Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2

[oldyeller]

retroprecise-5.4 NON PAE

Can anyone download from the puppy-precise repo?

All I get is the option from a folder.

I just downloaded and created live cd. Posting from it now.

I used this link
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4-retro/

Kinda slow, but it works

Hi majorfoo,

I guess I should clarify a bit more. what I am talking about is the puppy-precies in the ppm can not download any pets, no other option but folder.

[James C]

retroprecise-5.4 NON PAE

Can anyone download from the puppy-precise repo?

All I get is the option from a folder.

No problem downloading/installing packages from the puppy-precise repo. Except for the fact that it's basically empty.

There's a few packages in "setup","multimedia","graphics" and "internet".

[James C]

Retro-Precise 5.4 on my trusty Athlon XP......... sound,internet and display all good on initial boot.No problems have really appeared yet.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: RetroPrecise Puppy, version 5.4

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
123 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.446 FPS
146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.127 FPS
137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.329 FPS
146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.092 FPS
146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.176 FPS
148 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.475 FPS
137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.255 FPS

Actually using the "nv" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (209MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 26 Oct 2012 08:23:10 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.2.32 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Oct 24 10:24:58 GMT-8 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

[slenkar]

is this using a different version of xorg or intel drivers than slacko 5.3.3?

Precise works very well with my intel graphics card but slacko didnt

[tallboy]

I am not clever enough to be contributing to the development of puppy, but I hope it does not exclude me from having some comments/complaints about Precise Puppy 5.4, after running it live.

• One of the most frequent questions in the forum is why the modem doesn't connect. I have a G3 ZTE MF636 USB modem, of the type that looks like a memory stick, and also contains memory, and it is a couple of years old by now. It does not connect.
  Why is it, that almost every new puppy have problems with registering and/or connecting this type of modems, neither as modems nor memory? Don't you developers read and register any of the forum posts about the problems regarding connecting these modems, and respond to them? Anyway, PP 5.4 does not find my modem, and does not find it as memory either. It was attached after bootup. In some puppy versions, the modem first registers as a disk drive, and has to be mounted/unmounted before registering as a memory stick/modem, but that did not happen here, either.
• What is more serious, after failing to find the modem, it later also failed to find an ordinary memory stick, or my external 160 Gb USB harddisk. Running a manual mount did not help.
• I agree with some earlier posts in this thread regarding appearance: I think the default theme and wallpaper are just plain ugly, fuzzy kindergarten looks that also hurt the eyes with it's brightness. I do not think it will win any new users from the other camps. I also think that some of the other alternatives supplied, are both ugly and outdated by now.
  After switching theme and icon set (Blue-Moon), not all icons changed; the folder icons in / remained the same.
• I could not find any possible way to switch between 12 and 24 hour clocktype.
• I know that I could have dived into the puppy's innards to try to correct some of these issues, but that should really not be necessary after so many puppy generations, especially if this puppy is intended for new puppy users. The PP 5.4 has a lot of news 'under the hood', but my impression is that it feels a bit unfinished, while it at the same time feels like a real old puppy, and that is not old as in 'good old'...
• I know there has been done an absolutely fabulous effort in creating the 'woof' build system, it really deserves standing ovations. I am not familiar with 'woof' in detail, but my feeling is that perhaps there should be a 'bark' system for testing of the finished application builds, along similar lines as 'woof'?

There are most likely other issues too, and most certainly a lot of potentially positive experiences to be had, but after yet again being unable to make an internet connection - which really, really pissed me off this time, I just cut the trial short.
It may also have colored my first impression of Precise a little...

tallboy

[cthisbear]

rerwin:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=75

" For now, please try the attached packages without Frisbee,
to see if there is any wireless improvement or impact "

:::::::::::::;

I used both of the Pets

firmware_linux_module_b43-20121024.pet

broadcom_sta-5.100.82.112-k3.2.29.pet

and I also installed Frisbee by peebee ,

and just restarted X-Server

instead of rebooting with a saved file

and my encrypted network shows up in Frisbee

and I am posting via Wireless on the Dell.

""""

I should also report that the Lan works as well
on a pristine first boot....before any pet fixes.

Ethernet controller:

NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)

Great work....Chris

[cthisbear]

One thing I hate.

Trying to cut and paste in Precise.

Like dealing with the invisible man....shocking.

The desktop wallpaper is OK in itself.
I loved Billtoo's??? little pic....aka pumpkins.

Chris.

[rameshiyer]

So far I have not faced any problem. Also like to inform you all that my Huawei 3G Modem working in both inbuilt connection manager as well as through Hauwei Mobile Partner Software (3rd party software). I am usually using 2G sim in 3Gmodem due to economical reasons. In mobile partner, the connection is quick and stable. More SPEED. I am now able to send SMS, USSD, etc.

[watchdog]

[*] One of the most frequent questions in the forum is why the modem doesn't connect. I have a G3 ZTE MF636 USB modem, of the type that looks like a memory stick, and also contains memory, and it is a couple of years old by now. It does not connect.

Have you tried first installing:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... 2.4-up.pet

and

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... 120815.pet

?

[Sky Aisling]

Thank you Barry, for another swell Puppy!

So far, I've tried Precise-Puppy 5.4 on three machines and haven't been able to break the system.*
I've had no black-out X issues on bootup.
Network Wizard is connecting on all three machines.
Precise is flying on all of them. (well, the 13 year old Presario is a bit slow).
I am delighted to see Shinobar's SFS-Load on-the-fly program listed in the menu/setup.

However, try as I might, I cannot find the setting for the panel clock to set to 12 hour time.
Where is the panel setting for the 12 hour clock?
Where is the panel setting to change the icons of the panel?

Also, where is the 'home' button on Seamonkey-2.13.1 tool bar?

Suggestion: please include *Pfind* or similar application icon on the desktop. Thank you.

Kudos Barry! Looks like you've done it again.

*Machines running Precise-Puppy 5.4 from Live-CD:

Zareason Big Lap (Asus)
3 gigs RAM
Intel Celeron M CPU 410@1.46GHz

Dell Inspiron 5100
1 gig RAM
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.40GHz

Compaq Presario 1200US
128 mg RAM
Intel Coppermine

[emil]

Don't know if this is already reported:

There are "broken" links in the html help (Help Icon).
They point on the web location instead of the local file system, so one cannot notice if there is internet connection.

HOWTO: write programs (points to http://puppylinux.com/howto/programming.htm)

one image in localisation is linked to puppylinux.com

Keyboard shortcuts for International characters
cannot be found
file:///usr/share/doc/shortcutkeys.htm is missing.

I would wish a more prominent color for text highlighting.
otherways its superb.
cheers

[Ray MK]

Report Video 1.4 - Sat 27 Oct 2012 on RetroPrecise Puppy 5.4 - Linux 3.2.32 i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

Interesting - not sure if it’s because of the newer kernel or being non-pae - but this precise puppy seems much snappier than the standard pae version of precise. Also runs cooler and with less cpu activity - very nice.

JFYI - sys-info reports attacted.

[watchdog]

I have compiled a wl.ko for Broadcom Sta driver linux using a patch I found here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... er-947294/

I don't have tested it because I don't have the notebook with Broadcom wireless here. I use to load wl.ko by linux Sta on the fly by inserting in /root/Startup a file with a kind of content of the following type:

#!/bin/sh
rmmod b43
rmmod ssb
rmmod bcma
rmmod wl
modprobe lib80211
modprobe cfg80211
insmod /pathofnewwl/wl.ko

I loaded the wl.ko for test at:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9iMb4 ... TZEc3pZRjg

[slenkar]

after the layered file system was created,. I booted precise up again and the desktop is now just black with no icons, plz help

[peebee]

duplicate post - sorry

[peebee]

I have compiled a wl.ko for Broadcom Sta driver linux .....

Hi watchdog

Please have a look at:
Broadcom-STA "wl" wifi drivers - repository of latest

and http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=77 earlier in this thread from rerwin.

Cheers
peebee

[artsown]

slenkar .... When it does that select Menu - Shutdown - Restart X server.
The retro (non PAE) version doesn't have that bug.

Art

[Sky Aisling]

Artsown

How does a newbie tell if Precise version is *PAE* or *non-PAE*?

[rjbrewer]

Artsown

How does a newbie tell if Precise version is *PAE* or *non-PAE*?

Click on the "help" icon upper left.

Non-pae says "retro precise".

[Sky Aisling]

Sky Aisling wrote:
Artsown

How does a newbie tell if Precise version is *PAE* or *non-PAE*?

rjbrewer writes:

Click on the "help" icon upper left.

Non-pae says "retro precise".

I took my download from
http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20L ... elease.htm
Is that a PAE or non-PAE download?

Edit: the main download is PAE. But, I have to ask how does a Newbie know that? Or even know what PAE is? And, if she/he needs non-PAE download where is it found? I have to keep championing for the Newbie as so many new users of Puppy are coming aboard.
Edit: non-PAE download location: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=03066