: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/10/1651249&from=rss
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jus407

Joined: 26 Jun 2006
Posts: 177
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 20:33    Post subject:  

nice look and feel but you MUST make a startup and shutdown animation if you want i can play around and try making something i use to play with flash and the likes and could possibly make something if i get the right pics and stuff, and also try making the start menu more XP like with a programs menu instead of multimedia, control panel, word processing, internet, etc, etc i might look into making something like that for ya but no garantees ive been swamped with stuff lately and havent done anything puppy related, too tired and stuff. just wanting to put in my 1 cent (2 before taxes).
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hendrikus

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 20:48    Post subject:  

EarlSmith wrote:
I have used Puppy for certain things in my business, but always need windows for Quickbooks. Now that 2.03ce is out, everything but Quickbooks and OO Base is there. These two programs are the only ones holding me back from using Puppy full time.


I discovered the same with some applications like MYOB, but I advice to the companies to run company critical applications central with a high level of security. Have a look to OfBiz OpenTaps, or webERP, I know the migration to an new accounting program is difficult, but when you have several discipines in your company it's woth to think about.

For one company I installed SugerCRM, they love it, specialy the Document Management because it's stable and fast.
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EarlSmith

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Location: Chelsea, Alabama, USA

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 21:14    Post subject:  

I checked out Gnucash at their web site. This statement made me wonder if Puppy could run it.

Quote:
GnuCash 2.0 can be downloaded from sourceforge.net. It is available as source code.

To install GnuCash, users will need Gnome 2, guile, slib and g-wrap.


Anyone know if these are in Puppy?
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EarlSmith

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Location: Chelsea, Alabama, USA

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 21:15    Post subject:  

I checked out Gnucash at their web site. This statement made me wonder if Puppy could run it.

Quote:
GnuCash 2.0 can be downloaded from sourceforge.net. It is available as source code.

To install GnuCash, users will need Gnome 2, guile, slib and g-wrap.


Anyone know if these are in Puppy?
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EarlSmith

Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 197
Location: Chelsea, Alabama, USA

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 21:17    Post subject:  

I checked out Gnucash at their web site. This statement made me wonder if Puppy could run it.

Quote:
GnuCash 2.0 can be downloaded from sourceforge.net. It is available as source code.

To install GnuCash, users will need Gnome 2, guile, slib and g-wrap.


Anyone know if these are in Puppy?
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hendrikus

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 21:50    Post subject:  

gliezl wrote:
hendrikus,
do you mean like this? see screenshot
I am still working on it. I dont have time to remaster. Sad

Having problems with remastering it to CD.


Hi Gliez,

It seems to me a very good start, I think it's ok to use the Windows98 look, XPlook is even better, I saw it as isewm theme but I don't know if isewm is as stable as JWM. In the startmenu I prefer to see the following:
--OpenOffice--
Write
Calc
Draw
Impress
Math
Base
Printer
Browser (Opera, mail, edit)
-- MultiMedia --
RealPlayer (with plugins for MP3)
Gimp
Games (group) (you can't get them happy without)
-- FileManagement --
File Explorer
Network (LinNeighberhood) + (NetworkWizard) + (DialUp)
-- Control --
Control Panel (All settings for puppy)
Run
Search
Help

I think you did a great job allready, thanks...

Hendrikus
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GuestToo
Puppy Master

Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 4078

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 22:47    Post subject:  

i think Icewm is very stable and reliable, and works well with Rox and with Puppy (and Gxine)

the newest version seems to have a new feature (i have not noticed it before anyway) ... when you click on a text file or an html file or something that opens in a new tab in another application, the button for that application starts flashing ... if the application is on another desktop, the button appears on your working desktop, so you can just click it to switch to the other application

Icewm is larger than Jwm:

Uncompressed:

Icewm: 529k
Jwm: 124k

Compressed with UPX:

Icewm: 178k
Jwm: 55k

i usually use just the Icewm executable, i do not run the icewmbg background setter, or icewtray or icedock etc etc
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hendrikus

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 23:28    Post subject:  

GuestToo wrote:
i think Icewm is very stable and reliable, and works well with Rox and with Puppy (and Gxine)

the newest version seems to have a new feature (i have not noticed it before anyway) ... when you click on a text file or an html file or something that opens in a new tab in another application, the button for that application starts flashing ... if the application is on another desktop, the button appears on your working desktop, so you can just click it to switch to the other application

Icewm is larger than Jwm:

Uncompressed:

Icewm: 529k
Jwm: 124k

Compressed with UPX:

Icewm: 178k
Jwm: 55k

i usually use just the Icewm executable, i do not run the icewmbg background setter, or icewtray or icedock etc etc


Hi,

Is it posible to uninstall JWM and other windowmanager software and just use only IceWM within Puppy?

Also all that network stuff and applications I don't use I would like to uninstall. So I have still enough memory to use OpenOffice on a 128Mb system.

Hendrikus
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GuestToo
Puppy Master

Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 4078

PostPosted: Tue 29 Aug 2006, 23:58    Post subject:  

yes, you can just not use Jwm

you can delete the jwm file, but if you are running from the cd (or an option 1 frugal install) it will still be there, just hidden ... you can remaster Puppy and leave jwm out

with an option 2 full install, you will actually save the space, but it won't be very much ... Jwm is not a large application

or you can get a version of Puppy that uses Icewm as it's default window manager

Jwm is very much smaller than Open Office, so it probably is not very important if Jwm is there or not ... it really is not taking much space ... only about 50k when compressed

the Seamonkey web browser takes a lot of space ... but there are other programs that might depend on some of Seamonkey's library files

you might be better to get a smaller version of Puppy and add only the applications that you want
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